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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 09:50:58
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I need the hydro copper as all my PCs are water cooled. I won't hold my breath though that I will be able to get one ever.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 10:47:46
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Okay but are those modded cards? I would like to know if there is a built in bios on one of the oc switches that exceeds 525 or whether we have to email kingpin to exceed that number
They havent been very forward with tdp which is disappointing as thats what you are really paying for. The only thing we heard official is that 850w is g2g which indicates to me that my thoughts are accurate
The ftw3 cards can already run l2n without issue. Yes the kp makes it easier due to its features, but 99% of the ppl that will buy this are concerned with better overclocks on water... that wont happen without more power budget
But 525 vs 450 should produce some good increase
This card will perform better than the FTW3 simply due to the binning of the GPU alone. This card will be the same kind that K|ngp|n uses, and they are heavily modded cards (all of them) compared to the FTW3. Again, 850w will be good for stock clocks, but not for much more. Most people buying these will have deep pockets, because this card is not going to come in cheap. It is built and meant for extreme overclocking and shooting for benchmarking records, and there will likely be a specific bios out there that removes all forms of protections and has a disclaimer that comes with it. That is something the FTW3 will never get. This card also typically has 3 bios positions, rather two, and one of them will help with water and ln2 overclocking. If 99% of people want to spend a few hundred extra dollars for a couple of benchmark points, feel free.. the card will likely perform better, but it isn't going to be a giant jump under standard water cooling. This card is meant for the cold, and will want to run as cold as possible. And yes, you would need K|ngp|n to get the bios, because they are not going to hand out a fully unlocked bios to everyone, and most EVGA employees won't have the experience that K|ngp|n has with these types of cards.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 11:22:06
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This card will perform better than the FTW3 simply due to the binning of the GPU alone. This card will be the same kind that K|ngp|n uses, and they are heavily modded cards (all of them) compared to the FTW3. Again, 850w will be good for stock clocks, but not for much more.
Most people buying these will have deep pockets, because this card is not going to come in cheap. It is built and meant for extreme overclocking and shooting for benchmarking records, and there will likely be a specific bios out there that removes all forms of protections and has a disclaimer that comes with it. That is something the FTW3 will never get. This card also typically has 3 bios positions, rather two, and one of them will help with water and ln2 overclocking.
If 99% of people want to spend a few hundred extra dollars for a couple of benchmark points, feel free.. the card will likely perform better, but it isn't going to be a giant jump under standard water cooling. This card is meant for the cold, and will want to run as cold as possible. And yes, you would need K|ngp|n to get the bios, because they are not going to hand out a fully unlocked bios to everyone, and most EVGA employees won't have the experience that K|ngp|n has with these types of cards.
Now that's telling it like it is.  All we need to know now is when is the KP waiting list going to be available. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 11:33:51
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It can't come soon enough! While i've managed to wait almost 3000 days(fitting to land on the 3000 series too) for a GPU upgrade the last month or two here has me chomping at the bit lol. Super excited and really hoping to have Cart/Queue/Buying RNG to get one
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 11:57:59
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the_Scarlet_one
This card will perform better than the FTW3 simply due to the binning of the GPU alone. This card will be the same kind that K|ngp|n uses, and they are heavily modded cards (all of them) compared to the FTW3. Again, 850w will be good for stock clocks, but not for much more.
Most people buying these will have deep pockets, because this card is not going to come in cheap. It is built and meant for extreme overclocking and shooting for benchmarking records, and there will likely be a specific bios out there that removes all forms of protections and has a disclaimer that comes with it. That is something the FTW3 will never get. This card also typically has 3 bios positions, rather two, and one of them will help with water and ln2 overclocking.
If 99% of people want to spend a few hundred extra dollars for a couple of benchmark points, feel free.. the card will likely perform better, but it isn't going to be a giant jump under standard water cooling. This card is meant for the cold, and will want to run as cold as possible. And yes, you would need K|ngp|n to get the bios, because they are not going to hand out a fully unlocked bios to everyone, and most EVGA employees won't have the experience that K|ngp|n has with these types of cards.
Now that's telling it like it is.
All we need to know now is when is the KP waiting list going to be available.
Funny, the next EVGA website crash is going to be caused by people trying to be waitlisted...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 12:14:41
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Waiting for the 3090 Kingpin, i hope i can get it in the launch day.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 12:18:15
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For the 2080 KPE, initial launch was reserved for only Elite Members, I wonder if that's going to be the same case........ Which would suck.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 12:33:26
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Hopefully we get a date/time in advance and it just doesnt randomly go up.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 13:18:46
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Please let me buy oneeeeeeeeeeee i cant stand my stupid 3090 strix oc anymore with its stupid buzzing sound and high temps.......
TAKE MY MONEY
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 13:41:36
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If history on the kingpin cards is repeated, the stock bios will limit power, but the XOC bios will remove the limit.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 14:53:21
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How will this compare to the HYDRO COPPER?
Thanks!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 14:58:32
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How will this compare to the HYDRO COPPER?
Thanks!
Well, there will be a Kingpin HydroCopper variant. Are you interested in how this would compare to the 3090 FTW3 HydroCopper? HydroCopper is EVGA's name for their waterblocks, you can have HydroCoppers with different GPU models.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 14:59:36
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How will this compare to the HYDRO COPPER?
Thanks!
It comes in HC and Hybrid (360mm AIO) Either or.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 15:00:47
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SingleLukeReflex
How will this compare to the HYDRO COPPER?
Thanks!
The KP will always be a step above all other part#'s as it is the top binned chip. The whole card is more robust and is not really meant to just be plugged into a gaming system as eye candy. Imagine having a Lambo that stays in a 35mph zone. If you really want to open this thing up the water block has to come off anyway.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 15:20:03
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Ah well. In Europe we're still waiting to see the regular models. Would love to have a chance at the KPE Hydro Copper though... =)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 15:52:21
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Did the elite members really get first dibs at 2080kingpins? And if so how?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 16:29:13
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This card will perform better than the FTW3 simply due to the binning of the GPU alone. This card will be the same kind that K|ngp|n uses, and they are heavily modded cards (all of them) compared to the FTW3. Again, 850w will be good for stock clocks, but not for much more.
Has EVGA ever actually said what "binning" means? For all we know it's some half-assed process of setting the clock to something easy like 2100Mhz and then running a 30 second power virus and saying "ok it's good....ship it". Only Nvidia (via Samsung who is presumably doing their wafer sorts) would have true leakage and silicon speed data. Without ever packaging the silicon you can predict which chips are going to be god overclockers (at least for Intel..it's probably the same for every fab) . Is that data being passed on to EVGA? I don't think so. It's one of those things where I feel like they intentionally are vague so then they hope people will make stuff up like "oh it's the highest binned 9000Mhz capable GPU's". My reaction is frankly if these GPUs are so hardcore 1337 whatever then why do they sell them with air coolers to begin with....toss that garbage away and lower the price $100.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 16:35:50
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Did the elite members really get first dibs at 2080kingpins? And if so how?
You needed to be an Elite Level Member to buy one at launch. Couldn't add to cart otherwise. Can't remember how long it lasted but, it was more than a day.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 16:40:32
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Did the elite members really get first dibs at 2080kingpins? And if so how?
You needed to be an Elite Level Member to buy one at launch. Couldn't add to cart otherwise. Can't remember how long it lasted but, it was more than a day.
how do you become an elite member??
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 16:40:58
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 16:52:44
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Did the elite members really get first dibs at 2080kingpins? And if so how?
You needed to be an Elite Level Member to buy one at launch. Couldn't add to cart otherwise. Can't remember how long it lasted but, it was more than a day.
how do you become an elite member??
Either buying and registering pretty much any EVGA GPU, or a combination of other options, like buying and registering two separate components or xxx amount of posts to the forums, etc... Full list here: evga.com/member/elite/
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 18:01:00
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 18:35:06
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The Kingpin is a sexy card. But, in my hands, its power is likely wasted.
You have sex with video cards? Might want to look up the meaning of sexy, and in a real dictionary, not urban dictionary.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 19:02:46
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You guys think they will do Elite members only for the KPE this time around? I hope they do that with the notify me Q. They did do it for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. It was elite member only link for about 30 minutes that basically nobody knew about.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 19:25:57
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1 year and 3,000 dollars later... 1 year because it will take that long to get one.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 20:03:17
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You guys think they will do Elite members only for the KPE this time around? I hope they do that with the notify me Q. They did do it for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. It was elite member only link for about 30 minutes that basically nobody knew about.
I'm an elite member, or at least I think I am, and I didn't get any notification.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 22:33:21
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You guys think they will do Elite members only for the KPE this time around? I hope they do that with the notify me Q. They did do it for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. It was elite member only link for about 30 minutes that basically nobody knew about.
I don't know but I hope they do something like that. Or head-start for previous KPE owners or something... whatever the case, I don't want this to be another FTW3 Ultra waiting-list queue. I am a little fed up with waiting lists and queues at this point... just want to buy the damn card, and soon!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/02 23:13:44
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/03 06:16:02
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Looking super hot! Hopefully a December launch?
Let the 6900 XT Release first so that the demand will be less for the 3090's.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/03 07:23:32
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Looking super hot! Hopefully a December launch?
Let the 6900 XT Release first so that the demand will be less for the 3090's.
We may get surprised with a mid November launch with the Hydro version following perhaps. I really hope that EVGAs allows Elite members or owners who have multiple Kingpin cards registered get first crack at buying one.
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