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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Where will we find the notify? Will it be in its own section or do we have to go through the Elite member interface?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 11:26:29
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what did you post? website or image?
Went to the link you posted and copied Just the Image.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Aquacomputer has a heatpipe leading to the water-part:  Watercool's also supposed to somewhat "actively" cool the backside. Couldn't figure out how OptimusPC's has done it. Huge disappointment if the HC Kingpin won't have something like that. Edit: from the GN video I take Optimus' backplate is not actively cooled.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Aquacomputer has a heatpipe leading to the water-part:
Watercool's also supposed to somewhat "actively" cool the backside. Couldn't figure out how OptimusPC's has done it.
From what we've seen of the optimus block on Gamers Nexus video they just have a big thermal pad and a thick, barely-finned backplate.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Not to go too off-topic here, but if you had the choice of your card being delivered in 2020 or 2021, which would you pick?
Is this a rhetorical question? I mean really...
Lol, yes. Just riffing off the 2020 is a dumpster fire vibe the thread had for 2 minutes. Answers will not affect our shipping schedule.
LOL I hear you. But if 2020 was a dumpster fire, let’s hope 2021 isn’t a landfill fire.
Either way, we can always commemorate 2020 with one of these: https://www.tyotoys.com/products/dumpster-fire-tealight-metal?variant=29536840155234
Of course it's sold out too 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 11:38:17
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Aquacomputer has a heatpipe leading to the water-part:
Watercool's also supposed to somewhat "actively" cool the backside. Couldn't figure out how OptimusPC's has done it.
From what we've seen of the optimus block on Gamers Nexus video they just have a big thermal pad and a thick, barely-finned backplate.
And the Optimus plate is a pretty decent chunk of metal, supposed to provide additional rigidity: 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 11:46:28
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I don't really care about "additional" rigidity - the blocks & backplates I had from WC were rock-hard so to say with no room for flexibility for the card at all. It's cooling of VRM and RAM on the backside that really counts in my very humble opinion.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 11:57:09
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I don't really care about "additional" rigidity - the blocks & backplates I had from WC were rock-hard so to say with no room for flexibility for the card at all. It's cooling of VRM and RAM on the backside that really counts in my very humble opinion.
Have there been previous recent GPUs with RAM and VRMs on the backside that would have benefitted from additional active cooling? I thought the 3090 series was the only contemporary card to have them. I hadn't seem to much on the benefits of additional cooling on the back, at least in what I've seen so far. I agree it gets pretty hot on the backside, but wasn't sure what the performance gains would be.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 12:14:24
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I'd rather pay the $2,000 to $2,200 for a K|ngP|N rather than $2500 on ebay for a ftw3 or ROG STRIX.
Last generation 2080ti:
Nvidia's Price - $1,200
FTW3 Ultra Hybrid - $1,500
K|ngP|N - $1,800 or so I've heard
This generation 3090:
Nvidia's Price - $1,500
FTW3 Ultra Hybrid - $1,800
K|ngP|N - My guess is $2,100 if that trend follows, but probably somewhere between $2,000 and $2,200. Guess we'll find out Friday at 6am PT.
Last generation: 2080 ti kingpin $1899. From the looks of this image the product was available 1st to elite members exclusively on the product page, not the elite member page. So get your F5 button lubed up and ready on the 3090 product line. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Any one seen better images of the HC KP card? I don't care for the LCD and other "features" of the hybrid". I just want a top quality full water block card for my custom loop.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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I didn't mind the "flip up" display feature until I saw the backplate. It seems ugly and cheap. Now I think the backplate is ugly and cheap because some of the cost got diverted to the flip up display.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Any one seen better images of the HC KP card? I don't care for the LCD and other "features" of the hybrid". I just want a top quality full water block card for my custom loop.
Not much out there besides what's on the news page. There might be more production phots as the release for HCs gets closer in December. I don't think the EVGA HC blocks are necessarily considered "top quality" when compared to the other watercooling manufacturers (Watercool, EKWB), but they are good blocks that get the job done.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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I noticed at the top left of my core it has a black marker dash
Is this an indication of the bin? I've heard of various colors and seen purple markings on most cards. do they just separate the cards with the 3 colors and divide the bin that way?
Will all the kingpins be black marked bins?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 13:31:56
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Aquacomputer has a heatpipe leading to the water-part:
Watercool's also supposed to somewhat "actively" cool the backside. Couldn't figure out how OptimusPC's has done it. Huge disappointment if the HC Kingpin won't have something like that.
Edit: from the GN video I take Optimus' backplate is not actively cooled.
At extreme power loads, you'll need below ambient cooling, not extreme water setups using ambient air. Vince made a heater backing plate for LN2. Jason(Jayz) mounted individual custom heatsinks on his 3090s, but he was only doing chill water with AC air in bench testing. IMHO, active cooling the backplate is deminishing returns since you won't be daily driving the card temps below dew point for any substantial gain. Airflow across the card would suffice for daily use. Is the real-world fps gain worth the effort for a daily gamer card? But it does look cool and sometimes, that's the only reason you need. I plead guilty, myself. xDev provided a lab benchtest boost chart for the 2080ti KPE: (Credit: Tin/Kingpin)  Steve at GN made his own for the 3090 using LN2 to chart the boost table. I expect the KPE to be at least $2199.99.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 13:34:03
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This mp5works is the only active water cooling backplate attachment that I have found so far that will fit various graphics cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9r0jC6yzo
I feel like this is going to destroy my water flow and I would be better off getting a small pump and radiator.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 13:42:36
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This mp5works is the only active water cooling backplate attachment that I have found so far that will fit various graphics cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9r0jC6yzo
I feel like this is going to destroy my water flow and I would be better off getting a small pump and radiator.
It's meant to be used in parallel with that said, I ordered one and plan to use it separately. Since im getting a core p7, i will have all the space in the world so I'm going to get it on its own mini loop with a spare 120mm rad and fan. Spare parts so no extra expense there. The pump on the other hand.... I have 2 pumps one for cpu loop and one for gpu loop... so unless i piggyback off one of those.. Does it deserve it's own pump? thats a lot of money invested on such a tiny backplate cooler
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 13:50:03
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This mp5works is the only active water cooling backplate attachment that I have found so far that will fit various graphics cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9r0jC6yzo
I feel like this is going to destroy my water flow and I would be better off getting a small pump and radiator.
It's meant to be used in parallel
with that said, I ordered one and plan to use it separately. Since im getting a core p7, i will have all the space in the world so I'm going to get it on its own mini loop with a spare 120mm rad and fan. Spare parts so no extra expense there.
The pump on the other hand.... I have 2 pumps one for cpu loop and one for gpu loop... so unless i piggyback off one of those..
Does it deserve it's own pump? thats a lot of money invested on such a tiny backplate cooler
Depends on what your CPU and GPU blocks are. I had a Heatkiller CPU block and it was fairly restrictive, the 2080 Ti KPE Hydrocopper block on the other hand was pretty free flowing. So if the block design is similar to the 20 series, I would think it would be fine in the loop with the GPU. I'd say that's a better choice in terms of thermal balancing as well. Keep the CPU heat in the CPU loop and the GPU heat in the GPU loop.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 13:50:55
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This mp5works is the only active water cooling backplate attachment that I have found so far that will fit various graphics cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9r0jC6yzo
I feel like this is going to destroy my water flow and I would be better off getting a small pump and radiator.
It's meant to be used in parallel
with that said, I ordered one and plan to use it separately. Since im getting a core p7, i will have all the space in the world so I'm going to get it on its own mini loop with a spare 120mm rad and fan. Spare parts so no extra expense there.
The pump on the other hand.... I have 2 pumps one for cpu loop and one for gpu loop... so unless i piggyback off one of those..
Does it deserve it's own pump? thats a lot of money invested on such a tiny backplate cooler
All that matters is you like it. The normal computer user would think we're crazy to buy a +$2000 video card. Don't think... no regrets.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 13:53:34
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Could always just pop a bunch of copper heatsinks on the back plate using adhesive thermal padding.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:06:39
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:10:30
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Here is an in depth Video from Frame Chasers on the results from the mp5works detailing the installation and temperature results.
https://www.youtube.com/w...feature=emb_logo
Opened link in new tab. Saw the video was 30 MINUTES LONG. Closed tab. Dude talks WAY too much, even for a detailed vid.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:16:18
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Here is an in depth Video from Frame Chasers on the results from the mp5works detailing the installation and temperature results.
https://www.youtube.com/w...feature=emb_logo
Opened link in new tab. Saw the video was 30 MINUTES LONG. Closed tab. Dude talks WAY too much, even for a detailed vid.
Didn't you watch it all the way through? It is very informative for those that are interested in actively cooling a graphics card backplate.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:16:44
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hallowen
Here is an in depth Video from Frame Chasers on the results from the mp5works detailing the installation and temperature results.
https://www.youtube.com/w...feature=emb_logo
Opened link in new tab. Saw the video was 30 MINUTES LONG. Closed tab. Dude talks WAY too much, even for a detailed vid.
My take from skipping through it: He tested it on a 3080. Cools the backplate (almost the same as some fans directed toward the backplate), but no performance benefits. Talked about testing it on a 3090, don't want to dig through to see if he followed up.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:20:20
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Could always just pop a bunch of copper heatsinks on the back plate using adhesive thermal padding.
I'm with you! While I'm sure water cooling on the back-side of the card doesn't hurt, is the backplate really a limiting factor when it comes to cooling/over-clocking a card? I'm not saying it isn't, but I'd like more evidence before spending money on something that might be more of a placebo effect, especially when it's cheap to add passive heat-sinks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:22:12
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Here is an in depth Video from Frame Chasers on the results from the mp5works detailing the installation and temperature results.
https://www.youtube.com/w...feature=emb_logo
Opened link in new tab. Saw the video was 30 MINUTES LONG. Closed tab. Dude talks WAY too much, even for a detailed vid.
Didn't you watch it all the way through? It is very informative for those that are interested in actively cooling a graphics card backplate.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:24:05
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he has a followup video using an alphacool backplate since the backplate you use is very important. you need good heat transfer for the water to do its job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRZR33WYWrM its a lot shorter
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/11/19 14:24:29
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I can tell you right now that if anyone were to use a Water Chiller along with that cooler, You would definitely see temperature and performance changes, But then I guess I'll have to be one of the few that will even attempt to. 
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