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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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I think for limited quantity cards like the KPE, EVGA should have required a no-resale for 90 or 180 days clause. At least that way you could have had eBay and other markets delete the ads. Scalping may not be illegal. But doesn't mean you should make it easy to scalp.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 10:53:20
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How does EVGA enforce this if you have an eBay account? They would have to hope that someone buys the card and reports the serial number? Just trying to think about enforcement of this. How do you stop this on facebook marketplace? If someone wants to be deceptive they will and still scalp. No, I am not a scalper just interested in the philosophy of this issue
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 10:56:30
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testingtesting007 classified tool!! http://www.mediafire.com/...ds/Classified.zip/file Havent tried it yet since i am still waiting for my card :(
That is good news. Hopefully we will see some folks lucky enough to have secured a Kingpin start to use it and show us what these cards can do!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:06:03
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The-phantom
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fragility_V1 This is getting out of hand....
https://www.ebay.com/sch/micah.sells.stuff/m.html?item=203205116455&hash=item2f4ff80227%3Ag%3AEiwAAOSwJiBfxtBn&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
And I think there was one posted (and sold) earlier for $5K...
I have called and filed a report on Ebay about this scalper price gouging this item for three times the MSRP. They probably won't remove this auction, But at least this practice by this seller has been documented.
This scalper rage is beyond annoying at this point. From facebook to discord groups. Leave it alone. The complainers are worse than the scalpers. It's a free market, you can buy and sell things at whatever price you wish. Are you going to go report all the sporting goods, in demand exotic cars, etc for charging more than their msrp. You can sell anything at any price, buyers can simply ignore it. Never seen a group of people so immature and not with reality.
Scalping is utterly wrong and there is nothing wrong about being mad at those scalpers. GPUs are an entertainment product for most of us that’s why you get the mentality of “he bought it he can sell it for whatever price he wants” which is utterly wrong. What they are doing is artificially increasing the demand way beyond the supply to scam people who wants to get the product faster. As I said it’s an entertainment item that’s why you don’t see how harmful this practice is really. Imagine scalpers buying insulins from all pharmacies and hospitals can’t keep up with diabetes patients, so if they want to get their medicine they have to pay a scalper’s price which the scalper didn’t do anything to produce the medicine and he is only scamming a person that needs the product. But but but the scalper bought most of the medicines available by his own money, he should be able to sell it for whatever price he wants 😑
So scalping necessities is one thing and also potentially illegal. Scalping non essentials etc is a totally different ball game. Those who complain about scalping on a gpu, need more experience in other markets in for sure.
Scalping Broadway & concert tickets in NYC is illegal. Don't see how that's considered a necessity... although Broadway has been shut down for months.
If this person is defending the dishonorable practice of price gouging then perhaps they are involved.
Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:09:40
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That last post on the PC format (as opposed to mobile) looked like an old Tempest screenshot but with vitriol in the middle. Am I showing my age?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:10:05
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xantos20 How does EVGA enforce this if you have an eBay account? They would have to hope that someone buys the card and reports the serial number? Just trying to think about enforcement of this. How do you stop this on facebook marketplace? If someone wants to be deceptive they will and still scalp. No, I am not a scalper just interested in the philosophy of this issue
Right now if you report an eBay auction for the KingPin, eBay won't do anything. Because no rules are being broken. But if you report a listing for a product that is not allowed to be resold, eBay can delete the listing. Furthermore, I think EVGA could make items like this have a non-transferrable warranty, and can only be registered to the email account used for the notify. So any scalpers trying to sell it are selling a card with 0 warranty on it, which greatly reduces its value.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:15:55
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If one were to speculate it looks like they can do 2550-2600 ish with mem offset of +800 to +1200 and with Vince unable to beat OGS's (off the shelf Strix) even with his freshly binned KPE which must I remind you he gets the pick of the litter.... In before someone says, Vince just pulled a random card to bench. NOPE you are mislead if this is your belief... What a waist of time and resources that strategy would yield...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:18:51
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H is that fair for the consumer who is willing to pay more then MSRP for a limited availability item? Scalpers will just put on Craigslist or Facebook marketplace though, my point is that you will not stop it just make them have to work harder. The warranty thing would work but that’s pretty draconian for the consumer too. Oh well, it’s always fun to play armchair quarterback back but I bet the market rules for gpus stay Laissez-fair
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:43:21
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So speaking of selling. My KP Hybrid shows up tomorrow. What I really want is the HC KP card because I already have a custom twin 360 rad setup in an O11 XL. Assuming I get on the HC KP list when available, do you peeps think I would be able to get my 2.1k (with tax) back on the Hybrid by selling it used? I know Optimus said they will make a water block but who really knows if/when. Because I have a darn o11 xl EK distribution plate in front, I'm going to have to be creative to get the AIO 360 rad to fit somewhere.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 11:53:24
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DarkClownX1X So speaking of selling. My KP Hybrid shows up tomorrow. What I really want is the HC KP card because I already have a custom twin 360 rad setup in an O11 XL. Assuming I get on the HC KP list when available, do you peeps think I would be able to get my 2.1k (with tax) back on the Hybrid by selling it used? I know Optimus said they will make a water block but who really knows if/when. Because I have a darn o11 xl EK distribution plate in front, I'm going to have to be creative to get the AIO 360 rad to fit somewhere.
It's tough to say, but remember that eBay and PayPal take a combined 13 percent of your sale price, so you would need to add that onto your listing price to cover your costs.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:25:10
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NICROD 11/20/2020 6:00:39 AM PT Yes Order placed
When did you get your e-mail to place the order?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:30:17
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NICROD 24G-P5-3998-KR11/20/2020 6:00:39 AM PT Yes Order placed
Nice! Gratz dude!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:32:18
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I also got mine. E-mail was sent to me at 1:20 cst.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:34:52
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It sounds like it was an email dump at 2:20 PM EST. Likely means that's all for today.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:35:26
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Sajin I also got mine. E-mail was sent to me at 1:20 cst.
Yay! Gratz to you too! Wow I wasn't expecting any more this week after what Jacob said. What a troll, lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:40:41
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Sajin I also got mine. E-mail was sent to me at 1:20 cst.
Yay! Gratz to you too! Wow I wasn't expecting any more this week after what Jacob said. What a troll, lol.
Thanks. Yeah, I wasn't expecting it either.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 12:55:01
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I see the classified utility is out in the open, what about the XOC bios. The 520w Limit is a wall. Yes I know you could just shunt mod it, But I would like to keep if factory.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 13:08:23
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creekthagray I see the classified utility is out in the open, what about the XOC bios. The 520w Limit is a wall. Yes I know you could just shunt mod it, But I would like to keep if factory.
You're not hitting thermal issues with the voltages that would get you over 520w on the stock cooler? Unless you just meant not shunt modding it when you said factory and you're using other cooling solutions now. I just want you to upload your second video so I can see how you hit the wall and the 2190 that some of the others are having trouble with
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 13:11:50
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The video is almost complete. should be up today. my max clock on my top score was 2,190 MHz at the start. didn't even think that would be a wall.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 13:18:07
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Well when I was watching the KP video with Jay and Vince, Jay hit 2190 and Vince hit 2205 before they moved to LN2 and the 1000w bios I believe. So you're right up there with them on stock cooler. And awesome about the video!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 13:36:44
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I would like to see this 3090 in its bday suit? Or just without the backplate if someone would be so kind?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 13:40:28
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Zeddivile I would like to see this 3090 in its bday suit? Or just without the backplate if someone would be so kind?
I’d just like to see this card on my doorstep before my birthday. 11 days and counting! 🎁
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 13:47:43
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NICROD 24G-P5-3998-KR11/20/2020 6:00:39 AM PT Yes Order placed
Nice! Hope you crush some timespy scores!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 14:00:57
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What’s the queue looking like ? I’m at 6:00:48
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 14:07:44
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HaruTachibana What’s the queue looking like ? I’m at 6:00:48
Here is the latest for what I have: K|NGP|N Queue Tranche #1 - Google Sheets I will add you to the sheet now. Congratulations on your F5 finger...it is clearly talented.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 14:34:15
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Still no availability? Good lord...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 15:07:34
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tyhanson Still no availability? Good lord...
It’s pretty widely known at this point that auto-notify won’t be available again before 12/15.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon
2020/12/02 15:27:39
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NICROD 24G-P5-3998-KR11/20/2020 6:00:39 AM PT Yes Order placed
Nice! Hope you crush some timespy scores!
I was sent an email on this too. I passed on buying it since the KP is almost here.
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