fragility_V1
This is getting out of hand....
 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/micah.sells.stuff/m.html?item=203205116455&hash=item2f4ff80227%3Ag%3AEiwAAOSwJiBfxtBn&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
 
And I think there was one posted (and sold) earlier for $5K...

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee, who tf even pays that much for something that will eventually be in stock for MSRP?

Sort of bummed. Got mine, but like a lot of the ftw3 ultra cards it seems to be locked at 450W or less. I can set all the settings right, but it vOP/vREL right before going over 450w. Not sure if anyone else has the same issue or a solution?
 
I guess I have a little over a week to see if a solution pops up. I'm not going through this again with another card. The FTW3 Ultra still doesn't have a solution, and I have one of those with OCing issues as well.
 
My Port Royal scores are where I was at with the FTW3 Ultra card. It's like they are ALL hitting the same bottleneck. I've had them all in both my 10900k and 5950x setups and same issue.

JZegers
What are the power draws looking like?  Another guy had that issue and he did clean driver uninstall to fix it.  In GPU-Z is it showing the max power 450 while on all bioses?

yeah, I tried DDU a single time. Then I tried it double times. Then I just did it a bunch of times in a row for the hell of it. nada.
 
I'm not seeing any performance differences between normal and OC toggle modes. I haven't messed with LN2.

QueueCumber

JZegers
What are the power draws looking like?  Another guy had that issue and he did clean driver uninstall to fix it.  In GPU-Z is it showing the max power 450 while on all bioses?

yeah, I tried DDU a single time. Then I tried it double times. Then I just did it a bunch of times in a row for the hell of it. nada.
 
I'm not seeing any performance differences between normal and OC toggle modes. I haven't messed with LN2.

I asked Jacob on Twitter if it was safe to use the LN2 BIOS switch on the stock AIO cooler, and he said that it was safe. So I would go ahead and try that BIOS and see if you get a higher power draw. It sounds like you don’t have anything to lose.

Nereus
 
After DDU I went into regedit and got rid of anything from NVidia.. DDU didn't get everything. I also did the same with EVGA Precision, then installed fresh.
 
 

What scores were you getting in Port Royal after that?

jspataro99

QueueCumber

JZegers
What are the power draws looking like?  Another guy had that issue and he did clean driver uninstall to fix it.  In GPU-Z is it showing the max power 450 while on all bioses?

yeah, I tried DDU a single time. Then I tried it double times. Then I just did it a bunch of times in a row for the hell of it. nada.
 
I'm not seeing any performance differences between normal and OC toggle modes. I haven't messed with LN2.

I asked Jacob on Twitter if it was safe to use the LN2 BIOS switch on the stock AIO cooler, and he said that it was safe. So I would go ahead and try that BIOS and see if you get a higher power draw. It sounds like you don’t have anything to lose.

Hah, very good point. True. Will do that.

Sajin
Normal is 430, oc is 450 & ln2 is 520w.

These seem weird.  Feels like it should be 450 normal, 500 OC, like 1k LN2 by default.

JZegers

Sajin
Normal is 430, oc is 450 & ln2 is 520w.

These seem weird.  Feels like it should be 450 normal, 500 OC, like 1k LN2 by default.

Agreed. LN2 bios should be fully unlocked. Why else do a promotion stream if the power limit being used isn't the same on consumer cards? Jay and Steve were hitting 700w peak at full pot.

Still waiting for Jacob to inform us on how to get the updated classified tool and 2000w xoc vbios.

According to JC's youtube video the normal bios is 450W, OC bios is 480W & LN2 bios is 520W.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuNTUvO6dl0&ab_channel=JCAnything
 

What's funny is that it says my max is 520w on GPU-Z. It just acts like the FTW3 Ultras and doesn't allow the power to be utilized any further. 
 

Nereus
 
Still crap, but the problem is thermal throttling for me - need a water block. The extra wattage made very little difference, although I have had little time to play around with a lot of different settings, but I was able to get a peak 508W according to GPU-Z when running Furmark. I was only hitting just over 13,900 on Port Royal and I saw someone with the same specs (same CPU, ram and GPU) and same clocks as me hitting 14,900, the only difference was their average temperature was a lot lower (they showed 44, mine showed 60). It seems thermal throttling is really really heavy on these cards.
 

That is a fairly low score for Port Royal with a 3090. That is a stock 3090 score basically. I was getting 14k-14.8k in Port Royal with air cooling. Something is very odd here with the way these cards fall off in power across the board in ALL their models.
 
I'm sort of done. I put in a pre-order for an Asus Strix OC. I'll wait a couple of days, but I have an EVGA Dark Kingpin to return as well and that arrived a few days earlier, so I can't wait too long. Not getting stuck with half-functioning gear. My goal was to set the Kingpin stuff up into a hardcore water cooling setup, but I am afraid to take the risk at this point. Obviously, if this issue is in every 3-dongle card they make, it won't matter what cooling I put on it, since heat isn't even an issue here in my setup at the moment.
 
I'm a bit disappointed, but I believe the same issue(s) occurring between these different Evga cards is finally answering my question as to whether I should cut my losses and move to a different company's card for going forward with a more extreme water cooling setup.
 

Wow. I was going to jump on one but now probably not.

QueueCumber

Nereus
 
Still crap, but the problem is thermal throttling for me - need a water block. The extra wattage made very little difference, although I have had little time to play around with a lot of different settings, but I was able to get a peak 508W according to GPU-Z when running Furmark. I was only hitting just over 13,900 on Port Royal and I saw someone with the same specs (same CPU, ram and GPU) and same clocks as me hitting 14,900, the only difference was their average temperature was a lot lower (they showed 44, mine showed 60). It seems thermal throttling is really really heavy on these cards.
 

That is a fairly low score for Port Royal with a 3090. That is a stock 3090 score basically. I was getting 14k-14.8k in Port Royal with air cooling. Something is very odd here with the way these cards fall off in power across the board in ALL their models.
 
I'm sort of done. I put in a pre-order for an Asus Strix OC. I'll wait a couple of days, but I have an EVGA Dark Kingpin to return as well and that arrived a few days earlier, so I can't wait too long. Not getting stuck with half-functioning gear. My goal was to set the Kingpin stuff up into a hardcore water cooling setup, but I am afraid to take the risk at this point. Obviously, if this issue is in every 3-dongle card they make, it won't matter what cooling I put on it, since heat isn't even an issue here in my setup at the moment.
 
I'm a bit disappointed, but I believe the same issue(s) occurring between these different Evga cards is finally answering my question as to whether I should cut my losses and move to a different company's card for going forward with a more extreme water cooling setup.
 

I have had both 3090 FE and Strix. Was so excited when got my Strix but it was way way louder and ran about 10 degrees hotter than my FE. It barely could do 14k in PR and I can do 14k with my FE too so ended up getting rid of Strix and keeping my FE I was excited for KPE hoping I can push 3090 further while staying cool and quiet but these initial results are so disappointing

QueueCumber

Nereus
 
Still crap, but the problem is thermal throttling for me - need a water block. The extra wattage made very little difference, although I have had little time to play around with a lot of different settings, but I was able to get a peak 508W according to GPU-Z when running Furmark. I was only hitting just over 13,900 on Port Royal and I saw someone with the same specs (same CPU, ram and GPU) and same clocks as me hitting 14,900, the only difference was their average temperature was a lot lower (they showed 44, mine showed 60). It seems thermal throttling is really really heavy on these cards.
 

That is a fairly low score for Port Royal with a 3090. That is a stock 3090 score basically. I was getting 14k-14.8k in Port Royal with air cooling. Something is very odd here with the way these cards fall off in power across the board in ALL their models.
 
I'm sort of done. I put in a pre-order for an Asus Strix OC. I'll wait a couple of days, but I have an EVGA Dark Kingpin to return as well and that arrived a few days earlier, so I can't wait too long. Not getting stuck with half-functioning gear. My goal was to set the Kingpin stuff up into a hardcore water cooling setup, but I am afraid to take the risk at this point. Obviously, if this issue is in every 3-dongle card they make, it won't matter what cooling I put on it, since heat isn't even an issue here in my setup at the moment.
 
I'm a bit disappointed, but I believe the same issue(s) occurring between these different Evga cards is finally answering my question as to whether I should cut my losses and move to a different company's card for going forward with a more extreme water cooling setup.
 

Was your 14826 PR score with the KPE or your FTW3 Ultra? (I’m assuming FTW3 Ultra but was just curious).