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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:26:46 (permalink)
I wonder how many people who got the 3090 FTW3 are mad about this being $200 more? Don't get me wrong, the the FTW3 looks amazing. 
 
Side note: You think these are some sort of caps? Right above the OLED screen. 
 

 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:29:16 (permalink)
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I wonder how many people who got the 3090 FTW3 are mad about this being $200 more? Don't get me wrong, the the FTW3 looks amazing. 
 
Side note: You think these are some sort of caps? Right above the OLED screen. 
 

 


Those aren't caps they are switches. =)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:48:28 (permalink)
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I wonder how many people who got the 3090 FTW3 are mad about this being $200 more? Don't get me wrong, the the FTW3 looks amazing. 
 
Side note: You think these are some sort of caps? Right above the OLED screen. 
 

 


Those aren't caps they are switches. =)

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:49:13 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Is the Corsair 1000D the only case that could handle two of these cards?

Mountain Mods would cover those no worries, plus another triple for the CPU.

 



MM case, sadly, won't mount it.

Jacob said the lines are 200mm long (7.8 inches - I think shorter than the actual card) and you need at least 2 more inches to reach the front of the case  on the side closest to the MB - left in the above pic (rear MB side doesn't support 3x120 in any configuration).

I swear, they (EVGA) cheap out on the dumbest things (rad line length). I don't think this card (or rather the radiator) would be mountable in anything other than a smaller mid-size tower or below, maybe.

I'm bummed because I was planning to get one tomorrow, but the lines just aren't long enough to fit my case.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:51:44 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Is the Corsair 1000D the only case that could handle two of these cards?


Some of the EATX Caselabs cases would easily fit two of those.
 
Edit: EATX

I know, my STH-10 could easily fit 5, and even that isn’t nearly at capacity. With my PSU taking up some space in the bottom, I can easily fit 3x480x120x80mm rads + 1x360x120x80mm rad + 1x420x140x80mm rad. Sadly, caselabs is no more :(
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:52:21 (permalink)
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200mm


Uh...isn't that...shorter than the actual card? How is that supposed to be mountable in...well...most cases?

Between this and the anti-sag brackets I'm starting to think your engineers assume everyone has micro-atx cases or something.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:53:09 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Is the Corsair 1000D the only case that could handle two of these cards?




Technically speaking my case could, but one of the rads would have to be mounted in the front "leads to nowhere" mount area Thermaltake put in the case.
 
Why would you ever go SLi of these when SLi is barely supported at all anymore though, unless it's for workstation/work purposes.
 
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200mm


Uh...isn't that...shorter than the actual card? How is that supposed to be mountable in...well...most cases?

Between this and the anti-sag brackets I'm starting to think your engineers assume everyone has micro-atx cases or something.


 
If you're asking the actual tube length, it's almost always 400mm, that's what it is for the regular 3090/3080 Hybrid kits with the 240mm radiators.  

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:53:48 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Is the Corsair 1000D the only case that could handle two of these cards?

Mountain Mods would cover those no worries, plus another triple for the CPU.

 



MM case, sadly, won't mount it.

Jacob said the lines are 200mm long (7.8 inches - I think shorter than the actual card) and you need at least 2 more inches to reach the front of the case  on the side closest to the MB - left in the above pic (rear MB side doesn't support 3x120 in any configuration).

I swear, they (EVGA) cheap out on the dumbest things (rad line length). I don't think this card (or rather the radiator) would be mountable in anything other than a smaller mid-size tower or below, maybe.

I'm bummed because I was planning to get one tomorrow, but the lines just aren't long enough to fit my case.

Wow I thought they were supposed to be 400mm long, 200mm is very short indeed.




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 20:55:41 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Is the Corsair 1000D the only case that could handle two of these cards?

Mountain Mods would cover those no worries, plus another triple for the CPU.

 



MM case, sadly, won't mount it.

Jacob said the lines are 200mm long (7.8 inches - I think shorter than the actual card) and you need at least 2 more inches to reach the front of the case  on the side closest to the MB - left in the above pic (rear MB side doesn't support 3x120 in any configuration).

I swear, they (EVGA) cheap out on the dumbest things (rad line length). I don't think this card (or rather the radiator) would be mountable in anything other than a smaller mid-size tower or below, maybe.

I'm bummed because I was planning to get one tomorrow, but the lines just aren't long enough to fit my case.

Wow I thought they were supposed to be 400mm long, 200mm is very short indeed.



 
Pretty sure that was a mistype, has to be 400mm, just based on the Kingpin picture.  Every 240/280/360 radiator AIO out there (with a few exceptions) has 350-400mm tubing, especially Asetek units, which I believe this still is.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:09:53 (permalink)
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The kingpin is priced really well! Why did I even get a ftw3ultra haha...


I know right, I'm surprised it's that low.



It does, doesn't it.  Part of me wonders how the 6900XT will face off against the best of the 3090s.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:17:31 (permalink)
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The kingpin is priced really well! Why did I even get a ftw3ultra haha...


I know right, I'm surprised it's that low.



It does, doesn't it.  Part of me wonders how the 6900XT will face off against the best of the 3090s.


It won't the 3090 KP will dominate as it did before. Plus what I've seen so far the 6800 series can't ray trace for crap.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:17:48 (permalink)
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Pretty sure that was a mistype, has to be 400mm, just based on the Kingpin picture.  Every 240/280/360 radiator AIO out there (with a few exceptions) has 350-400mm tubing, especially Asetek units, which I believe this still is.



If it's a mistype he mistyped it both here and on Twitter, which leads me to believe it's not a mistype.

It looks fairly short in pictures, and the 2080ti kingpin's also looked short in pictures.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:25:55 (permalink)
No the 2080ti kingpin had the 400mm hoses, a 200mm hose is just way too short, has to be a type error.




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:31:22 (permalink)
So how exactly is this going to work out? Do we pay up front or do we have to wait for the email to come in once it is our turn from the Auto-Notify then pay?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:34:24 (permalink)
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So how exactly is this going to work out? Do we pay up front or do we have to wait for the email to come in once it is our turn from the Auto-Notify then pay?



My understanding is that we'll need to get to the elite member page, get to the product page, click to be notified, and then wait for the email to come in which will contain a direct link to then purchase.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:36:01 (permalink)
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The kingpin is priced really well! Why did I even get a ftw3ultra haha...


I know right, I'm surprised it's that low.



It does, doesn't it.  Part of me wonders how the 6900XT will face off against the best of the 3090s.


It won't the 3090 KP will dominate as it did before. Plus what I've seen so far the 6800 series can't ray trace for crap.




Ray tracing is pretty much the only significant advantage.  But if I'm after high FPS for a high refresh rate monitor then I'm not going to turn on ray tracing (although having the option is nice).  And DLSS is still Title specific. 
 
Even the 3090 loses to the 6800 non-XT in some cases.  Here's a cherry-picked chart:
 
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:38:36 (permalink)
Alright let's assume that I get my notify in but it may not meet the december 7th batch etc. Does that put me in for the second batch automatically? Or do you guys plan on removing the auto notify once you hit a certain limit?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:40:54 (permalink)
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Ray tracing is pretty much the only significant advantage.  But if I'm after high FPS for a high refresh rate monitor then I'm not going to turn on ray tracing (although having the option is nice).  And DLSS is still Title specific. 
 
Even the 3090 loses to the 6800 non-XT in some cases.  Here's a cherry-picked chart:
 
 



Seems to me the Radeon 6000's are 1080p/1440p high-refresh cards. The RTX 3000's are tuned for 4K & RT but still handle everything very well. I'd rather have a 3000 card.


 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:41:30 (permalink)
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The kingpin is priced really well! Why did I even get a ftw3ultra haha...


I know right, I'm surprised it's that low.



It does, doesn't it.  Part of me wonders how the 6900XT will face off against the best of the 3090s.


It won't the 3090 KP will dominate as it did before. Plus what I've seen so far the 6800 series can't ray trace for crap.




Ray tracing is pretty much the only significant advantage.  But if I'm after high FPS for a high refresh rate monitor then I'm not going to turn on ray tracing (although having the option is nice).  And DLSS is still Title specific. 
 
Even the 3090 loses to the 6800 non-XT in some cases.  Here's a cherry-picked chart:
 
 




Fatal error using an unoptimized, console ported, released too soon as usual, Ubisoft game.  That will be patched in to normalcy sometime in the next month.  I don't see that lead actually holding when drivers & the game itself is fixed.
 
Not saying the 6800XT isn't a great card, because it is for the price, but in the stack it doesn't come anywhere close to the 3090 in any game that's working properly.
 
Edit: and even if that result stands, that's one game out of literally almost 100 different games I've seen tested where the 6800XT & 3080 trade blows, the 6800 is more expensive than the 3070 and beats it regularly, which only makes sense.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:41:55 (permalink)
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The kingpin is priced really well! Why did I even get a ftw3ultra haha...


I know right, I'm surprised it's that low.



It does, doesn't it.  Part of me wonders how the 6900XT will face off against the best of the 3090s.


It won't the 3090 KP will dominate as it did before. Plus what I've seen so far the 6800 series can't ray trace for crap.




Ray tracing is pretty much the only significant advantage.  But if I'm after high FPS for a high refresh rate monitor then I'm not going to turn on ray tracing (although having the option is nice).  And DLSS is still Title specific. 
 
Even the 3090 loses to the 6800 non-XT in some cases.  Here's a cherry-picked chart:
 
 




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:44:17 (permalink)
Is the KP Hydro Copper not going to be available for notify tomorrow? Only product page up is for the Hybrid.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:47:46 (permalink)
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Is the KP Hydro Copper not going to be available for notify tomorrow? Only product page up is for the Hybrid.


Yes only the Hybrid, the Hydro will be out at a later unknown date.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:48:10 (permalink)
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Fatal error using an unoptimized, console ported, released too soon as usual, Ubisoft game.  That will be patched in to normalcy sometime in the next month.  I don't see that lead actually holding when drivers & the game itself is fixed.
 
Not saying the 6800XT isn't a great card, because it is for the price, but in the stack it doesn't come anywhere close to the 3090 in any game that's working properly.
 
Edit: and even if that result stands, that's one game out of literally almost 100 different games I've seen tested where the 6800XT & 3080 trade blows, the 6800 is more expensive than the 3070 and beats it regularly, which only makes sense.



Wonder if that lead'll hold true once NVidia get's its reBar going (they're answer to SAM). Since that's the primary way AMD is being competitive with Nvidia atm (think rage mode only adds 1%-2% where SAM adds up to like 12%).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:48:59 (permalink)
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No ETA yet on HC.




Well Jacob, As much as I would love to get this, kinda waiting on the HC Version KP Version.
 
Big question is will you sell only AIO Hybrid KPE and Waterblock Separate so we are all forced to buy the Hybrid
 
Or will there be a KPE HC Version that comes as KPE + Waterblock?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:55:28 (permalink)
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No ETA yet on HC.




Well Jacob, As much as I would love to get this, kinda waiting on the HC Version KP Version.
 
Big question is will you sell only AIO Hybrid KPE and Waterblock Separate so we are all forced to buy the Hybrid
 
Or will there be a KPE HC Version that comes as KPE + Waterblock?


This is well-known information brother, c'mon.
 
There will be a Kingpin Hydrocopper edition released at a later date -- probably sometime in December as per Jacob.


 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 21:56:19 (permalink)
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No ETA yet on HC.




Well Jacob, As much as I would love to get this, kinda waiting on the HC Version KP Version.
 
Big question is will you sell only AIO Hybrid KPE and Waterblock Separate so we are all forced to buy the Hybrid
 
Or will there be a KPE HC Version that comes as KPE + Waterblock?



There is supposed to be a hydro copper version kingpin as well.




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 22:07:02 (permalink)

 
Had to check on twitter for the answer. Buying the AIO in hopes of having a KPHC Block Purchased later is as per Jacob "Not yet determined"
 
So unless he says "Yes, KPHC Waterblock purchase will be later"
 
I'm waiting for the KPEHC (GPU + Waterblock in 1 box)
 
So you got 1 less person chasing that supply, enjoy it guys. I need a little more reassurance than "Not yet determined" before I drop $2K.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 22:09:12 (permalink)
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Ahh you're not USA. Ok maybe you have a better banking system where you are (or laws that demand immediate processing). In US it usually takes a few days to process where credit card refunds are concerned. The fact that it can be done immediately where you are says something about the US system doesn't it. Just note, if you're buying from EVGA.com it needs to be a US credit card.. I think Canada and Mexico are ok too, but that's it afaik.
 

I'm in Canada and used a debit card not a credit card. Credit card may have taken a day or two to process but I've never had an issue with my debit-card linked to my chequing account. Cheers!

Cheers!


 


This may sound weird, but Canada has far more advanced banking infrastructure than most of the US, but that's not without a cost. For instance, we have far LESS choice in our banking institutions, where as the US tends to have a lot more competition in the form of more local, rather than national banks. This is a complex socio-economic discussion that isn't necessarily relevant here, but let's put it this way: Apple considered it to be a huge success when Apple Pay was usable at more than 50% of retailers in the US (after being out for several years), but at the same time, it was acceptable at nearly every store in Canada, because chip-card technology has been ubiquitous here for as long as I can remember. Also, Visa Debit cards result in an instant transaction because they represent real money being transferred from your account rather than money that you are allowed to spend.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 22:18:15 (permalink)
So the card is listed now on both regular as well as elite site, but out of stock in any case? Question is, is it already or still not avialable? :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Coming soon 2020/11/19 22:23:34 (permalink)
Won't be available until tomorrow, but once available for elite members only if I understand right. The number available will be very limited though.




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