TBahre
Tonight I just got my rev1.0 3090 from the oc3090 email program. I'm showing bios 94.02.42.C0.02 when switched to the OC slider.
Max I've been able to pull is 453.4 watts.
GPU-Z says PrefCap Reason is "Pwr"
Also my 8-pin max draws are Pin1: 143w, Pin2: 147.2w, Pin3: 100.9w and PCIe Slot power max is 62.7w
 
So I'm guessing that it's still 8-Pin #3 holding me back but at the same time it's good to see that the PCIe draw is under control now. What gives EVGA? I thought you guys claimed to have the power draws balanced finally? Why is pin#3 still lacking compared to the first two pins? If we could just get that third pin to do it's job then this card would love to push closer to 500w.
 

I have the same issue with my RMA 1.0 card. If you load the rev 0.1 bios (94.02.42.80.27) from post 1 it will allow you to hit 500w.
PCie stays at 66W, pin1&2 hit 150-160w, pin3 < 120w...
 
Haven't had any issues so far.
ps. you have to use nvflash due to the PN change.

Bought the FTW3 Ultra 3090 today. Thought it was acting a bit weird, still had non-resizable bar bios on both settings. Have had power problems with all bios, doesn’t even like going 420w on any bios, bar or not, 450w or 500w biosor 107%.
I’m assuming I got a rev 0.1, registered and sent email. It’s too much of a coincidence I think?

neteng101
Is rev 1.0 meant to address the early 3090 failures/red LED of death issues?
 
Seeing the same behavior with my 3080 Ti - Pin 3 is always less than 1/2, but PCIe slot power is well under control and doesn't push the slot limits.  There's no XOC BIOS so its limited to 450W and pin 1/2 tends to hit Pwr limits easily.  My guess is they mapped different phases to different power inputs, with less phases on pin 3 for whatever reasons.

I believe rev1.0 addresses a power balance issue within the pcb itself. I dont know if this issue is the cause of the failures. Your analysis of the power distribution sounds solid to me so with that said i’d imagine that the 450w I’m seeing is the “within spec” maximum the card is capable of.

Using the bios from the first page of this post asks the card to pull more than the spec of the first two 8-pin connectors so thats why (I imagine) they say do not apply that bios to a new rev1.0 card.

What do you all think?

Thank you so much EVGA for doing so much for the graphics card community

What is the max power target increased to?

Tiiii86
@spider1701 i finally recived my 1.0 revision card P/N 24G-P5-3987-KR. I have not tried it yet because I'm upgrading cpu n mobo I will probably do it tomorrow but what bios should I install? Should I update from precision x1 or do you have other better bios?

BTW I got a brand new card with sealed factory box and everything THANK YOU EVGA for great service!

Hello,
well I used the original bios from X1 relevant to my PN. My card is able to get 495W but even so I am glad that PCIE is now in spec :-)
I know if I force bios from this forum I will go over 500W but who cares really :-).
 
kind regards
Tomas

jollib
did you have to send you card in first and if you did how long did it take?

I live in Sweden, I sent my card on Thursday with day after delivery (you pay for it and arrival is your responsibility/risk) it came on Friday to Evga Germany. They sent new card on Monday and it arrived yesterday (Thursday) wow what a support!

So I've spent most of the day here dialing in my new rev1.0 card with 3dmark timespy. Out of quite a few runs this is the best I've been able to do on the OC position bios that the card shipped with. It seemed like as the day has progressed the card pulls more and more total board draw each run as it gets broken in. For example earlier this morning I was only pulling around 445 to 450 watts. Now this afternoon it has hit 461.3 watts.
 
While this is short of the 500 watt dream we all have I have to say I am really pretty happy with what my card can do.
 
Also, for anyone wondering, I'm using a blemish optimus block with mayhems xt-1 nuke coolant.
 
You can see from my screenshot of GPU-Z that this card could definitely do more with more power, as it spends all it's time in the benchmark power limited. I've never used nvflash to flash a vbios before but I'm wondering if it would be possible to flash the kingpin's 520w bios to the OC switch position. Anyone know if that's a thing that could be done on the FTW3?
 

 

 

TBahre
So I've spent most of the day here dialing in my new rev1.0 card with 3dmark timespy. Out of quite a few runs this is the best I've been able to do on the OC position bios that the card shipped with. It seemed like as the day has progressed the card pulls more and more total board draw each run as it gets broken in. For example earlier this morning I was only pulling around 445 to 450 watts. Now this afternoon it has hit 461.3 watts.
 
While this is short of the 500 watt dream we all have I have to say I am really pretty happy with what my card can do.
 
Also, for anyone wondering, I'm using a blemish optimus block with mayhems xt-1 nuke coolant.
 
You can see from my screenshot of GPU-Z that this card could definitely do more with more power, as it spends all it's time in the benchmark power limited. I've never used nvflash to flash a vbios before but I'm wondering if it would be possible to flash the kingpin's 520w bios to the OC switch position. Anyone know if that's a thing that could be done on the FTW3?
 

 

 

 
Most 3090s are power limited.  Even the Kingpin's 520 watt BIOS will be power limited in most benchmarks.  For example, I ran into the same power limit issue with my Gaming X Trio.

 
The Kingpin BIOS versions will flash to the 3090 FTW3 if you know all of the proper commands to use in NVFLash. The Kingpin 520 watt power limit gains will be minimal over the 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS.
 
I don't remember if the 3090 FTW3 loses one of the display port outputs with the Kingpin BIOS since its been a while since I had a 3090 FTW3 with the Kingpin BIOS flashed on it.  I know the Strix 3090 and the MSI Gaming X Trio and MSI Suprim lose video out on one of the display port outputs with the Kingpin BIOS flashed to them.
 
Once you hard mod the card or flash a higher wattage BIOS, you then become voltage limited.  The Kingpin, Galax HOF, and the Asus Strix have the ability to change the voltage either through software or 3rd party hardware mods.  I don't remember seeing any way to solder an external voltage controller to a 3090 FTW3.
 
 

Why isn't this thread pinned at the top of the RTX 30 series forum now?  It was pinned there yesterday.

ElysianCloud
Yeah I have done it. For me it did no better than the 500w bios in the OP. I only averaged like 460w with it.

Thanks for the reply
 
 
 

bavor
Most 3090s are power limited.  Even the Kingpin's 520 watt BIOS will be power limited in most benchmarks.  For example, I ran into the same power limit issue with my Gaming X Trio.
 
The Kingpin BIOS versions will flash to the 3090 FTW3 if you know all of the proper commands to use in NVFLash. The Kingpin 520 watt power limit gains will be minimal over the 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS.
 
I don't remember if the 3090 FTW3 loses one of the display port outputs with the Kingpin BIOS since its been a while since I had a 3090 FTW3 with the Kingpin BIOS flashed on it.  I know the Strix 3090 and the MSI Gaming X Trio and MSI Suprim lose video out on one of the display port outputs with the Kingpin BIOS flashed to them.
 
Once you hard mod the card or flash a higher wattage BIOS, you then become voltage limited.  The Kingpin, Galax HOF, and the Asus Strix have the ability to change the voltage either through software or 3rd party hardware mods.  I don't remember seeing any way to solder an external voltage controller to a 3090 FTW3.

 
Hey thank you for the info, it's good to hear some personal experience from someone who has done it themselves.

TBahre
Tonight I just got my rev1.0 3090 from the oc3090 email program. I'm showing bios 94.02.42.C0.02 when switched to the OC slider.
Max I've been able to pull is 453.4 watts.
GPU-Z says PrefCap Reason is "Pwr"
Also my 8-pin max draws are Pin1: 143w, Pin2: 147.2w, Pin3: 100.9w and PCIe Slot power max is 62.7w
 
So I'm guessing that it's still 8-Pin #3 holding me back but at the same time it's good to see that the PCIe draw is under control now. What gives EVGA? I thought you guys claimed to have the power draws balanced finally? Why is pin#3 still lacking compared to the first two pins? If we could just get that third pin to do it's job then this card would love to push closer to 500w.
 

How come your GPU max temperature is 80°C? With a custom watercooling it should be around 50°C
 
#edit: oh i see it was before you watercooled it ;)

So I flashed one of the switch positions on my FTW3 rev1.0 to the 520 watt Kingpin bios 94.02.42.00.0F
 
The results speak for themselves, the card opens up nicely in both Time Spy and Port Royal. The gains aren't anything to go crazy over but it's just good to see that the card is capable of more than the stock XOC bios allows.
 
Port Royal brings out a lower power draw than Time Spy; 487.7 watts and 517.3 watts respectively.
 
Pcie power draw stays well within spec in both tests.
 
8-Pins 1 and 2 go over the designed 150 watts but not by too much, I am completely fine with the numbers I'm seeing. 8-Pin 3 comes in much lower than 1 and 2 as usual.
 
I'm on water with an Optimus block so temps are well under under control.
 

 

 
 

Tiiii86
Can the kingpin bios give negative effects on the card?

Can you explain how you flashed it (for dummies) 😁

I'm not a video card engineer so I cant say what the actual impact is, but through the research I did before I flashed my card I determined that as long as you are smart with what you are doing them the risk stays pretty low. There's a few important tips to keep in mind:
 
***In the forum post where I got my info from they are discussing flashing an XC3 bios onto the FTW3 card. Don't do this. Stick with bios from cards that are very similar to your own (same monitor outputs, same 8-pin power connectors, ect).
 
***Discontinue using evga's PX1 utility, their utility has the ability to detect a card and then download and apply updates to the card. It may think your card is something other than what it actually is due to the bios you applied to it. Applying an incorrect update may bring on all sorts of bizarre problems, instead try afterburner as that utility cannot update anything on your card.
 
***Backup your original bios, Backup your original bios, Backup your original bios
 
***Make absolutely sure that your cooling can handle 500 watts or greater. Water cooling is perfect for the 520 watt kingpin bios.
 
I wont be responsible for any damage you cause, just be careful and watch what you are doing. Here's the post where I got my info from: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3185822
 
 
 
In other news - I finally tried something other than benchmarks with the 520 watt kingpin bios on my FTW3. I had time for about 45 minutes of Red Dead Redemption 2 tonight. Here is the GPU-Z from that run:
 

 
 I'll post again sometime in the next couple of days with an identical screenshot of GPU-Z except I'll do a run with the rev1.0 stock FTW3 XOC bios for a nice comparison to see if it's even worth using this bios for gaming on my card.

Tiiii86

jollib
did you have to send you card in first and if you did how long did it take?

I live in Sweden, I sent my card on Thursday with day after delivery (you pay for it and arrival is your responsibility/risk) it came on Friday to Evga Germany. They sent new card on Monday and it arrived yesterday (Thursday) wow what a support!

Hey bro, I'm living in Sweden too, I purchased my card from Inet. As far as I understand you didn't send your card to the reseller, but directly to EVGA Germany? 
My card too is also out off spec (3090 FTW3 Ultra rev. 0.1), can draw up to 80W+ on the PCIe slot, this on standard bios.  The 12V is also unbalanced on the 3 PCIe 12V inputs. Have just purchased a new MB with new CPU and RAM, don't wanna fry it... 
But my card acts strange, for several month the problem was 3rd 12V was to low compared to the the 2 others, but now from one day to another its OK, but now it's the #1 that has become to low.
Regards