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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 12:15:22
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Mine was received today by EVGA in Germany, also 2014xxxx S/N.
Spoiler
I will be putting the replacement card for sale when it arrives at €2475 (same price I paid myself. Not making any profit out of it).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 12:33:15
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Well the official statement is, they swap it because of the power draw not because it may brick in the future.
They aren't swapping them out of the goodness of their hearts. They have an idea of what's happening. Notice no one with these new revisions is having cards die super early? They only have identified symptoms of an issue not told us the long term outcomes of said issue. Having many top-sku products failing early is a bigger issue for companies than a few nerds getting 2% higher benchmark results.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 13:00:41
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I have to agree with lobstar I think the special RMA will cost EVGA less in the long run.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 13:51:15
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elbramso
Well the official statement is, they swap it because of the power draw not because it may brick in the future.
They aren't swapping them out of the goodness of their hearts. They have an idea of what's happening. Notice no one with these new revisions is having cards die super early? They only have identified symptoms of an issue not told us the long term outcomes of said issue. Having many top-sku products failing early is a bigger issue for companies than a few nerds getting 2% higher benchmark results.
I think going over the pci-e spec in power delivery is a risk but not a guarantee that the gpu will die. I've never had any issues with either of my cards deteriorating any of my hardware. So there is no evidence to prove what you are saying is true. Some people shunt pci-e delivery in other cards to get more juice out of their cards and it's ill advised but not a guarantee that hardware will fail.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 14:05:40
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I just received my card (serial number starting with 2112).
1st observation the card did not arrive with the 500W bios as announced by jacob.
2nd observation: my pci express16* port still draws 80 watt and I don't exceed 430w with furmark
they sent me back exactly the same card with the same problems as my old one.
I paid more than 100 euros to send a card, and find myself back at the starting bridge!
After the update rBar +v bios with the software px1
I have the following bios installed
94.02.42.80.26 for the normal bios and 94.02.42.80.27 for the OC bios both limited to 450W
Conclusion:Get away from evga and their damn card.i'm going to sell this thing and get a strix oc!
Do you have a link for the Normal and OC bios with RBAr for my model of card (serial starting with 2112?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 14:24:45
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Den-ko
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elbramso
Well the official statement is, they swap it because of the power draw not because it may brick in the future.
They aren't swapping them out of the goodness of their hearts. They have an idea of what's happening. Notice no one with these new revisions is having cards die super early? They only have identified symptoms of an issue not told us the long term outcomes of said issue. Having many top-sku products failing early is a bigger issue for companies than a few nerds getting 2% higher benchmark results.
I think going over the pci-e spec in power delivery is a risk but not a guarantee that the gpu will die. I've never had any issues with either of my cards deteriorating any of my hardware. So there is no evidence to prove what you are saying is true. Some people shunt pci-e delivery in other cards to get more juice out of their cards and it's ill advised but not a guarantee that hardware will fail.
Just go look at all the threads in the rest of the forum about dead cards ...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 14:26:33
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Dasoa
I just received my card (serial number starting with 2112).
1st observation the card did not arrive with the 500W bios as announced by jacob.
2nd observation: my pci express16* port still draws 80 watt and I don't exceed 430w with furmark
they sent me back exactly the same card with the same problems as my old one.
I paid more than 100 euros to send a card, and find myself back at the starting bridge!
After the update rBar +v bios with the software px1
I have the following bios installed
94.02.42.80.26 for the normal bios and 94.02.42.80.27 for the OC bios both limited to 450W
Conclusion:Get away from evga and their damn card.i'm going to sell this thing and get a strix oc!
Do you have a link for the Normal and OC bios with RBAr for my model of card (serial starting with 2112?
Follow up to your RMA emails. The ticket can be re-opened. Start with support not the forum.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 14:41:36
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Dasoa
I just received my card (serial number starting with 2112).
1st observation the card did not arrive with the 500W bios as announced by jacob.
2nd observation: my pci express16* port still draws 80 watt and I don't exceed 430w with furmark
they sent me back exactly the same card with the same problems as my old one.
I paid more than 100 euros to send a card, and find myself back at the starting bridge!
After the update rBar +v bios with the software px1
I have the following bios installed
94.02.42.80.26 for the normal bios and 94.02.42.80.27 for the OC bios both limited to 450W
Conclusion:Get away from evga and their damn card.i'm going to sell this thing and get a strix oc!
Do you have a link for the Normal and OC bios with RBAr for my model of card (serial starting with 2112?
Follow up to your RMA emails. The ticket can be re-opened. Start with support not the forum.
I post my experience here to advise others.
Who are you to tell me what and where to post my messages?
You are afraid of damaging the image of your favorite brand.
I post facts not fairy tales...and when it comes to whether you believe me or not, I don't care my friend!
post edited by Dasoa - 2021/04/08 14:43:41
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 14:56:23
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Dear Jacob, my 3090 ftw3 ultra crashes in games, does not sustain *any* overclock and sucks ~85 watts of power through pcie.
Could you help please?
Whats the quick evga 3090 oc email that was posted here please?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 15:07:26
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Dear Jacob, my 3090 ftw3 ultra crashes in games, does not sustain *any* overclock and sucks ~85 watts of power through pcie.
Could you help please?
Whats the quick evga 3090 oc email that was posted here please?
look back at the first page, the email is posted there.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 15:50:06
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Anyone have link for the Normal and OC bios with RBAr 500W for my model of card (serial starting with 2112?)RTX3090 ftw3 ultra?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 15:52:40
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Dasoa
Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 13 minutes ago (permalink)
Dasoa
I just received my card (serial number starting with 2112).
1st observation the card did not arrive with the 500W bios as announced by jacob.
2nd observation: my pci express16* port still draws 80 watt and I don't exceed 430w with furmark
they sent me back exactly the same card with the same problems as my old one.
I paid more than 100 euros to send a card, and find myself back at the starting bridge!
After the update rBar +v bios with the software px1
I have the following bios installed
94.02.42.80.26 for the normal bios and 94.02.42.80.27 for the OC bios both limited to 450W
Conclusion:Get away from evga and their damn card.i'm going to sell this thing and get a strix oc!
Do you have a link for the Normal and OC bios with RBAr for my model of card (serial starting with 2112?
Follow up to your RMA emails. The ticket can be re-opened. Start with support not the forum.
I post my experience here to advise others.
Who are you to tell me what and where to post my messages?
You are afraid of damaging the image of your favorite brand.
I post facts not fairy tales...and when it comes to whether you believe me or not, I don't care my friend!
I was giving you advice because you obviously have a problem there but you turned around to be an absolute ****. GG, enjoy your brick. Dasoa
Anyone have link for the Normal and OC bios with RBAr 500W for my model of card (serial starting with 2112?)RTX3090 ftw3 ultra?
Not with your toxic attitude.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 15:59:31
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You are a kind of parasite, eh, already speak more politely to be understood . Otherwise my question is for all and not exclusively for you 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 16:06:03
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Dasoa
You are a kind of parasite, eh, already speak more politely to be understood . Otherwise my question is for all and not exclusively for you
You misunderstand. I have the links available but you chose to be a twat when offered a way to remedy your issue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 16:12:26
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post edited by Dasoa - 2021/04/08 17:32:21
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 16:40:41
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500W BIOS, and I can't get any more power draw really than the 430W. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or not. PCIe power seems a bit high, and its not really pulling evenly from the 8-pins. #3 is a bit lower than the others. Max power consumption is low too. Most of the benchmark barely pulls 100% Power. No real difference than the 430W. I've been trying to break 14.4K in Port Royal, but its not quite ever getting there.  Edit: 3090 FTW3 Ultra Any ideas?
post edited by rippleeffect - 2021/04/08 17:16:37
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 17:27:04
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14.4K is about the max the 3090 can do. Some can get to 15k but most don't.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 17:45:37
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So what was the px1 firmware update today?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 18:10:01
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lobstar
Dasoa
You are a kind of parasite, eh, already speak more politely to be understood . Otherwise my question is for all and not exclusively for you
You misunderstand. I have the links available but you chose to be a twat when offered a way to remedy your issue.
Yo do you know if they’ve released the XOC 500w hybrid bios w/rebar for new revision cards? I’ve been outta town for a week.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 18:52:29
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Just shipped my card via Priority Mail for special program RMA today, hopefully a replacement will come back soon enough. This is from a new card (not a replacement) running Time Spy Extreme, iirc +150/+1000 OC.  Edit: how do I get the 3DMark links to work??? Time Spy Extreme www.3dmark.com/spy/19577475And running PR drew slightly lower power but with lower OC, I think +125/+1000 www.3dmark.com/pr/984264
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 19:31:40
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It looks like the replacement cards seem to have a lower power limit? Not sure if I am seeing that correctly. I have an original card and can reach with 500W with the XOC bios + PX1 update for rebar. I had to RMA my hybrid kit, so I am currently running the air cooler and original FTW3 Ultra firmware. PCIE power goes up to 81W. Wonder if I should risk it or get an RMA 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 19:38:38
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So I just got the card from the power limit program, and went straight to flashing it with KPE 520W bios. This is metro exodus 3440x1440, max, no DLSS. My old card was able to hold 2205Mhz at like 500W on port royal, problem was it had to be on KPE 1000W bios, which is too risky for me 24/7. Old FTW3 with XC3 bios system power was like 710W vs new RMA one at 780-790w on metro exodus. https://imgur.com/a/Ci0GMRS
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 20:41:09
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I just got my 3090 FTW3 ultra (new purchase off EVGA, not RMA) and the card will only draw 450W in OC mode, even in Port Royal. Cards being shipped out now shouldn't have the power balancing issue now, correct? It looks like the power balancing and the power limit isn't the same issue. Does having a 119 power % equate to 500W?
I flashed the KPE and got up to 500W, but got wonky fan speeds.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 20:49:35
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winterrr
I just got my 3090 FTW3 ultra (new purchase off EVGA, not RMA) and the card will only draw 450W in OC mode, even in Port Royal. Cards being shipped out now shouldn't have the power balancing issue now, correct? It looks like the power balancing and the power limit isn't the same issue. Does having a 119 power % equate to 500W?
I flashed the KPE and got up to 500W, but got wonky fan speeds.
The one I posted with 498.6 W is a new card bought yesterday from Micro Center. Try running Time Spy Extreme and see what's your board power draw? And yes, I think the standard TDP is 420 W, 119% of that is 500 W. My card didn't come loaded with the 500 W OC BIOS though, I flashed the one provided here on page 1.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 21:38:48
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winterrr
I just got my 3090 FTW3 ultra (new purchase off EVGA, not RMA) and the card will only draw 450W in OC mode, even in Port Royal. Cards being shipped out now shouldn't have the power balancing issue now, correct? It looks like the power balancing and the power limit isn't the same issue. Does having a 119 power % equate to 500W?
I flashed the KPE and got up to 500W, but got wonky fan speeds.
The one I posted with 498.6 W is a new card bought yesterday from Micro Center. Try running Time Spy Extreme and see what's your board power draw? And yes, I think the standard TDP is 420 W, 119% of that is 500 W. My card didn't come loaded with the 500 W OC BIOS though, I flashed the one provided here on page 1.
did you flash the OC or the Standard BIOS? I tried flashing the OC BIOS using the one from the OP and it told me it wasn't compatible
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 23:27:07
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winterrr
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winterrr
I just got my 3090 FTW3 ultra (new purchase off EVGA, not RMA) and the card will only draw 450W in OC mode, even in Port Royal. Cards being shipped out now shouldn't have the power balancing issue now, correct? It looks like the power balancing and the power limit isn't the same issue. Does having a 119 power % equate to 500W?
I flashed the KPE and got up to 500W, but got wonky fan speeds.
The one I posted with 498.6 W is a new card bought yesterday from Micro Center. Try running Time Spy Extreme and see what's your board power draw? And yes, I think the standard TDP is 420 W, 119% of that is 500 W. My card didn't come loaded with the 500 W OC BIOS though, I flashed the one provided here on page 1.
did you flash the OC or the Standard BIOS? I tried flashing the OC BIOS using the one from the OP and it told me it wasn't compatible
EVGA_JacobF
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 - Updated 4/5/21 with Resizable BAR Versions. Important: If your card ALREADY came with the XOC BIOS in the secondary position, do not apply these updates:
- EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA – BIOS 1 (Normal) | BIOS 2 (OC)
I switched the BIOS file position to OC and then flashed the BIOS 2 (OC) from 4/5/21 update. Resizable BAR was then enabled right off the bat, didn't need any additional update. Edit: I guess I can't post links yet because my community account is too new? But they're on the first page, posted by Jacob.
post edited by yulinzhang - 2021/04/08 23:29:12
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elbramso
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/08 23:59:12
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elbramso
Well the official statement is, they swap it because of the power draw not because it may brick in the future.
They aren't swapping them out of the goodness of their hearts. They have an idea of what's happening. Notice no one with these new revisions is having cards die super early? They only have identified symptoms of an issue not told us the long term outcomes of said issue. Having many top-sku products failing early is a bigger issue for companies than a few nerds getting 2% higher benchmark results.
I absolutely get ur point but there is still no official statement about this. If my cards bricks I could still RMA it. Btw. does anyone know how long the special RMA will be available?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/04/09 00:14:57
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hello,
is there an official Resizable BAR XC3 BIOS available to brick the faulted FTW3 Ultra cards again?
atm i'm using the 500w OC one...max draw 456w...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/04/09 00:27:02
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EVGA_JacobF
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 - Updated 4/5/21 with Resizable BAR Versions. Important: If your card ALREADY came with the XOC BIOS in the secondary position, do not apply these updates:
NOTE: There are 2 BIOS's, one is for the BIOS when switched to the normal stock position, the other if switched to the OC position
If you wish to go back to the Default BIOS you can find them below:
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA Default BIOS - BIOS 1 (Normal) | BIOS 2 (OC)
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Default BIOS - BIOS 1 (Normal) | BIOS 2 (OC)
@EVGA_JacobF, could you please also post the link to the new XOC bios for GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING, 24G-P5-3988-KR? I tried the Hybrid from the link you posted but it isn't made for my card (it didn't detect a compatible card when I ran the flash). Thank you.
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