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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 13:20:12 (permalink)
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Warning: You are viewing an unverified BIOS file.
94.02.42.80.27
 
So is there a plan for official BAR enabled 500W Bios ?


There already is one for the 3090. That BIOS you posted is for a 3080 though.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 13:22:31 (permalink)
You could also use the bios in this thread and then use PX1 to update to current rebar version. 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 14:25:38 (permalink)
 
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Quite low, yes.
 



so this is KPE520W vbios right? Does the rebar works on FTW3 card with KPE520W vbios? Doesnt look like it works, but from techpowerup testing it seems like its about 1% increase on average in games anyway (more in games like cyberpunk). Not that big of a loss compare to XOC500W vbios with rebar. I guess depends on whether or not KPE520W can provide more stable clock speed
 
www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-pci-express-resizable-bar-performance-test/25.html
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 16:39:48 (permalink)
So I flashed the kingpin REBAR 520 watt BIOS onto my power balance program card. I can now hit 500 watts which is pretty amazing. I am just not able to complete a PR run with any decent overclock. Anyone else running this combo, what numbers have you been getting in afterburner? Do you have your voltage set statically or are you using a curve? Sorry for the cell phone pic.
 
post edited by phroze - 2021/04/07 16:58:20

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 16:49:33 (permalink)
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Quite low, yes.
 



so this is KPE520W vbios right? Does the rebar works on FTW3 card with KPE520W vbios? Doesnt look like it works, but from techpowerup testing it seems like its about 1% increase on average in games anyway (more in games like cyberpunk). Not that big of a loss compare to XOC500W vbios with rebar. I guess depends on whether or not KPE520W can provide more stable clock speed
 
www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-pci-express-resizable-bar-performance-test/25.html


I am running the KPE520w bios with ReBar. I'm not entirely sure how to verify if ReBar actually works or not however it shows enabled everywhere I can find.  PX1, GPU-z, etc.


 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 17:06:40 (permalink)
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So I flashed the kingpin REBAR 520 watt BIOS onto my power balance program card. I can now hit 500 watts which is pretty amazing. I am just not able to complete a PR run with any decent overclock. Anyone else running this combo, what numbers have you been getting in afterburner? Do you have your voltage set statically or are you using a curve? Sorry for the cell phone pic.
 


I daily +100/+1500 on air right now with that bios on my replacement card.  No adjustment to voltage.  No curve.
 
These benchmarks were with the window open during a cold night with a manual curve with locked voltage at 1.081v @ 2220mhz +1500mem.
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/972071
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19424959
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 17:34:51 (permalink)
That is interesting. I thought it would be like flashing XC3 vbios into FTW3 cards, where PX1 would freak out out when you open it and attempt to flash the right firmware/vbios or something. I dont see it on techpowerup, where did u guys download KPE520W vbios with rebar?
 
this is the 520w no rebar:
www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227017/evga-rtx3090-24576-201110
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 17:45:54 (permalink)
Just received shipping notification on my 3090 program card! (US)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 17:52:58 (permalink)
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That is interesting. I thought it would be like flashing XC3 vbios into FTW3 cards, where PX1 would freak out out when you open it and attempt to flash the right firmware/vbios or something. I dont see it on techpowerup, where did u guys download KPE520W vbios with rebar?
 
this is the 520w no rebar:
www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227017/evga-rtx3090-24576-201110


It does freak out but I edited out the auto-update part from the PX1 exe.  KPE520w w/ rebar - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/231621/231621

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 18:44:59 (permalink)
Hi everyone!
First time writing in the forums, and I hope I am not breaking any rules by asking here, instead of making a new thread... But I felt it applied to this thread.
I did something stupid, and I don't dare to do ANYTHING, before someone tells me exactly what to do!
 
I was poking around in Precision X1, and stumbled upon the Re-BAR tab... I noticed that the "Graphics VBIOS" said "Update".
Stupidly, I clicked it without reading up on what Resizable BAR actually is -_-
So I got the following text:

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility
Version 5.680.0
Copyright (C) 2018-2020, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.

   The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 6 seconds
   or more during access to the EEPROM depending on your display
   adapter and output device, it will begin in about 3 seconds.

Firmware Image Version: 94.02.42.80.AD
Found display adapter suitable for this update:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Device Path: S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00
                     Current Firmware Version: 94.02.26.48.15

CONFIRM: You are about to update the firmware of the display adapter.
Are you sure you want to do this?
Press 'y' to confirm (any other key to abort): y
 Error: PushPoll Cycle - NVF Writing Payload to uCode Timeout. Payload State: 00000004
                         Entire pushPollCtrl0: 68003C04

 PAYLOAD_CMD_READ


Update Aborted - Invalid firmware image detected. Provide an Enthusiast Key to flash this firmware image.



ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.

Please note this error and contact your display adapter manufacturer's
technical support line.  It is important that you leave your system ON and NOT
reboot until instructed by your manufacturer on how to proceed.

Press any key to exit...


So, now I am kinda scared that I screwed things up!
Please help me!
 
Specs:
 
 
*EDIT*
I am running on "Normal BIOS", if that makes any difference?
I'm guessing I just have to flash the default BIOS from OP: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA Default BIOS - ?
But if I wanna go XOC, can I go straight for those two?
My card is suited in a Alphacool Eisblock Aurora Acryl GPX-N RTX and never been over 50C / 120F
post edited by ^GaMbi - 2021/04/07 19:14:14
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 21:46:02 (permalink)
I tried installing the xc3 bios and the kingpin bios and nothing seems to be working, is it because I'm on the OC on the bios slider and I can only update the normal one? Anyone know whats going on?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 22:19:05 (permalink)
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..but I edited out the auto-update part from the PX1 exe.



Please do share! :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 22:26:56 (permalink)
Should I send my card in? This is from looping Time Spy custom graphics test 2.

 
For those of you that sent your cards for the power issues RMA, how did you package your cards?
 
And for the 30-day new card replacement, where does 30 day cut off? Is it from the time of purchase to RMA approval/defective card shipped/defective card delivered? Thanks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 22:28:41 (permalink)
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lobstar
 ..but I edited out the auto-update part from the PX1 exe.

Please do share! :)

There are tutorials out there already.  I'd rather not pass around unverified edits of software I don't have rights to on the board of the people who make the software.  It's not safe for users and I don't want to open myself to any sort of liability.  I hope you understand.  That said, it's really simple but it does help if you understand basic coding and reverse engineering/debugging tools.

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 22:31:52 (permalink)
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For those of you that sent your cards for the power issues RMA, how did you package your cards?
 
And for the 30-day new card replacement, where does 30 day cut off? Is it from the time of purchase to RMA approval/defective card shipped/defective card delivered? Thanks.

First time (normal RMA) I sent mine back in anti-static bubble wrap and anti-static foam in a USPS box then put that in a slightly larger box filled with two inches of paper packing material.  I got back a brand new card in full retail packaging.  Second time (special power balance issue RMA) I sent it back in the full retail packaging inside of another slightly larger box again with two inches of paper.  I once again got a brand new card in full retail packaging in return.

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/07 22:37:45 (permalink)
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For those of you that sent your cards for the power issues RMA, how did you package your cards?
 
And for the 30-day new card replacement, where does 30 day cut off? Is it from the time of purchase to RMA approval/defective card shipped/defective card delivered? Thanks.

First time (normal RMA) I sent mine back in anti-static bubble wrap and anti-static foam in a USPS box then put that in a slightly larger box filled with two inches of paper packing material.  I got back a brand new card in full retail packaging.  Second time (special power balance issue RMA) I sent it back in the full retail packaging inside of another slightly larger box again with two inches of paper.  I once again got a brand new card in full retail packaging in return.


Thank you. I assume for the second time you were out of the 30 day from purchase already? And I thought the black foam in the original package would count as the 2 inch packing material, isn't that the case?
 
I edited my original question to include a GPU-Z screenshot, mind taking a look?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 01:18:21 (permalink)
If you're unsure if your card is suitable for the 1-time RMA, just mail EVGA and send them the screenshots, they will tell you.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 01:45:15 (permalink)
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If you're unsure if your card is suitable for the 1-time RMA, just mail EVGA and send them the screenshots, they will tell you.


I do have an approved RMA for the aforementioned card, just not sure about the hassle of shipping it off. My other card can pull 500 W with no issue, but the PCIe slot power goes over 80 W, will this be a problem in the long run?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 04:32:39 (permalink)
Today I received my card from the special RMA - serial starts with 2119, the FTW3 has red lips.
I saw the EVGA security sticker on the back plate was broken - is that OK or can it be a problem?
 
UPDATE:
It seems that the card is still an old one, because the PCIe Slot Power is still over 78,7 Watt and no new firmware was installed on the OC position (as described by @EVGA_JacobF )
 
Attached you will find a screencopy.
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 05:21:14 (permalink)
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Today I received my card from the special RMA - serial starts with 2119, the FTW3 has red lips.
I saw the EVGA security sticker on the back plate was broken - is that OK or can it be a problem?
 
UPDATE:
It seems that the card is still an old one, because the PCIe Slot Power is still over 78,7 Watt and no new firmware was installed on the OC position (as described by @EVGA_JacobF )
 
Attached you will find a screencopy.
 
 
 


EU or US RMA?
it's complete nonsense when he done!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 05:22:25 (permalink)
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    Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 44 minutes ago (permalink)

    Today I received my card from the special RMA - serial starts with 2119, the FTW3 has red lips.
    I saw the EVGA security sticker on the back plate was broken - is that OK or can it be a problem?
     
    UPDATE:
    It seems that the card is still an old one, because the PCIe Slot Power is still over 78,7 Watt and no new firmware was installed on the OC position (as described by @EVGA_JacobF 
     


     
    I would be you I contact directly
    teampmevga mail to explain the problem.
    Do not forget to tell us what they answered you.
    Frankly this is more and more... catastrophic.
  • By the way, what do you mean by "security sticker on the back plate was broken"?
    Do you have a picture?
  • In addition, some have received 2112 or 2114... and you 2119? ... What country are you in? 
post edited by Dasoa - 2021/04/08 05:30:34
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 05:31:19 (permalink)
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EU or US RMA?
it's complete nonsense when he done!



EU RMA
 
Dasoa
I would be you I contact directly
teampmevga mail to explain the problem.
Do not forget to tell us what they answered you.
Frankly this is more and more... catastrophic.
By the way, what do you mean by "security sticker on the back plate was broken"?
Do you have a picture?

 
3090OC via mail already informed.
Attached you will find a pic from the security sticker.
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 05:39:48 (permalink)
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Raudkast
EU or US RMA?
it's complete nonsense when he done!



EU RMA
 
Dasoa
I would be you I contact directly
teampmevga mail to explain the problem.
Do not forget to tell us what they answered you.
Frankly this is more and more... catastrophic.
By the way, what do you mean by "security sticker on the back plate was broken"?
Do you have a picture?

 
3090OC via mail already informed.
Attached you will find a pic from the security sticker.
 



It's cool when that's done, I don't have enough money to pay 110.-EU for each shipment. My card also in EU RMA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 05:43:18 (permalink)
Some received 2112 or 2114... and you 2119? ..I don't know what 2119 is...
Being in Europe I will receive a 2112 according to my data..
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 08:29:52 (permalink)
Yo guys,
I've got my advanced RMA reply yesterday. I like the straightforward process a lot. Hopefully the replacement card is equipped with the correct voltage controller.
How do I see that?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 08:40:39 (permalink)
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yulinzhang
For those of you that sent your cards for the power issues RMA, how did you package your cards?
 
And for the 30-day new card replacement, where does 30 day cut off? Is it from the time of purchase to RMA approval/defective card shipped/defective card delivered? Thanks.

First time (normal RMA) I sent mine back in anti-static bubble wrap and anti-static foam in a USPS box then put that in a slightly larger box filled with two inches of paper packing material.  I got back a brand new card in full retail packaging.  Second time (special power balance issue RMA) I sent it back in the full retail packaging inside of another slightly larger box again with two inches of paper.  I once again got a brand new card in full retail packaging in return.


Thank you. I assume for the second time you were out of the 30 day from purchase already? And I thought the black foam in the original package would count as the 2 inch packing material, isn't that the case?
 
I edited my original question to include a GPU-Z screenshot, mind taking a look?


Neither of mine were within 30 days.

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 08:42:01 (permalink)
Today I was able to score 15186 in PR with the XC3 BIOS and without ReBar. Although I could use the special RMA, I won't do it. The chances seem to be higher to receive a worse card...
Once Asus will provide a ReBar Bios for z390 Boards, I'll go for the xc3 ReBar vbios and call it a day.
post edited by elbramso - 2021/04/08 08:56:31

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 09:28:22 (permalink)
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Today I was able to score 15186 in PR with the XC3 BIOS and without ReBar. Although I could use the special RMA, I won't do it. The chances seem to be higher to receive a worse card...
Once Asus will provide a ReBar Bios for z390 Boards, I'll go for the xc3 ReBar vbios and call it a day.



You know they aren't just swapping these things in this special program because of performance right?  Have you seen all the failed cards with black screens then red lights of death?

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 10:53:18 (permalink)
Well the official statement is, they swap it because of the power draw not because it may brick in the future.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/08 11:24:17 (permalink)
I just shipped my 3090 FTW3 Ultra next day to EVGA as part of the swap program. Interested to see what the card I get in return can do. My original 3090 was from the first batch of cards. Memory overclocking on it was quite bad as well.
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