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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 14:29:53 (permalink)
Guys the only way for me to not hit power limit is to undervolt to 0.8V, overall tdp will be around 70%.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 15:04:44 (permalink)
whats the max wattage for this? 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 15:28:09 (permalink)
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Anything related to this?
 
PEGx Slot Power Limit Value Value
Sets the upper limit on power supplied by slot.
Power limit (in Watts) is calculated by multiplying this value by the Slot Power Limit Scale.
Values 0-255
PEGx Slot Power Limit Scale 1.0x, 0.1x, 0.01x, 0.001x
 
Or from the Intel 10th gen specification sheet:
 
16:15 0h RW/O Slot Power Limit Scale (SLS): specifies the scale used for the slot power limit value. BIOS sets this field and it remains set until a platform reset.
14:7 00h RW/O Slot Power Limit Value (SLV): Specifies the upper limit (in conjunction with SLS value), on the upper limit on power supplied by the slot. The two values together indicate the amount of power in watts allowed for the slot. BIOS sets this field and it remains set until a platform reset.
 
https://www.intel.com/con...et-vol-2-datasheet.pdf


Ya this would explain why random reboots would change my cards power draw numbers
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 16:55:36 (permalink)
 
For those who are RMAing their original red lip carded, it's no guarantee that you will receive a black lipped card. My Cross Ship RMA came and it is also a red lipped and it's also scratched up on the bracket.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 16:56:35 (permalink)
Likely u got someone elses rma return lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 17:21:31 (permalink)
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Likely u got someone elses rma return lol

Oh I know I did, i see the previous serial number sticker under the new one lol. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 17:28:06 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 17:30:05 (permalink)
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Likely u got someone elses rma return lol

Oh I know I did, i see the previous serial number sticker under the new one lol. 




are you serious lol 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 18:20:49 (permalink)
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Likely u got someone elses rma return lol

Oh I know I did, i see the previous serial number sticker under the new one lol. 




are you serious lol 


Why not, if someone rma returned a card that is working as expected at stock specs it is normal for such cards to be repackaged and redistributed
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 18:44:14 (permalink)
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Likely u got someone elses rma return lol

Oh I know I did, i see the previous serial number sticker under the new one lol. 




are you serious lol 


Why not, if someone rma returned a card that is working as expected at stock specs it is normal for such cards to be repackaged and redistributed



 
Sorry.  I doubt this happened.  By law a retailer and/or manufacturer must sell the item as "refurbished" if the box has been opened.
 
Plus, if your reason for sending it back for "Red Lips" was on your RMA, then it seems odd you would get a duplicate of the same issue.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 19:50:10 (permalink)
Is it safe to update to this Beta Bios OC-Version for 3090 Ultra or will there be a non-beta version soon? I am on Precision x1 1.1.4. with the firmware update coming from 1.1.3
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 20:01:45 (permalink)
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Likely u got someone elses rma return lol

Oh I know I did, i see the previous serial number sticker under the new one lol. 




are you serious lol 


Why not, if someone rma returned a card that is working as expected at stock specs it is normal for such cards to be repackaged and redistributed



 
Sorry.  I doubt this happened.  By law a retailer and/or manufacturer must sell the item as "refurbished" if the box has been opened.
 
Plus, if your reason for sending it back for "Red Lips" was on your RMA, then it seems odd you would get a duplicate of the same issue.


By definition an rma replacement is not considered a sale
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 20:08:57 (permalink)
My unmodded card peaked at 511w in time spy extreme. Excuse the blue light filter.

https://imgur.com/CP7wosB
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 20:46:56 (permalink)
Still wondering why the cards are showing PWR at 75W PCIE when PCIE is supposed to throttle at 82.5W in the vbios.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 21:05:56 (permalink)
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Still wondering why the cards are showing PWR at 75W PCIE when PCIE is supposed to throttle at 82.5W in the vbios.

/Shrug

Depending on reboot i either hit power or vrel or both with a total system draw of just over 1000w (oh and obviously thermal atm with the slider maxed out lol)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 21:11:51 (permalink)
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Still wondering why the cards are showing PWR at 75W PCIE when PCIE is supposed to throttle at 82.5W in the vbios.


Dunno, but with the 2-pin XC3 VBIOS, my normally heavily power limited card is drawing over 500W. This bad boy running CP2077 at 4K ultra RT preset with DLSS set to balanced at mid 50 to 60 FPS (thank you Gsync!) at 2100MHz. With any other VBIOS, I'm lucky to get around 1950Mhz (except in the menu), and I have to change the DLSS preset to auto to get about the same FPS (and get the weird swirlies with multiple straight lines in close proximity on the floor/road).
 
It's likely a hardware choice that EVGA made since all other VBIOSs don't change the PCIE power draw from being so high, other than the XC3 VBIOS. So, something tells me that EVGA wrote this one off since they've not bothered letting us know what they found - and they DO already know. Again, probably because it was their own design/hardware choice that did this.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 21:27:10 (permalink)
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Likely u got someone elses rma return lol

Oh I know I did, i see the previous serial number sticker under the new one lol. 




are you serious lol 


Why not, if someone rma returned a card that is working as expected at stock specs it is normal for such cards to be repackaged and redistributed


Yeah my rma replacement works well, just sucks that I baby my original one that’s like mint condition and the other rma I got is all scratched up and looks like they just slapped it together
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 21:30:30 (permalink)
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Kylearan
Still wondering why the cards are showing PWR at 75W PCIE when PCIE is supposed to throttle at 82.5W in the vbios.


Dunno, but with the 2-pin XC3 VBIOS, my normally heavily power limited card is drawing over 500W. This bad boy running CP2077 at 4K ultra RT preset with DLSS set to balanced at mid 50 to 60 FPS (thank you Gsync!) at 2100MHz. With any other VBIOS, I'm lucky to get around 1950Mhz (except in the menu), and I have to change the DLSS preset to auto to get about the same FPS (and get the weird swirlies with multiple straight lines in close proximity on the floor/road).
 
It's likely a hardware choice that EVGA made since all other VBIOSs don't change the PCIE power draw from being so high, other than the XC3 VBIOS. So, something tells me that EVGA wrote this one off since they've not bothered letting us know what they found - and they DO already know. Again, probably because it was their own design/hardware choice that did this.
Ok, so is the solution to just run the XC3 bios? All I care about is great game performance, not benchmarking. Which exact bios do I install, and is it just a simple flash? No ill effects?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 22:14:14 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/16 23:48:23 (permalink)
Can i use the oc-bios for the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid too??

EDIT: Ok, i found the answer! :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 03:23:41 (permalink)
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Kylearan
Still wondering why the cards are showing PWR at 75W PCIE when PCIE is supposed to throttle at 82.5W in the vbios.


Dunno, but with the 2-pin XC3 VBIOS, my normally heavily power limited card is drawing over 500W. This bad boy running CP2077 at 4K ultra RT preset with DLSS set to balanced at mid 50 to 60 FPS (thank you Gsync!) at 2100MHz. With any other VBIOS, I'm lucky to get around 1950Mhz (except in the menu), and I have to change the DLSS preset to auto to get about the same FPS (and get the weird swirlies with multiple straight lines in close proximity on the floor/road).
 
It's likely a hardware choice that EVGA made since all other VBIOSs don't change the PCIE power draw from being so high, other than the XC3 VBIOS. So, something tells me that EVGA wrote this one off since they've not bothered letting us know what they found - and they DO already know. Again, probably because it was their own design/hardware choice that did this.


Glad to hear you are able to get your card working.
My card is very power limited. Pcie always hits 82w~.
Can I have the link for the exact bios so I can give it a shot.
 
Im surprised that evga hasn't said anything yet. Didnt expect that we would have to be dealing with this situation still or even in the first place..
 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 04:22:06 (permalink)
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Kylearan
Still wondering why the cards are showing PWR at 75W PCIE when PCIE is supposed to throttle at 82.5W in the vbios.

Dunno, but with the 2-pin XC3 VBIOS, my normally heavily power limited card is drawing over 500W. This bad boy running CP2077 at 4K ultra RT preset with DLSS set to balanced at mid 50 to 60 FPS (thank you Gsync!) at 2100MHz. With any other VBIOS, I'm lucky to get around 1950Mhz (except in the menu), and I have to change the DLSS preset to auto to get about the same FPS (and get the weird swirlies with multiple straight lines in close proximity on the floor/road).
 
It's likely a hardware choice that EVGA made since all other VBIOSs don't change the PCIE power draw from being so high, other than the XC3 VBIOS. So, something tells me that EVGA wrote this one off since they've not bothered letting us know what they found - and they DO already know. Again, probably because it was their own design/hardware choice that did this.



My PR scores were much higher on XC3 BIOS as well but I went back to stock for now.
 
How do you know how much power the card is drawing on XC3 with the power monitors broken? 
 
I really wonder if it is safe to run this XC3 BIOS on the FTW3 Hybrid long term. I'm high on the list for a KP for the second list, I'm wondering if I should just trade up to that or if it would be worth it with the XC3 BIOS. Not a big benchmarker, just want max FPS in games.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 05:15:49 (permalink)
After the BIOS update for my EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming I get only a power draw of 420-428 Watt (test was done with SOTTR benchmark) - far away from 500 Watt. With my previous tested Asus Strix I got around 480 Watt with the same benchmark.
 
I would like to test the previous BIOS of my FTW3 but I don't saved them before the update :-(.
Does someone have the BIOS version 94.02.26.48.15 and 94.02.26.48.16 for the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming?
 
Thanks!
 
 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 05:27:46 (permalink)
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After the BIOS update for my EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming I get only a power draw of 420-428 Watt (test was done with SOTTR benchmark) - far away from 500 Watt. With my previous tested Asus Strix I got around 480 Watt with the same benchmark.
 
I would like to test the previous BIOS of my FTW3 but I don't saved them before the update :-(.
Does someone have the BIOS version 94.02.26.48.15 and 94.02.26.48.16 for the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming?
 
Thanks!
 



Can you be specific on what update you are talking about? XOC? You can find the bios versions on techpowerup. Read the descriptions, they are all there.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 06:52:09 (permalink)
I'm using X1 1.1.4 with the new firmware along with the XOC OC Bios on my FTW3 Ultra and in Time Spy Extreme the most I saw was 478 for just a second. Most of the time its hovering right at 450. GPU-z says pwr limited most of the time regardless of anything over 400 watts.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 07:01:41 (permalink)
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I'm using X1 1.1.4 with the new firmware along with the XOC OC Bios on my FTW3 Ultra and in Time Spy Extreme the most I saw was 478 for just a second. Most of the time its hovering right at 450. GPU-z says pwr limited most of the time regardless of anything over 400 watts.




With 119% power limit on XOC, I was seeing around 440 playing DOOM Eternal and roughly the same in Port Royal/RTX testing. Maybe 450 for a flash. PWR limited, 82W PCI-E.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 07:06:04 (permalink)
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I'm using X1 1.1.4 with the new firmware along with the XOC OC Bios on my FTW3 Ultra and in Time Spy Extreme the most I saw was 478 for just a second. Most of the time its hovering right at 450. GPU-z says pwr limited most of the time regardless of anything over 400 watts.




With 119% power limit on XOC, I was seeing around 440 playing DOOM Eternal and roughly the same in Port Royal/RTX testing. Maybe 450 for a flash. PWR limited, 82W PCI-E.




Yeah I'm getting about the same playing Assassin's creed Valhalla. The weirdest thing to me though, is that I'm seeing a major difference in clock speeds depending on my reboot. like 150mhz difference with the same overclock applied....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 07:28:34 (permalink)
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Yeah I'm getting about the same playing Assassin's creed Valhalla. The weirdest thing to me though, is that I'm seeing a major difference in clock speeds depending on my reboot. like 150mhz difference with the same overclock applied....




I'm seeing some of the same things. I have NO idea why my card downclocks so aggressively when the core temps are in the mid to upper 40s. The highest my card gets is like 56C, and it still throttles especially on benchmarks. It did not do this nearly as aggressively with XC3 bios.
 
Why make a hybrid card and not let it stretch its legs? It should be able to hold 2100 mhz or at least consistently 2050+ on these benches, considering the low temps. I'm sorta pissed.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 07:35:18 (permalink)
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After the BIOS update for my EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming I get only a power draw of 420-428 Watt (test was done with SOTTR benchmark) - far away from 500 Watt. With my previous tested Asus Strix I got around 480 Watt with the same benchmark.
 
I would like to test the previous BIOS of my FTW3 but I don't saved them before the update :-(.
Does someone have the BIOS version 94.02.26.48.15 and 94.02.26.48.16 for the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming?
 
Thanks!
 



Can you be specific on what update you are talking about? XOC? You can find the bios versions on techpowerup. Read the descriptions, they are all there.




Yes, I updated to YOC BIOS and I would like to test the previous installed BIOS version 94.02.26.48.15 and 94.02.26.48.16. Unfortunately both versions are not available for download at techpowerup :-(


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/17 07:45:16 (permalink)
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Yes, I updated to YOC BIOS and I would like to test the previous installed BIOS version 94.02.26.48.15 and 94.02.26.48.16. Unfortunately both versions are not available for download at techpowerup :-(



Check the "non-verified" postings. Might be on there. I backed up my Stock OC BIOS for Hybrid FTW3 i can send if you need it.

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