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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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changboy Do you realize buy doing all those change of bios and els and take many hours by test and test you can gain a .5fps at 4k ? Some of you stuck on this and become crazy at the end ! Comon guys a port royal score of 14200 vs 15200 can give you a gain of 2fps at 4k gaming ! And if you play at 1080p then you bought the wrong gpu. If i have 45 fps in cyberpunk will i notice it if i have 46.5fps ? ENJOY UR STUFF and ur games with this beast card. Stop asking urself wrong thing while you own the most powerfull gpu in the solar system lol. Peace
I'm not a big gamer so the FPS don't matter to me as much as the benchmark, I enjoy building the PC, making it look rad inside design wise, and getting it to run with stable overclocks. The port royal score is the part that I like. I have more work to do, I haven't even touched the CPU yet. But it's cool my card is suddenly behaving like I expected. I hope to see it overclock a little better when my waterblock comes in January. I'm going to try and get a modest overclock on the cpu and gpu and then push it further when water parts come. In the meantime I'm going to start braiding the cables how I like them, and work on cleaning up the insides, maybe add some decorative stuff modifications. I might play cyberpunk though, I guess it does look pretty interesting. Not sure if I have the time for it right now. I do use the card for loading very large models for work occasionally, and it has been an awesome upgrade to my 1080TI, some models I was running out of memory on are working great now.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 18:27:49
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Is this going to come out of beta?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 18:33:14
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andressergio here bro just downlad the XC3 Ultra BIOS: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?manufacturer=EVGA&model=RTX+3090 If you gonna use XC3 BIOS DON'T install PX1 New versions other than 1.1.1 like I did with 1.2.0 as it will flash the XC3 Ultra Firmware that's NOT compatible with the FTW3 and will brick the Led part and more. As for the procedure you have 2 switches, one for the Normal BIOS and one for the OC BIOS, in the OC BIOS I had the XC3 where I caused the problem and on the Normal BIOS I had the XOC FTW3. What I did was flash FTW3 Original BIOS and downgrade PX1 to 1.1.1, then upgrade to 1.2.0 again and after that he prompted me to install the FTW3 Firmware, then again downgraded to 1.1.1 that is the version I'm using and both BIOS back to normal Thanks God. Any questions I'm happy to reply. Cheers, Sergio.
Ahh, I see, thank you Sergio. So you can't use PX1 with the XC3 bios then right? When I tried the XC3 BIOS, I did not select to update and it would just close after. I used MSI afterburner instead.
Sure you can but till ver 1.1.1 newer versions will flash a Firmware that will brick you card and you will have to go to a process to correct it, in my case i did it, others couldn't. If you flash XC3 BIOS use it and if promps to update the firmware install an older version so far the best I've tried is the 1.1.1. Cheers!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 18:41:10
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changboy Do you realize buy doing all those change of bios and els and take many hours by test and test you can gain a .5fps at 4k ? Some of you stuck on this and become crazy at the end ! Comon guys a port royal score of 14200 vs 15200 can give you a gain of 2fps at 4k gaming ! And if you play at 1080p then you bought the wrong gpu. If i have 45 fps in cyberpunk will i notice it if i have 46.5fps ? ENJOY UR STUFF and ur games with this beast card. Stop asking urself wrong thing while you own the most powerfull gpu in the solar system lol. Peace
are u running AMD to get those FPS lol?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 18:41:35
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glocked89 Can you check gpuz sensors after you do a port royal run?
Here's the run 3dmark dot com/pr/641714 (Sorry not sure if I can link the URL properly it keeps removing it) Here's about what GPUZ says when I drag my mouse across the little graphs. Temp (72-73 Deg) GPU Clock (2010-2055) Memory Clock (1244.5) Board power (470-490) GPU Chip Power Draw (280-299) Power SRC Power Draw (108-109) PCI Slot (74-75) 8 Pin Power (128-135) 8 pin #2 PWR (128-135) 8 pin #3 PWR (120-130)
Appreciate it. Yeah your clocks are solid. I have difficulty going over 2000mhz since I'm power limited to 420. Thought we were on to something there though with the type of mobo used.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 18:42:57
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jollib Both my msi pro a z390 and my x570 aorus elite was only able to draw 450w max. Xoc bios does do something at least. Before the bios the max I would get is 410 420w. My pci express slot does get north of 75w on both systems. Anyone know if there is a way to limit it via software instead of hardware modding. For those people that have it working what motherboards are you running.
Running on a EVGA Z490 Dark and I am getting power limited off the PCIe slot with the XOC bios. Any other Dark users having it work?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 19:29:07
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Then dont use gsych and just vertical synchro, this is what i do in game with lower then 60fps with my oled C8 and i dont have any problem. You actually create ur own problem. BTW i use a [link=mailto:10980xe@4.9ghz]10980xe@4.9ghz[/link] and in cyberpunk at 4k ultra -spycho and dlss to quality fps is 40-50 fps with no dlss its 20-22 fps lol. amd or intel wont change anything in this hehehe unless you have intel E-8500 dual core
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 22:05:37
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I know it has no sense what I'm going to say... but anyone has noticed any difference in temps with XOC bios vs stock bios, using both at stock clocks? Maybe it's just placebo, but I feel XOC without overlock is running like 4...5 degrees colder than stock. not big deal, or maybe just coincidence... but i wanted to share it :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 22:07:48
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I am getting the FTW3 Ultra Hybrid so do I just use the FTW3 Ultra Bios or the bottom Hybrid bios?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 23:04:04
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You say in a year these cards will be obsolete when they release cards like every 4+ years?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 01:14:04
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 05:53:13
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So I got my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid installed, gonna do some testing on each individual BIOS before I go the XOC Beta BIOS route. What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go. For the moment, running at stock on the Normal BIOS, this thing definitely runs cooling, idling at 22C regardless of what my ambient is - it's been as high as 72F & as low as 68F since I installed it, and the card idles at 22C regardless, which is insane! And of course, the kicker & great thing is, I don't have any pump noise issues, it is not audible at all over the other fans and CPU AIO in my system.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 06:43:26
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How are the temps under load? And what loads do you run?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 07:32:46
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vlcapata How are the temps under load? And what loads do you run?
I doubt it as his MHz is way low. Likely sitting on desktop
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 07:45:48
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Dabadger84 What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go.
You could give the OC Scan utility in PX1 a shot to get a sense of where your card is at and tweak from there. My air cooled 3090 FTW3 Ultra is at +138/+250 and has been rock solid (XOC BIOS). I haven’t tried to push it much beyond that yet.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 07:46:43
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vlcapata How are the temps under load? And what loads do you run?
Load so far I've seen 45-57C depending on the clocks & load I'm running. I'll be playing Cyberpunk after I get done with some undervolting fiddling. tobincake1471
Dabadger84 What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go.
You could give the OC Scan utility in PX1 a shot to get a sense of where your card is at and tweak from there. My air cooled 3090 FTW3 Ultra is at +138/+250 and has been rock solid (XOC BIOS). I haven’t tried to push it much beyond that yet.
Did that indeed, it spit out 113/200, I tried 105/200 actual settings & it ran perfectly fine for a pass of PR. Just did a run at 2040MHz @ 981mV set in Afterburner, it only hit 2025MHz during the test, but I got 14119, while only hitting 52C at the end of the test, and no power limiting going on, only hit 422W draw - I call that a win :-P Gonna take the dive & try the XOC BIOS I suppose, hopefully I don't regret it :-P
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 07:49:01
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EVGA_JacobF EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 NOTE: There are 2 BIOS's, one is for the BIOS when switched to the normal stock position, the other if switched to the OC position If you wish to go back to the Default BIOS you can find them below: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA Default BIOS - BIOS 1 (Normal) | BIOS 2 (OC) EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Default BIOS - BIOS 1 (Normal) | BIOS 2 (OC)
Do we have a copy of the FTW3 Hybrid original BIOS in case I want to go back to it, or should I back it up first? Gonna go ahead & do so with GPUz, just to be on the safe side.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 08:00:32
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Dabadger84 So I got my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid installed, gonna do some testing on each individual BIOS before I go the XOC Beta BIOS route. What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go. For the moment, running at stock on the Normal BIOS, this thing definitely runs cooling, idling at 22C regardless of what my ambient is - it's been as high as 72F & as low as 68F since I installed it, and the card idles at 22C regardless, which is insane! And of course, the kicker & great thing is, I don't have any pump noise issues, it is not audible at all over the other fans and CPU AIO in my system.
On my 3090 FTW3 air I was able to run PR and TS benches at +190 core and +250 mem. Sometimes +300 mem. On my 3090 FTW3 hybrid I'm able to go +135 core and +250 mem. Port RoyalHybrid (14,158) : https://www.3dmark.com/pr/636640Air (13,952): https://www.3dmark.com/pr/616458 Time SpyHybrid (21,392 GPU score) : https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16270620Air (20,806): https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16074644 Max temps I see are 55 C, but averaging 50 C with benchmarks. Was getting 70 - 80 C with air FTW3. I've been stable with +90 core/250 mem in Cyberpunk @ 4K. Core clock boost to 2055-2070. It'll crash with the +135 core - haven't tried anything in between yet. I'm pulling 470 watts typically and have hit 480 a few times with TS. Edit: I've installed the rad with intake air. My cpu rad is now exhaust.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 08:02:51
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Dabadger84 Do we have a copy of the FTW3 Hybrid original BIOS in case I want to go back to it, or should I back it up first? Gonna go ahead & do so with GPUz, just to be on the safe side.
Nothing yet. I only loaded the XOC OC bios and left the "Normal" bios as stock.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 08:30:15
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Dabadger84 So I got my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid installed, gonna do some testing on each individual BIOS before I go the XOC Beta BIOS route. What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go. For the moment, running at stock on the Normal BIOS, this thing definitely runs cooling, idling at 22C regardless of what my ambient is - it's been as high as 72F & as low as 68F since I installed it, and the card idles at 22C regardless, which is insane!
And of course, the kicker & great thing is, I don't have any pump noise issues, it is not audible at all over the other fans and CPU AIO in my system.
Hi again! Slapped the hybrid kit on and the highest I've hit was 52c hammering it with a 4k furmark. I'm super power limited to 450w though even though I flashed to the XOC Hybrid bios. In cyberpunk at 4k, with a voltage/freq curve I can manage 1980mhz at 49-50c, still super power limited. Hope you fare better!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 09:22:16
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Dabadger84 So I got my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid installed, gonna do some testing on each individual BIOS before I go the XOC Beta BIOS route. What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go. For the moment, running at stock on the Normal BIOS, this thing definitely runs cooling, idling at 22C regardless of what my ambient is - it's been as high as 72F & as low as 68F since I installed it, and the card idles at 22C regardless, which is insane!
And of course, the kicker & great thing is, I don't have any pump noise issues, it is not audible at all over the other fans and CPU AIO in my system.
Hi again! Slapped the hybrid kit on and the highest I've hit was 52c hammering it with a 4k furmark. I'm super power limited to 450w though even though I flashed to the XOC Hybrid bios. In cyberpunk at 4k, with a voltage/freq curve I can manage 1980mhz at 49-50c, still super power limited. Hope you fare better!
Yea, it's pretty much due to the PCB design. These cards are incapable of hitting 500W without shunt modding due to design. Anyone hitting 500W does so for a brief blip and then it drops back down. Never stays at or close to 500W. Dabadger84 Do we have a copy of the FTW3 Hybrid original BIOS in case I want to go back to it, or should I back it up first? Gonna go ahead & do so with GPUz, just to be on the safe side.
I uploaded mine to TechPowerup via GPU-Z about 2 weeks ago.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 09:30:01
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JonnyVee Nothing yet. I only loaded the XOC OC bios and left the "Normal" bios as stock.
That's what I did with my 3080, doing the same with this card. So far I gave 2040MHz @ 981mV a go and it passed Port Royal at least, saw a nice score out of it (actually ran 2025MHz most of the benchmark, but close enough) and more importantly, load temp was only 52C at the end. I'll be messing with it more later, right now I think I'm gonna dive in to some games ^_^
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 09:34:17
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JonnyVee Nothing yet. I only loaded the XOC OC bios and left the "Normal" bios as stock.
That's what I did with my 3080, doing the same with this card. So far I gave 2040MHz @ 981mV a go and it passed Port Royal at least, saw a nice score out of it (actually ran 2025MHz most of the benchmark, but close enough) and more importantly, load temp was only 52C at the end. I'll be messing with it more later, right now I think I'm gonna dive in to some games ^_^
I'm hoping someone spends the time to mod the Hybrid cooler to a 360mm rad. IMO the rads should be cool or barely warm to the touch. Unless you have fans at 100% the radiator gets too warm IMO.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/15 09:41:43
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LVNeptune IMO the rads should be cool or barely warm to the touch.
they can be if mounting another 2 fans on the 240 for a push-pull. this drops temps up to another 10C depending on your delta ambient
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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LVNeptune IMO the rads should be cool or barely warm to the touch.
they can be if mounting another 2 fans on the 240 for a push-pull. this drops temps up to another 10C depending on your delta ambient
Interesting. I might try that. I have a couple static air pressure fans I can run to the splitter for the other fans.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Dabadger84 Do we have a copy of the FTW3 Hybrid original BIOS in case I want to go back to it, or should I back it up first? Gonna go ahead & do so with GPUz, just to be on the safe side.
Nothing yet. I only loaded the XOC OC bios and left the "Normal" bios as stock.
Did you make a post then immediately delete it? I see the email with your content but the post is gone. JonnyVee So I got my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid installed, gonna do some testing on each individual BIOS before I go the XOC Beta BIOS route.
What sort of clocks are y'all seeing in general for OCs on the regular FTW3 Ultra? Just looking to get a ballpark of offsets, so I can start a bit on the low side, then see how high she can go.
For the moment, running at stock on the Normal BIOS, this thing definitely runs cooling, idling at 22C regardless of what my ambient is - it's been as high as 72F & as low as 68F since I installed it, and the card idles at 22C regardless, which is insane!
And of course, the kicker & great thing is, I don't have any pump noise issues, it is not audible at all over the other fans and CPU AIO in my system.
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On my 3090 FTW3 air I was able to run PR and TS benches at +190 core and +250 mem. Sometimes +300 mem.
On my 3090 FTW3 hybrid I'm able to go +135 core and +250 mem.
Port Royal Hybrid (14,158) :https://www.3dmark.com/pr/636640 Air (13,952):https://www.3dmark.com/pr/616458
Time Spy Hybrid (21,392 GPU score) :https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16270620 Air (20,806):https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16074644
Max temps I see are 55 C, but averaging 50 C with benchmarks. Was getting 70 - 80 C with air FTW3.
I've been stable with +90 core/250 mem in Cyberpunk @ 4K. Core clock boost to 2055-2070. It'll crash with the +135 core - haven't tried anything in between yet.
I'm pulling 470 watts typically and have hit 480 a few times with TS.
Edit: I've installed the rad with int
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Did you make a post then immediately delete it? I see the email with your content but the post is gone.
Just the two posts.
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LVNeptune
Did you make a post then immediately delete it? I see the email with your content but the post is gone.
Just the two posts.
Oh weird it came through much later made it look newer than the rest.
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