Do I need to flash to the Hybrid Bios when I install my Hybrid kit onto my 3090 FTW3 Ultra?
 

dam_j
"they don´t see a need to answer"
 
With now 2866 listings to this thread in there own support forum ?!
Sorry, but even if this got fixed anytime next year this was my last EVGA card...
 
Already looking for an alternative, but getting a 3090 in germany is really hard right now.
 
At this point, is the 3090FE even worse or a good alternative to buy ??
 

3090 FE needs a backplate side thermal pad rework (pretty much all samples do--you can use Thermalright Odyssey 1.5mm for both sides and PCB hotspots no problem, this includes VRAM Also!), but is shunt mod friendly.  Some of the issues stopping other boards from exceeding 530W shunted (e.g. with PNY reference) don't seem to happen with the FE.  You can rework the thermal pads like this.
https://i.imgur.com/Jx4IuqL.png
https://i.imgur.com/ttF7Nla.jpg
If you have an official 12 pin PSU cable (Seasonic, Corsair, BeQuiet, EVGA, etc), you can mod all the shunts with 5 mOhm stacked shunts for 700W TDP.  It's best to scrape the conformal coating off the silver edges of the shunts before modding, with a tiny flat blade screwdriver.  Just be careful of the edges of shunts being lower than the middle as that causes contact issues, especially with MG 842AR silver paint (8 pin #1 shunt is the hardest to get to because a choke is right next to one of the conductive edges).
 
A good protip to modding is to use Kapton tape around shunts if you are soldering (this is very helpful), or Super 33+ electrical tape if you are doing a paint mod (no soldering).

Sorry if this has been answered before but is the 500w bios compatible with the 3090 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING? It just says 3090 FTW3 HYBRID Beside the download link so I just wanted to make sure. Part # 24G-P5-3988-KR

sk11vengeance
Sorry if this has been answered before but is the 500w bios compatible with the 3090 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING? It just says 3090 FTW3 HYBRID Beside the download link so I just wanted to make sure. Part # 24G-P5-3988-KR

Same thing I'm wondering. Wanted to know if I need to move to the hybrid bios from my normal 3090 ftw3 ultra one.
 

Or pump speed may be controlled by the bios but either way, it seems like you need to change to hybrid bios.

I did. No mention of bios.

DarkTAO

green4191
I did. No mention of bios.

Well we asked in chat several times. Got missed. Ah well. Hopefully we'll get an answer soonish. 
 

If you're waiting on support (or EVGA's Jacob) to comment here, you're likely going to be waiting a very, very long time.
 
Call or email EVGA and ask them directly: https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/ 

shoumpavlis
How are the noise levels on this card? 

 
Pretty good. To be honest, I'm probably not the best test case for noise as I have in the order of 13 Gentle Typhoon fans running and so I can't hear the card until it hits around 80% fan speed (Which it never does under normal load, I have to force that speed).
 
I'm waiting on my water block to arrive to integrate it into my custom loop. Loaded the 500W BIOS last night and while it still says power limited, it's hitting around 480W with spikes up into the 490W range. Interestingly enough, the power draw was higher when I left the fan speed on auto, consistently in the 490W range but then forcing 100% fan speed it dropped by around 10W. Unsure if the fans are counted in total board power draw or if temp reductions were playing some part.

It's SO sad to read EVGA replying to others about that they know the issue but they are too bussy selling other cards but NOT paying attention to solve this problems with the ones we have the FTW3 Ultra Gaming, even the Hybrid XOC has the same issues so honestly I don't understand them and RMA don't solve anything.
 
I've been a EVGA user for years and this is very SAD.

The fans are counted in total board power. At 100 percent fans it's about 11 watts. Also lighting.

Question, does everyone who complains about this card and  wants to send it in for RMA to get a new one because the 500W bios doesn't work actually play anything, or is this about some crazy WOF score?
I have Taiwan 2014 card and it does ok in all the benchmarks +85gpu and +1000mem. Doesn't hit 500W in anything but makes all my VR sim driving titles smooth AF where my 2080ti struggled. 
97 pages and a lot of complaints that  the card can't reach a certain PR score... kind of silly no,  When guys are soldering scarp onto their card to get a better score?  


In a year these cards will be obsolete anyway. Just enjoy what you have. I seriously doubt any of the other cards on the market are drastically better in performance in actual games than
this card. A couple FPS over another card is stupid anyway. you won't notice it. Can someone can tell me that any Asus, MSI, Gigabyte... or whatever is better in sustaining playable  VR framerates that are WAY above these EVGA cards, I don't think there is though...
 

fragility_V1
I gotta say, I was skeptical of using the XC3 Bios, but gave me a noticeably better score in Port Royal. 
 
Settings of +120 on GPU clock with boost lock, 80% on voltage, +1200 on mem:
With XOC bios netted a PR score of ~14045 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/630391
Same setting with the XC3 bios ~14,416 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/629943
 
Clocks with the XOC bios averaged around 1930 MHz, while with the XC3 bios was 2079 MHz.
 
Power draw behavior in BR was a bit weird under the XC3 bios (probably because XC3 doesn't have the third 8-pin).  But card was power limited showing a draw of ~300W and pulling ~160W on the #2 8-pin.   (300W seems low)
 
Under XOC, was still power limited around 410W peak, usually around 400W.  At most pulling around 120W on the #1 8-pin and decreasing on each of the other two 8-pins.
 
May try flashing back to stock OC or normal FTW3 tomorrow and see what happens, but tonight it's Cyberpunk on the XC3 bios!

As it's been said over and over - the XC3 VBIOS bugs out the power readings. They won't be accurate when reading them from software.
 
You'll need an UPS or other power measuring device to measure power draw from the wall to see the rough increase from the stock/XOC VBIOS.
 

digitalmonk
Question, does everyone who complains about this card and  wants to send it in for RMA to get a new one because the 500W bios doesn't work actually play anything, or is this about some crazy WOF score?
I have Taiwan 2014 card and it does ok in all the benchmarks +85gpu and +1000mem. Doesn't hit 500W in anything but makes all my VR sim driving titles smooth AF where my 2080ti struggled. 
97 pages and a lot of complaints that  the card can't reach a certain PR score... kind of silly no,  When guys are soldering scarp onto their card to get a better score?  


In a year these cards will be obsolete anyway. Just enjoy what you have. I seriously doubt any of the other cards on the market are drastically better in performance in actual games than
this card. A couple FPS over another card is stupid anyway. you won't notice it. Can someone can tell me that any Asus, MSI, Gigabyte... or whatever is better in sustaining playable  VR framerates that are WAY above these EVGA cards, I don't think there is though...
 

 
People are angry because their nice, shiny, very expensive cards are power limited. Likely because of some design (flaw, or on purpose?) choice that EVGA made that makes the majority of 3090 FTW3 cards pull 75+ watts from the PCIE socket, therefor power limiting them well before the card should be.
 
I can fire up the valley benchmark and get power limited at 400W on the XOC or Kingpin VBIOS. Or strix 480W VBIOS. Or, I can flash the 2 power pin XC3 VBIOS and bug out the power readings, and the card drops the power limit and can hold high voltage and high clocks. How much higher? 1920 to 1950MHz seems to be the fastest I can get with most new games with the Kingpin or XOC VBIOS. 2040 to 2100Mhz is what the XC3 VBIOS can average. This is on air, and will likely improve once I get the Hybrid cooler on it.

arestavo
 
As it's been said over and over - the XC3 VBIOS bugs out the power readings. They won't be accurate when reading them from software.
 
You'll need an UPS or other power measuring device to measure power draw from the wall to see the rough increase from the stock/XOC VBIOS.
 

 
Didn't feel like going through 90+pages of mainly worthless posts, difficult to boil it down to a concise summary of what's going on and what the recommended workaround is.  Thanks for confirming this is a known issue.

Quick question - how do you gauge if a memory overclock is safe on this card? Thanks.

Seems there's a bit of a bug/issue going around in these parts, I have a 3090 FTW3 Hybrid on the way, what's the haps folks?  The PCIe slot drawing more than spec still an issue on the newer batches, anything else crop up?
 

mavortium
Quick question - how do you gauge if a memory overclock is safe on this card? Thanks.

 
A good way to test vRAM OCing is to use something like Port Royal (because it's fast & spits out a number that's comparable run to run for the most part), keep bumping it until the score starts going back down, then adjust it downward a few %, and run a more thorough test suite (Valley, FireStrike, TimeSpy, real games, etc) & see how it goes.