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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Any help I flashed the FTW3 Ultra BIOS again but PX1 Firmware is Still from XC3 :/
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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andressergio Just i suspected it bricked my BIOS i tried to put XC3 BIOS again but I guess it's PX1 Firmware how do I fix this? Red led is near the PCIe 3x 8pin :/ Thank You!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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So I just updated the OC bios and getting about 412 to 420 on +120 clock have not tried to go any higher yet on the OC. Also has anybody been able to get the precision OC scanner to work it fails ever single time for me.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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asmodyus So I just updated the OC bios and getting about 412 to 420 on +120 clock have not tried to go any higher yet on the OC. Also has anybody been able to get the precision OC scanner to work it fails ever single time for me.
The OC scanner worked for me, but each time I try after the clock has gone down. Started at +157 and re-ran last night and was only +80 with the xoc bios. I'm currently stable at +135 though.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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asmodyus So I just updated the OC bios and getting about 412 to 420 on +120 clock have not tried to go any higher yet on the OC. Also has anybody been able to get the precision OC scanner to work it fails ever single time for me.
The OC scanner worked for me, but each time I try after the clock has gone down. Started at +157 and re-ran last night and was only +80 with the xoc bios. I'm currently stable at +135 though.
Yeah the EVGA and MSI oc scanner does not work for me they both fail or crash. But card is works good getting about 50FPS+ on 4k with Ultra setting and Quality DLSS tunred on in Cyberpunk 2077. So might just keep raising it till it becomes unstable. What have you guys been getting on your ram?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 10:56:57
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andressergio Solved it Thank You!!!
Can you share what you did in case others encounter this? How did you fix it? What bricked your card? XC3 BIOS? Or something else?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Did some playing around with the strix I ordered to compare to my ftw3. I found that rolling back to the October driver gave me an increase of around 300+ points so I would advise to bench on earlier drivers for sure if you want comparable results. So far the strix is waxing the floor with the ftw3. Obviously this has everything to do with the fact I can’t clear 435W on any ftw3 bios. But I’m darn tempted to just keep the strix and sell the ftw3. And I personally hate asus bc of the support structure and love evga.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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superkyle1721 Did some playing around with the strix I ordered to compare to my ftw3. I found that rolling back to the October driver gave me an increase of around 300+ points so I would advise to bench on earlier drivers for sure if you want comparable results. So far the strix is waxing the floor with the ftw3. Obviously this has everything to do with the fact I can’t clear 435W on any ftw3 bios. But I’m darn tempted to just keep the strix and sell the ftw3. And I personally hate asus bc of the support structure and love evga.
Yeah Every report is showing the Strix is waxing the floor but there almost impossible to get to the other ones you cannot get lol. At this point I will probably buy the Strix if ever possible and sell the EVGA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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I think the ftw3 is equal “if” the power draw is figured out. My ftw3 was pulling about 78W through pcie. Strix is pulling 45W while obtaining 479W peaks. Happy to do any testing people want while I have both cards in my possession.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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superkyle1721 I think the ftw3 is equal “if” the power draw is figured out. My ftw3 was pulling about 78W through pcie. Strix is pulling 45W while obtaining 479W peaks. Happy to do any testing people want while I have both cards in my possession.
Was also Hearing that people were getting higher clocks with the Strix but I am guessing this is in correspondence to the increase in power draw the Strix is able to obtain.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 11:52:25
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Obviously silicon lottery has a lot to do with it for sure. For my cards the ftw actually clocks to higher boost target than the strix but once it’s loaded and per limit is set it drops quite a bit below the strix. That’s why I think the ftw has potential to hold the crown but needs the bios fixed to do so.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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superkyle1721 Obviously silicon lottery has a lot to do with it for sure. For my cards the ftw actually clocks to higher boost target than the strix but once it’s loaded and per limit is set it drops quite a bit below the strix. That’s why I think the ftw has potential to hold the crown but needs the bios fixed to do so.
I don't think the BIOS is the issue. If you flash the FTW3 500W Bios on the Strix and get 50W PCIE Slot draw, while on the FTW3 its 75W and throttling at 450W, then it's not the BIOS causing the problem. It's the actual hardware on the board itself. If it were a simple BIOS problem, you could recompile a fix by changing a few lines of code in a couple of days... It's also worth noting the Asus doesn't have fuses (afaik) while the eVGA does, but the evga bios also works on the MSI boards (which also have fuses) so that's not the issue. Something onboard just has the power ratio from the 8 pins to PCIE slot just wrong (not drawing enough from one of the 8 pins and drawing too much from PCIE, almost like that 8 pin's missing power is being put on the Slot instead.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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andressergio Solved it Thank You!!!
Can you share what you did in case others encounter this? How did you fix it? What bricked your card? XC3 BIOS? Or something else?
here bro just downlad the XC3 Ultra BIOS: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?manufacturer=EVGA&model=RTX+3090
If you gonna use XC3 BIOS DON'T install PX1 New versions other than 1.1.1 like I did with 1.2.0 as it will flash the XC3 Ultra Firmware that's NOT compatible with the FTW3 and will brick the Led part and more. As for the procedure you have 2 switches, one for the Normal BIOS and one for the OC BIOS, in the OC BIOS I had the XC3 where I caused the problem and on the Normal BIOS I had the XOC FTW3. What I did was flash FTW3 Original BIOS and downgrade PX1 to 1.1.1, then upgrade to 1.2.0 again and after that he prompted me to install the FTW3 Firmware, then again downgraded to 1.1.1 that is the version I'm using and both BIOS back to normal Thanks God. Any questions I'm happy to reply. Cheers, Sergio.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Okay guys, I have to change my tune here. I got the 500W bios to work. My old rig was an 6700k on an msi z170a gaming m7 motherboard. ...and I was never going over 420w with the new bios. I finally got ahold of a 5950 and I built a new rig with an MSI x570 godlike. I benched port royal and noticed my card is now pulling between 470-490 throughout most of the bench. So maybe this is hardware related after all? I do have the dreaded not china/ old with red lips card. So I thought I was just in the sucky card group. But it's running with much more stable clocks on this rig and the 500w bios is appearing to work suddenly out of the blue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 13:26:33
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andressergio here bro just downlad the XC3 Ultra BIOS: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?manufacturer=EVGA&model=RTX+3090 If you gonna use XC3 BIOS DON'T install PX1 New versions other than 1.1.1 like I did with 1.2.0 as it will flash the XC3 Ultra Firmware that's NOT compatible with the FTW3 and will brick the Led part and more. As for the procedure you have 2 switches, one for the Normal BIOS and one for the OC BIOS, in the OC BIOS I had the XC3 where I caused the problem and on the Normal BIOS I had the XOC FTW3. What I did was flash FTW3 Original BIOS and downgrade PX1 to 1.1.1, then upgrade to 1.2.0 again and after that he prompted me to install the FTW3 Firmware, then again downgraded to 1.1.1 that is the version I'm using and both BIOS back to normal Thanks God. Any questions I'm happy to reply. Cheers, Sergio.
Ahh, I see, thank you Sergio. So you can't use PX1 with the XC3 bios then right? When I tried the XC3 BIOS, I did not select to update and it would just close after. I used MSI afterburner instead.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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robotbeatrally Okay guys, I have to change my tune here. I got the 500W bios to work. My old rig was an 6700k on an msi z170a gaming m7 motherboard. ...and I was never going over 420w with the new bios. I finally got ahold of a 5950 and I built a new rig with an MSI x570 godlike. I benched port royal and noticed my card is now pulling between 470-490 throughout most of the bench. So maybe this is hardware related after all? I do have the dreaded not china/ old with red lips card. So I thought I was just in the sucky card group. But it's running with much more stable clocks on this rig and the 500w bios is appearing to work suddenly out of the blue.
So, this is the XOC BETA bios? I noticed I was drawing more power too but the card throttles harder also, so the scores really don't improve much. Whereas the XC3 BIOS benched much higher.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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robotbeatrally Okay guys, I have to change my tune here. I got the 500W bios to work. My old rig was an 6700k on an msi z170a gaming m7 motherboard. ...and I was never going over 420w with the new bios. I finally got ahold of a 5950 and I built a new rig with an MSI x570 godlike. I benched port royal and noticed my card is now pulling between 470-490 throughout most of the bench. So maybe this is hardware related after all? I do have the dreaded not china/ old with red lips card. So I thought I was just in the sucky card group. But it's running with much more stable clocks on this rig and the 500w bios is appearing to work suddenly out of the blue.
Keep in mind that some people managed 470-490W sustained on their current systems with the XOC Bios already, but then after they rebooted, it was right back to 420W. In order for you to know if it's SUSTAINED Long term, you have to: 1) Reboot (soft reboot) the system and run the benchmark again. 2) Power off the system (PSU hard power off, unplug/rocker switch off from wall), power on, then run the benchmark again. 3) (Yes I know) Play some other game, like some modern title, close the game, then run the benchmark again. And check the sustained power draw in GPU-Z (and hwinfo64--pay close attention to the DIFFERENCE between the TDP% and TDP Normalized % in HWinfo64!) when checking.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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USMC1419 So, this is the XOC BETA bios?
Kylearan Keep in mind that some people managed 470-490W sustained on their current systems with the XOC Bios already, but then after they rebooted, it was right back to 420W.
This is with the ftw3 beta bios in the first post, and i've restarted and run port royal several times, it's sustaining 460-490 throughout the bench still. Not sure why it draws so much more power on this set up.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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robotbeatrally Okay guys, I have to change my tune here. I got the 500W bios to work. My old rig was an 6700k on an msi z170a gaming m7 motherboard. ...and I was never going over 420w with the new bios. I finally got ahold of a 5950 and I built a new rig with an MSI x570 godlike. I benched port royal and noticed my card is now pulling between 470-490 throughout most of the bench. So maybe this is hardware related after all? I do have the dreaded not china/ old with red lips card. So I thought I was just in the sucky card group. But it's running with much more stable clocks on this rig and the 500w bios is appearing to work suddenly out of the blue.
Between your old and new system, the biggest factor i could see is you're running pcie 4.0 now. Im also limited to 420 watts on port royal. Im on x299. Can you check gpuz sensors after you do a port royal run?
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Do you realize buy doing all those change of bios and els and take many hours by test and test you can gain a .5fps at 4k ? Some of you stuck on this and become crazy at the end ! Comon guys a port royal score of 14200 vs 15200 can give you a gain of 2fps at 4k gaming ! And if you play at 1080p then you bought the wrong gpu. If i have 45 fps in cyberpunk will i notice it if i have 46.5fps ? ENJOY UR STUFF and ur games with this beast card. Stop asking urself wrong thing while you own the most powerfull gpu in the solar system lol. Peace
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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USMC1419 So, this is the XOC BETA bios?
Kylearan Keep in mind that some people managed 470-490W sustained on their current systems with the XOC Bios already, but then after they rebooted, it was right back to 420W.
This is with the ftw3 beta bios in the first post, and i've restarted and run port royal several times, it's sustaining 460-490 throughout the bench still. Not sure why it draws so much more power on this set up.
Maybe its something to do with the motherboard. I also have a day one Taiwan red lip card and its able to draw 510W sustained and peaks at over 535W while on my MSI Z490 Godlike. While testing it on my friend's Asrock H470 Phantom, it was only drawing 450W.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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USMC1419 So, this is the XOC BETA bios?
Kylearan Keep in mind that some people managed 470-490W sustained on their current systems with the XOC Bios already, but then after they rebooted, it was right back to 420W.
This is with the ftw3 beta bios in the first post, and i've restarted and run port royal several times, it's sustaining 460-490 throughout the bench still. Not sure why it draws so much more power on this set up.
Maybe its something to do with the motherboard. I also have a day one Taiwan red lip card and its able to draw 510W sustained and peaks at over 535W while on my MSI Z490 Godlike. While testing it on my friend's Asrock H470 Phantom, it was only drawing 450W.
Well there you go. It draws 500+ on your mobo, but the exact same card draws only 450 on your friends mobo. Is this the key?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2020/12/14 16:33:07
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changboy Do you realize buy doing all those change of bios and els and take many hours by test and test you can gain a .5fps at 4k ? Some of you stuck on this and become crazy at the end ! Comon guys a port royal score of 14200 vs 15200 can give you a gain of 2fps at 4k gaming ! And if you play at 1080p then you bought the wrong gpu. If i have 45 fps in cyberpunk will i notice it if i have 46.5fps ? ENJOY UR STUFF and ur games with this beast card. Stop asking urself wrong thing while you own the most powerfull gpu in the solar system lol. Peace
Interesting point - yes, 45 to 46.5 would actually be smoother for gameplay with my Gsync compatible TV since 45 FPS is the cutoff for Gsync to work with the LG CX.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Both my msi pro a z390 and my x570 aorus elite was only able to draw 450w max. Xoc bios does do something at least. Before the bios the max I would get is 410 420w. My pci express slot does get north of 75w on both systems. Anyone know if there is a way to limit it via software instead of hardware modding. For those people that have it working what motherboards are you running.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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jollib Both my msi pro a z390 and my x570 aorus elite was only able to draw 450w max. Xoc bios does do something at least. Before the bios the max I would get is 410 420w. My pci express slot does get north of 75w on both systems. Anyone know if there is a way to limit it via software instead of hardware modding. For those people that have it working what motherboards are you running.
Running on a EVGA Z490 Dark and I am getting power limited off the PCIe slot with the XOC bios. Any other Dark users having it work?
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glocked89 Can you check gpuz sensors after you do a port royal run?
Here's the run 3dmark dot com/pr/641714 (Sorry not sure if I can link the URL properly it keeps removing it) Here's about what GPUZ says when I drag my mouse across the little graphs. Temp (72-73 Deg) GPU Clock (2010-2055) Memory Clock (1244.5) Board power (470-490) GPU Chip Power Draw (280-299) Power SRC Power Draw (108-109) PCI Slot (74-75) 8 Pin Power (128-135) 8 pin #2 PWR (128-135) 8 pin #3 PWR (120-130)
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