firxxp
hello, slovak killer, you speak about the xc3 bios? because yes it is one of the problem, we need to put fan manually each time, this is not particularly safe in gaming mode! we hope evga can fix its xoc bios!

No, that was with XOC F8 bios.

Dumb question, what is a fan curve profile? Is me setting the fans to 75% better or worse than a fan profile? I've only had the card for a day and I can get 14522 in pr. Still a fair way from some of the scores I'm seeing but not too bad

AzN1337c0d3r

zogge
"Obtaining 500W varies from card to card. We are trying to understand why this is but seems related to silicon lottery. You can try yours if you want. Either way still looking into, it’s a beta BIOS, and there are no guarantees when it comes to wattage, etc. As you know there are many variables here."

So I guess 2012 (China) cards all win the silicon lottery but 2014 (Taiwan) cards all lost the silicon lottery?

Not necessarily; I had two samples, one 2012 and one 2014 and they both averaged 460W in RDR2. 

Got mine from Walmart earlier today and flashed to this bios. In time spy I hit 504 watts according to Nvidia performance. Guess I got lucky...

2012 made in China.

Still has red lips :(

AzN1337c0d3r

zogge
"Obtaining 500W varies from card to card. We are trying to understand why this is but seems related to silicon lottery. You can try yours if you want. Either way still looking into, it’s a beta BIOS, and there are no guarantees when it comes to wattage, etc. As you know there are many variables here."

So I guess 2012 (China) cards all win the silicon lottery but 2014 (Taiwan) cards all lost the silicon lottery?

mine is very good and it's 2014 just wish boost got locked and doesn't jump but well we all have that problem

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/556717

Did great on air I think!!

Barrok
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/556717

Did great on air I think!!

Invalid score - What were the non-default settings you used?

zogge
"Obtaining 500W varies from card to card. We are trying to understand why this is but seems related to silicon lottery. You can try yours if you want. Either way still looking into, it’s a beta BIOS, and there are no guarantees when it comes to wattage, etc. As you know there are many variables here."

I can guarantee silicon lottery has nothing to do with the bios issue, let me explain. My card is drawing on average around 430W, why ? because for whatever reason something limits my core voltage to 980mv, as soons as I apply negative core clock offset, aka -64mhz on core clock the card shoots up to 1043mV and power draw is reaching 480W. If it was related to silicon lottery the card would be unstable at lets say +100mhz core clock offset, however the card is stable on this offset with XC3 bios no problem, drawing around 500W, so whats the conclusion ? Something is hardlimiting our core voltage so it stays under 1000mV, the more core clock u apply the less voltage u get. Im thinking that the boost voltage table is fcked up, but it might also be something power related.

BTW GUYS !
If someone here is getting Kingpin card, can we get early bios dump ? Just dump the LN2 bios through GPU-Z and send it here.

doorules

slovak_killer

zogge
"Obtaining 500W varies from card to card. We are trying to understand why this is but seems related to silicon lottery. You can try yours if you want. Either way still looking into, it’s a beta BIOS, and there are no guarantees when it comes to wattage, etc. As you know there are many variables here."

I can guarantee silicon lottery has nothing to do with the bios issue, let me explain. My card is drawing on average around 430W, why ? because for whatever reason something limits my core voltage to 980mv, as soons as I apply negative core clock offset, aka -64mhz on core clock the card shoots up to 1043mV and power draw is reaching 480W. If it was related to silicon lottery the card would be unstable at lets say +100mhz core clock offset, however the card is stable on this offset with XC3 bios no problem, drawing around 500W, so whats the conclusion ? Something is hardlimiting our core voltage so it stays under 1000mV, the more core clock u apply the less voltage u get. Im thinking that the boost voltage table is fcked up, but it might also be something power related.

I am also limited to around 430W. But on my gpu I dont have the issue of the voltage being limited. I have seen 1.081 and 1.093 several times. But in the end it does not correlate with a higher W draw.
 
I can get to 460W with the XC3 bios but with that bios my core speed has to be greatly reduced to get through any bench. Basically limited to +100 on the core with the XC3 bios.
 
I agree that it has nothing to do with the silicon lottery. Hopefully EVGA will rework the bios.

If u can sustain for whole bench 1093mV and still see low Wattage your gpu isnt loaded enough (as we have formula W(watts) = V(volts)*A(ampers)). So youre probably running bench that isnt stressing your gpu enough aka asking for Amps, either your memory and gpu chip arent stressed or u have some kind of throttling in place.

doorules
I was referring to PR and TSE. With XOC bios I have run TSE @ +200 core and +800 mem settings. Got higher voltage readings but did not come close to 500 watts. I am on high performance power plan and settings adjusted in nvidia CP. I am not aware of any throttling in place.
 
I had voltage tab in gpuz set to show max, so those V numbers i referenced were obviously the max it hit, I was not on the curve with a set voltage.

Okay if those number were just peaks it makes sense, Im barely running 980mV during TSE and never saw more than 430-440W, XOC bios ofc

I am quite confused. My Timespy graphics score (19500 stock) dropped when I switched to OC bios, dropped again when I increased power limit, and dropped again with a mild overclock (+100 core and +100 mem) to a score of around 18500. However, my Port Royal score increased from 13300 to 14000 at the same time. Any idea what is going on? 3090 FTW3 Ultra

double post

andressergio

ninshoo
Hi,
 
just for share if anyone interested for test.
 
FTW 3090 Taiwan Rev1.0
Bios XC3
Preset curve stable H24 AIR
MSI AFTERBURNER
 
 
*Must install and just launch Precision X1 BUT dont touch anything in for fix fan settings on MSI AFTERBURTNER
 

When you set the curve on MSI AFB and then open PX1 the target is 100 not 119% is it like that? I'm on XOC BIOS not XC3, the fans are also an issue it does strange things like not adjusting them (MSI AFB I mean).

You must instal PX1 for debug Fan and setting it to startup with windows in minimised and never touch it after, if you change any settings in PX1 all in afterburner is useless.