Kylearan

Notchy44


I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

I'm sorry for being rude, but your screenshot was postage size stamped.  Impossible to read anything. 
 
https://i.ibb.co/mv85YgL/Card-power-and-info.png
 
That's your screenshot.  See? It's unreadable.  That link is actually a 640x480 resolution link.  Someone on a 4k monitor is going to have a field day with that.
 
Please use "IMGUR" next time, upload them there then post a "direct link" to the full sized screenshot.
These problems always happenn when people use weird websites for images.
 
Also your video didn't have 8 pin#3 showing.  That is a 3 pin card right?  But we can just subtract the board power draw from the known values.
Your PCIE does indeed have an 85W limit rather than 75W the affected cards have.
Your power values then are 138W+156W+131W + 78.5W.
 
= 503W.  This is what we needed.

willm1224

Notchy44

Kylearan

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444
 
video of my card working

how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max

Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg

tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.

What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 

Man allooott of people are having problems not just me, it's a 1000w supernova evga power supply from last march, yeah it's 3 separate 8 pins. 

No I get it, just crazy that some can work and some dont. How old is your card? Mine is 2 weeks old directly from EVGA. I know we have checked the revisions already and they match but maybe they stealth changed something?

All it takes is one component somewhere soldered or some resistor and then the card will run at 85W PCIE rather than 75W.
In your screenshot, you didn't show us the important info.  What was the max wattages on the 8 pins and pcie slot?  Showing us total board power doesn't help.  Because total board power *is* the 8 pins+PCIE slot added.  See?

I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

What’s your PCB revision? Going to go look at mine now this should tell us if there were any board changes from mine to yours

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44

Kylearan

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44

willm1224

Notchy44
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444

video of my card working

how long did you have that test running for before that? just curious i dont' like leaving furmark running long. but i never got those values...464 max

Iv let it run for 30 min but that test was short, Doesnt matter how long I let it run for the avg is always the same 499. This test does stress the cooling but never goes above 75c with maxed out fans. Port Royal avg is 62c maxed fans 495w+ avg

tested it for another minute or two. max peaks of 471 W, with it immediately jumping back down to 440-450. rinse repeeat.

What is your power supply setup? how old is it? Also are you using 3 full pci-E 8 pins? Just hard to believe after 2 cards that I have personally installed in 2 completely different builds worked perfectly fine. 

Man allooott of people are having problems not just me, it's a 1000w supernova evga power supply from last march, yeah it's 3 separate 8 pins. 

No I get it, just crazy that some can work and some dont. How old is your card? Mine is 2 weeks old directly from EVGA. I know we have checked the revisions already and they match but maybe they stealth changed something?

All it takes is one component somewhere soldered or some resistor and then the card will run at 85W PCIE rather than 75W.
In your screenshot, you didn't show us the important info.  What was the max wattages on the 8 pins and pcie slot?  Showing us total board power doesn't help.  Because total board power *is* the 8 pins+PCIE slot added.  See?

I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

What’s your PCB revision? Going to go look at mine now this should tell us if there were any board changes from mine to yours

My rev is 0.1

slovak_killer

Notchy44

slovak_killer

Notchy44

Kylearan

Notchy44


I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

I'm sorry for being rude, but your screenshot was postage size stamped.  Impossible to read anything. 
 
https://i.ibb.co/mv85YgL/Card-power-and-info.png
 
That's your screenshot.  See? It's unreadable.  That link is actually a 640x480 resolution link.  Someone on a 4k monitor is going to have a field day with that.
 
Please use "IMGUR" next time, upload them there then post a "direct link" to the full sized screenshot.
These problems always happenn when people use weird websites for images.
 
Also your video didn't have 8 pin#3 showing.  That is a 3 pin card right?  But we can just subtract the board power draw from the known values.
Your PCIE does indeed have an 85W limit rather than 75W the affected cards have.
Your power values then are 138W+156W+131W + 78.5W.
 
= 503W.  This is what we needed.

This was uploaded with imgur but just look at the video so you can see it working in real time. 0 shunt mods, PCI express pulling 75-80 watts MAX, PCI 8 pins avg 140-150
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444

yea with this video u can see that PCIE shunting was total crap...thats why I told u to wait and dont do it. Well to be honest your "chip power" is same as mine but for whatever reason your PWR_SRC is way higher than mine, im running like 90w

What are u talking about... this is how my card came from the factory. I installed another ftw3 last night with the exact same results as well. Im so confused why you said this: "yea with this video u can see that PCIE shunting was total crap...thats why I told u to wait and dont do it." Once again, my card is STOCK and has not been shunt modded. Im not framechasers lol

Please read my statement again.. Im saying u can pull 500W with reasonable PCIE (u showed around 70-80w, completely stock values) and dont need any pcie shunt modding.. Im using your video as proof for those who believe pcie shunt modding is neccesary.

slovak_killer

Notchy44

slovak_killer

Notchy44

Kylearan

Notchy44


I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

I'm sorry for being rude, but your screenshot was postage size stamped.  Impossible to read anything. 
 
https://i.ibb.co/mv85YgL/Card-power-and-info.png
 
That's your screenshot.  See? It's unreadable.  That link is actually a 640x480 resolution link.  Someone on a 4k monitor is going to have a field day with that.
 
Please use "IMGUR" next time, upload them there then post a "direct link" to the full sized screenshot.
These problems always happenn when people use weird websites for images.
 
Also your video didn't have 8 pin#3 showing.  That is a 3 pin card right?  But we can just subtract the board power draw from the known values.
Your PCIE does indeed have an 85W limit rather than 75W the affected cards have.
Your power values then are 138W+156W+131W + 78.5W.
 
= 503W.  This is what we needed.

This was uploaded with imgur but just look at the video so you can see it working in real time. 0 shunt mods, PCI express pulling 75-80 watts MAX, PCI 8 pins avg 140-150
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444

yea with this video u can see that PCIE shunting was total crap...thats why I told u to wait and dont do it. Well to be honest your "chip power" is same as mine but for whatever reason your PWR_SRC is way higher than mine, im running like 90w

What are u talking about... this is how my card came from the factory. I installed another ftw3 last night with the exact same results as well. Im so confused why you said this: "yea with this video u can see that PCIE shunting was total crap...thats why I told u to wait and dont do it." Once again, my card is STOCK and has not been shunt modded. Im not framechasers lol

Please read my statement again.. Im saying u can pull 500W with reasonable PCIE (u showed around 70-80w, completely stock values) and dont need any pcie shunt modding.. Im using your video as proof for those who believe pcie shunt modding is neccesary.

digitalmonk

rgarodnick
Is it possible to revert firmware that x1 installed? I got more performance before it

Interested in this as well.
Also any consensus on the card version china/Taiwan regarding the 500w? Is one working and the other isn't?

Notchy44

slovak_killer

Notchy44

slovak_killer

Notchy44

Kylearan

Notchy44


I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

I'm sorry for being rude, but your screenshot was postage size stamped.  Impossible to read anything. 
 
https://i.ibb.co/mv85YgL/Card-power-and-info.png
 
That's your screenshot.  See? It's unreadable.  That link is actually a 640x480 resolution link.  Someone on a 4k monitor is going to have a field day with that.
 
Please use "IMGUR" next time, upload them there then post a "direct link" to the full sized screenshot.
These problems always happenn when people use weird websites for images.
 
Also your video didn't have 8 pin#3 showing.  That is a 3 pin card right?  But we can just subtract the board power draw from the known values.
Your PCIE does indeed have an 85W limit rather than 75W the affected cards have.
Your power values then are 138W+156W+131W + 78.5W.
 
= 503W.  This is what we needed.

This was uploaded with imgur but just look at the video so you can see it working in real time. 0 shunt mods, PCI express pulling 75-80 watts MAX, PCI 8 pins avg 140-150
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444

yea with this video u can see that PCIE shunting was total crap...thats why I told u to wait and dont do it. Well to be honest your "chip power" is same as mine but for whatever reason your PWR_SRC is way higher than mine, im running like 90w

What are u talking about... this is how my card came from the factory. I installed another ftw3 last night with the exact same results as well. Im so confused why you said this: "yea with this video u can see that PCIE shunting was total crap...thats why I told u to wait and dont do it." Once again, my card is STOCK and has not been shunt modded. Im not framechasers lol

Please read my statement again.. Im saying u can pull 500W with reasonable PCIE (u showed around 70-80w, completely stock values) and dont need any pcie shunt modding.. Im using your video as proof for those who believe pcie shunt modding is neccesary.

Ahhh ok got it. Yeah 0 reason to shunt mod until EVGA sends a updated bios or responds. Last night one my posts was flagged by admin and was approved so they are reading and looking into this.

slovak_killer

willm1224
Notchy what motherboard are you using to get these numbers? I assume both cards were tested on the same motherboard? or are both cards now working to spec on different systems?

looks like X570 strix

willm1224

Kylearan

Notchy44

Kylearan

Notchy44


I 100% already showed all of that data like 10x please look at my video or 10 of my pics showing all of that data even from last nights post.

I'm sorry for being rude, but your screenshot was postage size stamped.  Impossible to read anything. 
 
https://i.ibb.co/mv85YgL/Card-power-and-info.png
 
That's your screenshot.  See? It's unreadable.  That link is actually a 640x480 resolution link.  Someone on a 4k monitor is going to have a field day with that.
 
Please use "IMGUR" next time, upload them there then post a "direct link" to the full sized screenshot.
These problems always happenn when people use weird websites for images.
 
Also your video didn't have 8 pin#3 showing.  That is a 3 pin card right?  But we can just subtract the board power draw from the known values.
Your PCIE does indeed have an 85W limit rather than 75W the affected cards have.
Your power values then are 138W+156W+131W + 78.5W.
 
= 503W.  This is what we needed.

This was uploaded with imgur but just look at the video so you can see it working in real time. 0 shunt mods, PCI express pulling 75-80 watts MAX, PCI 8 pins avg 140-150
youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM&ab_channel=MrNotchy444

Yeah I saw the video.
I think the problem is, some people's cards are being limited to 75W PCIE (440W max draw) while some are being able to hit 85W PCIE (503W).
And currently, no one seems to know why.  

I get in between those numbers highest I've ever seen is like 82 with peaks of 471 tdp (sharp peaks that drop off quickly) avg 77 w or so for PCIE slot power. When I spoke to an evga rep about this (the guy who administrates this forum picked up the phone), he seemed extremely concerned that I was pulling more than 75w out of the PCIE slot and asked me if I had a molex 6 pin PCIE supplemental power connector on my mobo, which I do not. 

willm1224

Jarmel
So was there a PCB revision resulting in the better performance?

No, I have the revised board .1 (no one has mentioned a higher revision) from Taiwan and it doesn’t hit 500w

slovak_killer

willm1224

Jarmel
So was there a PCB revision resulting in the better performance?

No, I have the revised board .1 (no one has mentioned a higher revision) from Taiwan and it doesn’t hit 500w

Mine is also from taiwan, wondering which country are Notchys ftws

Notchy44

willm1224

slovak_killer

willm1224

Jarmel
So was there a PCB revision resulting in the better performance?

No, I have the revised board .1 (no one has mentioned a higher revision) from Taiwan and it doesn’t hit 500w

Mine is also from taiwan, wondering which country are Notchys ftws

he asked where to look, he’ll report back I’m sure he’s been very on point w/ responses last night and today.

Welp I think we are on to something. Both cards are from CHINA not Taiwan. My system is a AMD x570 Strix 3900X and my friends system I build for him last night is a MSI Godlike 10900k. Both are using 1200W power supplies and both cards are from china with Rev 0.1

willm1224

Notchy44

willm1224

slovak_killer

willm1224

Jarmel
So was there a PCB revision resulting in the better performance?

No, I have the revised board .1 (no one has mentioned a higher revision) from Taiwan and it doesn’t hit 500w

Mine is also from taiwan, wondering which country are Notchys ftws

he asked where to look, he’ll report back I’m sure he’s been very on point w/ responses last night and today.

Welp I think we are on to something. Both cards are from CHINA not Taiwan. My system is a AMD x570 Strix 3900X and my friends system I build for him last night is a MSI Godlike 10900k. Both are using 1200W power supplies and both cards are from china with Rev 0.1

We have a preliminary answer. cards made in china work. mine from taiwain does not and multiple other reports verify this. it's a small sample size but all signs point to faulty manufacturing. doubtful they will allow RMA over this, as "overclocking and results" aren't guaranteed. sad day.