Dabadger84
You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W, there's a BIOS update coming for the BAR beeswax that might also help with power balancing issues - I spoke with Support about this, they will not authorize an RMA just for the card either not hitting 500W draw because the BIOS is still in BETA and/or it drawing slightly over spec on the PCIe slot.
That's an official response from an eVGA rep, so take it how you will.  The card isn't going to spontaenously combust from drawing 3W over the single slot spec - maybe if you run it like that 24/7 for a few years straight, but even then, I don't think it's THAT big of an issue.  It's something they SHOULD fix, because the Kingpin I have doesn't draw anywhere near even 75W so far from the slot and that's with me seeing as high as 535W draw on the 520W BIOS.
And again, how many cards have been through LN2 OCing and still work, despite drawing 600-700-800+W (albeit for short periods for benchmarks, but still, point is what it is).  If you're continually seeing something higher like 90W, that's a different story because that plainly should not be happening on an un-modded 3090 that isn't a Kingpin on the 1000W BIOS. 
 
My 3090 FTW3 Hybrid is up on for sale now, hopefully it goes to someone with a brain - already had two messages asking questions about it when the answers for said questions were IN the description (Why are you selling it - because of I got a Kingpin, what temps did you get - also in the description lol).  Some people just can't be helped.

That is a blatant lie. If the card is out of spec without an overclock and on the stock VBIOS it is a valid reason for RMA. The spec is 75W for PCIE devices. Many high end 3090s appear to only draw around 66W without overclock at similar stock wattage levels, or higher (480W).
 
I RMA'd my first card for it being of spec as proof of your lie. If others want cards that fall within spec, they have the right to - regardless of what you think they can or cannot do.

Clayman31
No need to be so aggressive. Calm yourself.

Ha! Then you'd love me when I am actually angry.

compuclinic
My card I just RMA'd spiked far over spec (85+ watt) xoc bios.    
Every card I've had but the first that ended up going single red light of doom has hit 500 watt w/o issue.  
Newest card just pulled 530,  with only 68w PCI-E draw.    Just got word my optimus block ships TODAY!!  :D 

Were you from the 2nd batch? I ordered mine Nov 4th, I wanted the Optimus block, but also ordered an EK. My EK shipped first, arrives tomorrow, so I cancelled the Optimus block. Saved $120 that way, but I’d still prefer the Optimus. They took too damn long.

god503

Did you use time spy extreme??? That's the only benchmark that I have noticed that gets my card to suck out the most juice

Just regular time spy actually! I started using some of the others, but so far regular time spy was the only peak I got to go above 450. The rest just hover around 450.

I'm debating whether or not the fan noise is worth it to go with the OC vs standard XOC.

Currently, I'm just focusing on figuring out the sweet spot for maximizing gaming. The slider at max isnt the way to go either. My fastest clock speed does better at a lower power target.

arestavo
 
That is a blatant lie. If the card is out of spec without an overclock and on the stock VBIOS it is a valid reason for RMA. The spec is 75W for PCIE devices. Many high end 3090s appear to only draw around 66W without overclock at similar stock wattage levels, or higher (480W).

 
You are correct.  My MSI Gaming X Trio rarely draws more than 60W through the PCIEx16 slot with the MSi Suprim BIOS and doesn't break 66 watts with the EVGA 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS or the Kingpin BIOS.  The Strix 3090 I have here rarely pulls more than 55W through the PCIEX16 slot with tis stock BISO, the EVAG 500w XOC BIOS or the Kingpin BIOS.
 
Flashing the XOC BIOS onto the Strix gives great results:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/57469765
 
 

arestavo

Dabadger84
You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W, there's a BIOS update coming for the BAR beeswax that might also help with power balancing issues - I spoke with Support about this, they will not authorize an RMA just for the card either not hitting 500W draw because the BIOS is still in BETA and/or it drawing slightly over spec on the PCIe slot.
That's an official response from an eVGA rep, so take it how you will.  The card isn't going to spontaenously combust from drawing 3W over the single slot spec - maybe if you run it like that 24/7 for a few years straight, but even then, I don't think it's THAT big of an issue.  It's something they SHOULD fix, because the Kingpin I have doesn't draw anywhere near even 75W so far from the slot and that's with me seeing as high as 535W draw on the 520W BIOS.
And again, how many cards have been through LN2 OCing and still work, despite drawing 600-700-800+W (albeit for short periods for benchmarks, but still, point is what it is).  If you're continually seeing something higher like 90W, that's a different story because that plainly should not be happening on an un-modded 3090 that isn't a Kingpin on the 1000W BIOS. 
 
My 3090 FTW3 Hybrid is up on for sale now, hopefully it goes to someone with a brain - already had two messages asking questions about it when the answers for said questions were IN the description (Why are you selling it - because of I got a Kingpin, what temps did you get - also in the description lol).  Some people just can't be helped.

That is a blatant lie. If the card is out of spec without an overclock and on the stock VBIOS it is a valid reason for RMA. The spec is 75W for PCIE devices. Many high end 3090s appear to only draw around 66W without overclock at similar stock wattage levels, or higher (480W).
 
I RMA'd my first card for it being of spec as proof of your lie. If others want cards that fall within spec, they have the right to - regardless of what you think they can or cannot do.

??????? Dude I'm not lying, I can literally show you a screenshot of the eVGA reply stating you cannot RMA it for that:
 

 
So it's not a "blatant lie" thank you very much mister malding.  I'll email them again with that specifically being the only question I ask & post back, but you need to quit getting all offensive over people posting informed, actual answers.  Thanks.

I think the main thing that burns everyones ass, (or at least this does mine) is that they splurged on a top tier card and get less performance than someone that did not  from another brand.  I have always been and EVGA fan until this.  I know which brand will not be my list the next time I purchase a GPU!  I vote with my wallet! At least I only had to pay retail for my card @ microcenter for the $1799 which i still can't believe i spent this much on a card to begin with but I just got tired of waiting.
 

I think EVGA will accept RMA depending of the customers too.
In my mind, if you are a big customers of their product, it can pass else it could not :)
 
They are speaking about software fix, but for me the problem is hardware ?
How they can fix that ? Sorting different bios version depending of the hardware problems ? I don't think so :)
 
I personnaly think they will not sort out a fix for this problem because they just simply can't.
That's why for month they make the dead haha :)
 
My card 3090 FTW3 is not so bad, but it is having the PCI-E overspec problem. I never tested in stock mode but immediatly with XOC.
I had again to return to 1000W kingpin, setting a 50% TDP.
I'm waiting for ordering a Hybrit Kit when available.

kdog0428
@ Dabadger84 You may wanna re check your leaderboard, 7th place for a 9900k and 1- 3090 GPU is much higher than 15380 in Port Royal. Top 10 are 15874 to 15814 Maybe you marked the wrong CPU in your search of the Leaderboard. Gratz on that score it is great!!

Dude those are all the same person, you need to do "Leaderboard" not score explorer, there's a ton of results from the same people fine tuning scores, I'm talking about the Leaderboard, as it would be recognized for a WR lol:
 

 
That's the now #5 I'm talking about.  And all 4 of them are running 15-33C average temp meaning they're doing very-cold ambient or outside-air cooling, mine is still 47C in that run AKA an ambient of 68F.  So I'm quite happy with my score being that high.  Especially considering they also all have CPU clocks in the 5.3-5.5GHz range.

Dabadger84

arestavo

Dabadger84
You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W, there's a BIOS update coming for the BAR beeswax that might also help with power balancing issues - I spoke with Support about this, they will not authorize an RMA just for the card either not hitting 500W draw because the BIOS is still in BETA and/or it drawing slightly over spec on the PCIe slot.
That's an official response from an eVGA rep, so take it how you will.  The card isn't going to spontaenously combust from drawing 3W over the single slot spec - maybe if you run it like that 24/7 for a few years straight, but even then, I don't think it's THAT big of an issue.  It's something they SHOULD fix, because the Kingpin I have doesn't draw anywhere near even 75W so far from the slot and that's with me seeing as high as 535W draw on the 520W BIOS.
And again, how many cards have been through LN2 OCing and still work, despite drawing 600-700-800+W (albeit for short periods for benchmarks, but still, point is what it is).  If you're continually seeing something higher like 90W, that's a different story because that plainly should not be happening on an un-modded 3090 that isn't a Kingpin on the 1000W BIOS. 
 
My 3090 FTW3 Hybrid is up on for sale now, hopefully it goes to someone with a brain - already had two messages asking questions about it when the answers for said questions were IN the description (Why are you selling it - because of I got a Kingpin, what temps did you get - also in the description lol).  Some people just can't be helped.

That is a blatant lie. If the card is out of spec without an overclock and on the stock VBIOS it is a valid reason for RMA. The spec is 75W for PCIE devices. Many high end 3090s appear to only draw around 66W without overclock at similar stock wattage levels, or higher (480W).
 
I RMA'd my first card for it being of spec as proof of your lie. If others want cards that fall within spec, they have the right to - regardless of what you think they can or cannot do.

??????? Dude I'm not lying, I can literally show you a screenshot of the eVGA reply stating you cannot RMA it for that:
 

 
So it's not a "blatant lie" thank you very much mister malding.  I'll email them again with that specifically being the only question I ask & post back, but you need to quit getting all offensive over people posting informed, actual answers.  Thanks.

Read your first sentence.

Now read my second sentence.

Now put your card back to stock VBIOS, test, and RMA your card for being out of spec. Or don't. Just don't spread disinformation by telling folks that they:

Dabadger84
You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W

Because that isn't true. The spec is 75W max for a stock card, and it is valid reason for RMA - the reason that I myself RMAd my first 3090 FT3 Ultra for.

MiztahSparklez
hmm I must have hit some sort of wall.  After flashing around between stock and XOC, the performance of my card has dipped quite a bit and one of the flashes started artifacting on the desktop at default clock speeds, with no other apps running.
 
It also seems like my scores don't change nearly as much from the small overclocking I was doing from the initial tests.  Peak time spy score was 19037, but now i'm just averaging more like 18400-18600.  The closest pull was still 18800 with 456w.  PCIE slot power never went above 80w.
 
Higher clock speeds just ended up at the same 18600, where previously it would jump much higher.  temp is still 40-50s under load (30s at idle), so it shouldn't be thermal limited.

Try XC3 BIOS after DDU

hello guys, I have a little problem. After mounting the hybrid kit a mada the bad decision to update the bios to the hybrid bios. And then when i opened x1 it flashed a new firmware. Now i reverted the bios to the xc3. I have fan problems on radiator fans.
 
I have uninstalled the precision x1 and i use msi afterburner.
 
I set a correct fan curve but it does work only in windows. If you load any game, i can see that ab sets correctly the fan speed on both fans (vrm as fan2 and radiator fans as fan1). Even if the fan speed are corrects, fan1 tachometer is often out of range with peaks towards 10k.
The fan speed is not respected and fans go up and downs. 
 
Now reflashing the hybrid ftw3 bios the fans works regularly.
Flashing xc3 hybrid bios gives the same problem.
 
Is there any option to reuse xc3 bios without having fan speed problems? Do you think the problem has been caused by the firmware upgrade by precision x1?
 
Thank you

xgiovio
hello guys, I have a little problem. After mounting the hybrid kit a mada the bad decision to update the bios to the hybrid bios. And then when i opened x1 it flashed a new firmware. Now i reverted the bios to the xc3. I have fan problems on radiator fans.
 
I have uninstalled the precision x1 and i use msi afterburner.
 
I set a correct fan curve but it does work only in windows. If you load any game, i can see that ab sets correctly the fan speed on both fans (vrm as fan2 and radiator fans as fan1). Even if the fan speed are corrects, fan1 tachometer is often out of range with peaks towards 10k.
The fan speed is not respected and fans go up and downs. 
 
Now reflashing the hybrid ftw3 bios the fans works regularly.
Flashing xc3 hybrid bios gives the same problem.
 
Is there any option to reuse xc3 bios without having fan speed problems? Do you think the problem has been caused by the firmware upgrade by precision x1?
 
Thank you

Fan1 is the pump. It runs at a constant speed regardless of any spurious readings in software.
 
As to not seeing weird fan1 speeds? I'm guessing the MCU update that PX1 pushed borked the readings for the other VBIOS. If you can, turn off fan1 monitoring if it bothers you.

cerealkeller

compuclinic
My card I just RMA'd spiked far over spec (85+ watt) xoc bios.    
Every card I've had but the first that ended up going single red light of doom has hit 500 watt w/o issue.  
Newest card just pulled 530,  with only 68w PCI-E draw.    Just got word my optimus block ships TODAY!!  :D 

Were you from the 2nd batch? I ordered mine Nov 4th, I wanted the Optimus block, but also ordered an EK. My EK shipped first, arrives tomorrow, so I cancelled the Optimus block. Saved $120 that way, but I’d still prefer the Optimus. They took too damn long.

Yessir.  I think one of the first orders on 2nd batch.   My block +XL backplate is arriving tomorrow according to UPS.   I'm off tomorrow so it'll be glorious to put this guy under less ridiculous temps and see how it performs.  I know they are well within spec but I haven't ran an air-cooled graphics card since the 8800 GTX and damn do I hate seeing temps in the 70's-80's lol.  

finally got back up this score with a somewhat stable clock/memory ratio.  not terrible, but not the fastest either. pulls just under 450w at a 112 power target