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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 10:38:06
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Only if the 1k bios is the cause of the damage. In the US. The law says it has to be proven the modification caused the damage. But the 1k bios won't poop the card unless u shunt. With out the shunt it won't draw any way close to 1k
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 13:55:40
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Only if the 1k bios is the cause of the damage. In the US. The law says it has to be proven the modification caused the damage. But the 1k bios won't poop the card unless u shunt. With out the shunt it won't draw any way close to 1k
Ehhh, I've heard countless stories of people who modded the ECU's on their Audi and were flagged for denial of ALL warranty claims as they voided it. I'm pretty sure they can deny a warranty due to flashing unsupported bios. Would love to hear EVGA chime in on this though.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 14:01:41
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Actually the XOC bios didnt do anything for most of owner of 3090 ftw3 ultra so in fact its not supported by the EVGA card lol and while its working for other brand, so ya we can talk about what is supported .
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 14:26:59
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god503
Only if the 1k bios is the cause of the damage. In the US. The law says it has to be proven the modification caused the damage. But the 1k bios won't poop the card unless u shunt. With out the shunt it won't draw any way close to 1k
Ehhh, I've heard countless stories of people who modded the ECU's on their Audi and were flagged for denial of ALL warranty claims as they voided it. I'm pretty sure they can deny a warranty due to flashing unsupported bios. Would love to hear EVGA chime in on this though.
It depends what the claim is. If the steering wheel falls off or a brake caliper ceases, u can't blame the ecu flash on that and they can't deny the claim. They have to prove that what You did is the root cause. As u can always un flash before u take it in. I had a chip in my navigator that I always took off before service.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 15:02:10
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Only if the 1k bios is the cause of the damage. In the US. The law says it has to be proven the modification caused the damage. But the 1k bios won't poop the card unless u shunt. With out the shunt it won't draw any way close to 1k
Ehhh, I've heard countless stories of people who modded the ECU's on their Audi and were flagged for denial of ALL warranty claims as they voided it. I'm pretty sure they can deny a warranty due to flashing unsupported bios. Would love to hear EVGA chime in on this though.
It depends what the claim is. If the steering wheel falls off or a brake caliper ceases, u can't blame the ecu flash on that and they can't deny the claim. They have to prove that what You did is the root cause. As u can always un flash before u take it in. I had a chip in my navigator that I always took off before service.
That's of course always been my strategy with tuning cars that still had warranty (not that I've had a lot of need for this) but just heard stories of people going in for unrelated work, them noticing the tune and voiding the warranty. You probably are right with your ability to win a case however I'm thinking most probably don't push it and just accept the dealer refusing to honor the warranty. Generally speaking in my time as an Audi owner I've realized most of the obnoxious cost of ownership that comes with one is just 100% owner stupidity and falling for dealership / stealership service tactics. Wouldn't surprise me if some people were like, Oh damn power steering pump went bad? Guess I just gotta go buy a new one then eh? :D
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 15:56:15
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Hahahah. Alot of people fall into that category... but hey, if u can afford an audi, u can afford that pump... ;)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 19:28:26
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Actually the XOC bios didnt do anything for most of owner of 3090 ftw3 ultra so in fact its not supported by the EVGA card lol and while its working for other brand, so ya we can talk about what is supported .
If you Bench it does better than XC3 BIOS, if you Game XC3 is a must, at least on my card and more now that I installed the Hybrid Kit it makes a difference, not like a waterblock but if you installed the right way it does the job much better than on Air. Cheers, Sergio.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/26 19:32:12
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 06:40:40
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Guys,
if you RMA your card, what reason are you selecting in the Drop down Menu for "PCI-E Slot power draw out if spec"?
My FTW3 ULTRA is pulling 78 Watts with the standard bios and the Bios Selector switch set to OC. Haven't tried the Beta Bios again after reading about this problem, but I think, I remember seeing 83 Watts or so.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 07:21:58
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Guys,
if you RMA your card, what reason are you selecting in the Drop down Menu for "PCI-E Slot power draw out if spec"?
My FTW3 ULTRA is pulling 78 Watts with the standard bios and the Bios Selector switch set to OC. Haven't tried the Beta Bios again after reading about this problem, but I think, I remember seeing 83 Watts or so.
Hi there, First off, is your name a supernatural reference? (sam and dean winchester) if so, you win free expedited responses all day :D I personally call every time I need an RMA, I don't like automated services personally as I'd rather talk to someone employed by the company. imo, its like avoiding self-checkout to ensure the checkout lady has a job. 78 watts is not bad and is nothing something I'd probably RMA for. I've seen 85+ on my most recent I RMA'd. I've yet to see one that stays under. Generally speaking, the biggest disadvantage beyond flat out not getting what you paid for is the card will be 24/7 power limited. IF it's pulling that much from the slot, its not balancing the power cable voltages correctly. Use GPUz and click to have the values show MAX, game a bit (different games) and see what you get! Personally some of the games I've gotten the highest draw from are Doom Eternal, RD2, Modern Warfare and Madden. Praying to god my newest replacement is better than my last.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 07:29:01
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Guys,
if you RMA your card, what reason are you selecting in the Drop down Menu for "PCI-E Slot power draw out if spec"?
My FTW3 ULTRA is pulling 78 Watts with the standard bios and the Bios Selector switch set to OC. Haven't tried the Beta Bios again after reading about this problem, but I think, I remember seeing 83 Watts or so.
I think that is pretty standard for this card until they put out a fix...if that is possible.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 07:32:14
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One up for the winchesters!!!!! 15 years went by fast!!!!! I would not worry about your readings on the slot. I'm running the 1k bios and I have it set for 650 watts which is the max the cards suck without shunting. I average 90 with 100 peaks at the slot. Remeber these cards have 120 watt fuses for the slot so they are ment to handle the load. The balance issue imo is more of a problem for not letting the card draw more from the pci power plugs. And the bios does have something to do about it. On the 1k bios my 3rd pci power port hits 200 with the other 2 in the 180s. Before on the xoc bios my port 3 was always trailing the first 2
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:06:00
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Lord Winchester
Guys,
if you RMA your card, what reason are you selecting in the Drop down Menu for "PCI-E Slot power draw out if spec"?
My FTW3 ULTRA is pulling 78 Watts with the standard bios and the Bios Selector switch set to OC. Haven't tried the Beta Bios again after reading about this problem, but I think, I remember seeing 83 Watts or so.
Hi there,
First off, is your name a supernatural reference? (sam and dean winchester) if so, you win free expedited responses all day :D
I personally call every time I need an RMA, I don't like automated services personally as I'd rather talk to someone employed by the company. imo, its like avoiding self-checkout to ensure the checkout lady has a job.
78 watts is not bad and is nothing something I'd probably RMA for. I've seen 85+ on my most recent I RMA'd. I've yet to see one that stays under. Generally speaking, the biggest disadvantage beyond flat out not getting what you paid for is the card will be 24/7 power limited.
IF it's pulling that much from the slot, its not balancing the power cable voltages correctly.
Use GPUz and click to have the values show MAX, game a bit (different games) and see what you get!
Personally some of the games I've gotten the highest draw from are Doom Eternal, RD2, Modern Warfare and Madden.
Praying to god my newest replacement is better than my last.
First of all, I get that Supernatural Part asked a lot😅. But no, I have to pass on the free expedited responses. I talked to the EVGA Germany Facebook support and she recommended opening an RMA. The 78 Watt are on the 450 Watt BIOS. The highest number I remember with the 500 Watt BIOS was 83 (it could be, that the power draw was higher, as I said, the highest I remember) Of course I have Screenshots gpu-z (but only with the standard bios). I used Farcry New Dawn (don't ask🤣) for loading the GPU and the card power limited in between 380-420 watt. Benchmarking in Timespy I hit almost 460 with the Stock OC Bios (which wouldn't be a problem for me without the "out of spec" Draw on the pcie slot). So something seems off with the power limit, as it's all over the place. Without this thread I wouldn't even have noticed, that there is a Problem. But now I'm worried about my old x99 Board🤣. Edit: I added a screenshot of GPU-Z after running Timespy. As you can see, i have all the Weirdness of the Card in one single Picture (including Sun Surface Temps and Jet Engine RPM)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:12:30
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One up for the winchesters!!!!! 15 years went by fast!!!!! I would not worry about your readings on the slot. I'm running the 1k bios and I have it set for 650 watts which is the max the cards suck without shunting. I average 90 with 100 peaks at the slot. Remeber these cards have 120 watt fuses for the slot so they are ment to handle the load. The balance issue imo is more of a problem for not letting the card draw more from the pci power plugs. And the bios does have something to do about it. On the 1k bios my 3rd pci power port hits 200 with the other 2 in the 180s. Before on the xoc bios my port 3 was always trailing the first 2
My Problem with the card is, I paid about 2700 USD for it, so I expect it to perform perfectly and not overstress my other components by drawing to much from the weakest link and not enough from the strong ones.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:32:03
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with no disrespect...
your card is working fine. a 10 percent variance of the voltage spec is allowed and is part of the spec. and its not stressing out other components. Its doing what evga HAS advertised. this entire thread is for people complaining about there cards not overclocking as well as they hoped with the xoc bios. But keep in mind evga NEVER advertised how their cards would preform with the extra juice. You got what you paid for with all due respect. It may not be what you HOPED for though...
Like i said Im throwing 650 watts at my card and its taking it like a champ with the help of the optimus cooler.
Also keep in mind regarding the pci power at the slot. The spec calls for EACH slot to have 75 watts. so add up the slots on your mobo and thats how much it is designed for. So do you really think an extra 7 watts over is going to do anything to your mobo? Not trying to be negative here. Just trying see if the hassle of an RMA for something that is really not an issue is worth it...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:34:46
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And your pic of gpu z is perfect for the 450 bios. and the fact that you have only 70C max temp for air cooling is very impressive. I was hitting 84C!!!!!!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:40:17
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with no disrespect...
your card is working fine. a 10 percent variance of the voltage spec is allowed and is part of the spec. and its not stressing out other components. Its doing what evga HAS advertised. this entire thread is for people complaining about there cards not overclocking as well as they hoped with the xoc bios. But keep in mind evga NEVER advertised how their cards would preform with the extra juice. You got what you paid for with all due respect. It may not be what you HOPED for though...
Like i said Im throwing 650 watts at my card and its taking it like a champ with the help of the optimus cooler.
Also keep in mind regarding the pci power at the slot. The spec calls for EACH slot to have 75 watts. so add up the slots on your mobo and thats how much it is designed for. So do you really think an extra 7 watts over is going to do anything to your mobo? Not trying to be negative here. Just trying see if the hassle of an RMA for something that is really not an issue is worth it...
I was talking to an Employee of EVGA Germany on Facebook what i should do and she recommended to me, to RMA the Card. Thats the only reason, i am here asking you guys, what "Reason for RMA" you chose on the Form. I know that some Cards here perform much worse than mine, but i simply am concerned about the higher than intended PCIE Power Draw. I could only hold that temp on 100% Fanspeed and open Sidepanel.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:44:35
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god503
with no disrespect...
your card is working fine. a 10 percent variance of the voltage spec is allowed and is part of the spec. and its not stressing out other components. Its doing what evga HAS advertised. this entire thread is for people complaining about there cards not overclocking as well as they hoped with the xoc bios. But keep in mind evga NEVER advertised how their cards would preform with the extra juice. You got what you paid for with all due respect. It may not be what you HOPED for though...
Like i said Im throwing 650 watts at my card and its taking it like a champ with the help of the optimus cooler.
Also keep in mind regarding the pci power at the slot. The spec calls for EACH slot to have 75 watts. so add up the slots on your mobo and thats how much it is designed for. So do you really think an extra 7 watts over is going to do anything to your mobo? Not trying to be negative here. Just trying see if the hassle of an RMA for something that is really not an issue is worth it...
I was talking to an Employee of EVGA Germany on Facebook what i should do and she recommended to me, to RMA the Card. Thats the only reason, i am here asking you guys, what "Reason for RMA" you chose on the Form.
I know that some Cards here perform much worse than mine, but i simply am concerned about the higher than intended PCIE Power Draw.
I could only hold that temp on 100% Fanspeed and open Sidepanel.
those employees are not even technicians. I guarantee if you rma it, the one they send you will do the same exact thing. again the power draw is with in spec and that is only a max peak reading, its not constant. And i was pulling 84c with an open case during winter in NYC with the windows open!!!!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 09:56:58
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Uh, I probably should know this already but,
If I do get my card notification, and I live in the EU, does that mean I can't buy it? Just today noticed something about NA only but hell, if I've been waiting all this time for nothin I might go over to scalpers...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 10:09:46
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You need to join the queue on the European website. I'm afraid, you have to wait again for several month or pay the price, the retailer asks you for🙈
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 10:18:48
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You could use a shipping service that does US to UK shipping.
As far as RMA just for power being a little over.. I wouldn't bother. If the card works, you're seeing advertised performance and you're not over clocking, you have a working card. I don't know why you would trade in, pay money for a refurb card that would likely behave the same.
After flashing a few firmwares yesterday, I finally got my card to go over 400w. My highest was just under 460 with this firmware now, but at least consistently puts out 450. Previously I was able to get max 420w, but would rarely ever get there.
The benefit to this was being able to OC another 50mhz on the GPU without crashing. So I went from +200 mem +100 GPU to +200 mem +150 GPU.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 10:44:02
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MiztahSparklez
You could use a shipping service that does US to UK shipping.
As far as RMA just for power being a little over.. I wouldn't bother. If the card works, you're seeing advertised performance and you're not over clocking, you have a working card. I don't know why you would trade in, pay money for a refurb card that would likely behave the same.
After flashing a few firmwares yesterday, I finally got my card to go over 400w. My highest was just under 460 with this firmware now, but at least consistently puts out 450. Previously I was able to get max 420w, but would rarely ever get there.
The benefit to this was being able to OC another 50mhz on the GPU without crashing. So I went from +200 mem +100 GPU to +200 mem +150 GPU.
Did you use time spy extreme??? That's the only benchmark that I have noticed that gets my card to suck out the most juice
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 11:12:33
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 11:13:48
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god503
with no disrespect...
your card is working fine. a 10 percent variance of the voltage spec is allowed and is part of the spec. and its not stressing out other components. Its doing what evga HAS advertised. this entire thread is for people complaining about there cards not overclocking as well as they hoped with the xoc bios. But keep in mind evga NEVER advertised how their cards would preform with the extra juice. You got what you paid for with all due respect. It may not be what you HOPED for though...
Like i said Im throwing 650 watts at my card and its taking it like a champ with the help of the optimus cooler.
Also keep in mind regarding the pci power at the slot. The spec calls for EACH slot to have 75 watts. so add up the slots on your mobo and thats how much it is designed for. So do you really think an extra 7 watts over is going to do anything to your mobo? Not trying to be negative here. Just trying see if the hassle of an RMA for something that is really not an issue is worth it...
I was talking to an Employee of EVGA Germany on Facebook what i should do and she recommended to me, to RMA the Card. Thats the only reason, i am here asking you guys, what "Reason for RMA" you chose on the Form.
I know that some Cards here perform much worse than mine, but i simply am concerned about the higher than intended PCIE Power Draw.
I could only hold that temp on 100% Fanspeed and open Sidepanel.
those employees are not even technicians. I guarantee if you rma it, the one they send you will do the same exact thing. again the power draw is with in spec and that is only a max peak reading, its not constant. And i was pulling 84c with an open case during winter in NYC with the windows open!!!!
Good point. I was just assuming, that someone working there might have talked with a technician before recommending an RMA and possibly extra cost for EVGA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 11:46:06
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At the end of the day each consumer is different (some like blonde ruby some like brunette) and to be honest, if i saw 83+ watts from my pcie-slot and the card was clearly not hitting what I've seen other cards do because of this, I will 100% rma. If this happened on a midline card, I'd certainly keep and use that provided "god/chuck logic" :P At 1800 dollars for the "Top of the line card" which is 15-20% better than the 100% less expensive 3080. AND I got the FT3 ultra version instead of the slightly less ultra xc3. lol
I don't at all feel bad for being picky about my purchase and neither should you.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 12:39:01
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Hahahahahaha. Just finished binge watching all 15 myself
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 13:06:39
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Lord Winchester
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with no disrespect...
your card is working fine. a 10 percent variance of the voltage spec is allowed and is part of the spec. and its not stressing out other components. Its doing what evga HAS advertised. this entire thread is for people complaining about there cards not overclocking as well as they hoped with the xoc bios. But keep in mind evga NEVER advertised how their cards would preform with the extra juice. You got what you paid for with all due respect. It may not be what you HOPED for though...
Like i said Im throwing 650 watts at my card and its taking it like a champ with the help of the optimus cooler.
Also keep in mind regarding the pci power at the slot. The spec calls for EACH slot to have 75 watts. so add up the slots on your mobo and thats how much it is designed for. So do you really think an extra 7 watts over is going to do anything to your mobo? Not trying to be negative here. Just trying see if the hassle of an RMA for something that is really not an issue is worth it...
I was talking to an Employee of EVGA Germany on Facebook what i should do and she recommended to me, to RMA the Card. Thats the only reason, i am here asking you guys, what "Reason for RMA" you chose on the Form.
I know that some Cards here perform much worse than mine, but i simply am concerned about the higher than intended PCIE Power Draw.
I could only hold that temp on 100% Fanspeed and open Sidepanel.
those employees are not even technicians. I guarantee if you rma it, the one they send you will do the same exact thing. again the power draw is with in spec and that is only a max peak reading, its not constant. And i was pulling 84c with an open case during winter in NYC with the windows open!!!!
Good point.
I was just assuming, that someone working there might have talked with a technician before recommending an RMA and possibly extra cost for EVGA
Imho, you have a great card for everyday usage, gaming and normal benching. If you are heavy into benching the majority of the time then maybe consider the kingpin with the normal, oc and ln2 bios settings. Remember, the Crowley’s in the detail.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 15:16:15
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EVGA support is about as useful as tits on a man
Question1/26/2021 7:09:21 PM
So the BIOS says the max power allowed is 500w. At full utilization the PCI-E slot is 75w, 8pin #1 is at 150w, 8pin #2 is at 140w, and 8pin 3 is at 75w and the card throttles due to hitting power limits. Even though all together the card is only pulling 440w. That math doesn't add up. How can a BIOS be set to allow a max of 500w, the card pull 440w and throttle due to power, and 8pin #3 is pulling only 75w yet all that be normal and as designed?
Answer1/27/2021 2:22:23 PM
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out about the BIOS. That BIOS give the card the ability to hit that limit, but the limit is determined by your system and the card itself. Unfortunately, we only guarantee the clock speeds on the card. It seems like your system doesn't like being at or above 440W and we recommend going back down to 435W or lower to keep the system stable. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Regards,
EVGA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/01/27 16:00:56
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You should not (and will not be allowed to) RMA your card for it drawing 78W, there's a BIOS update coming for the BAR beeswax that might also help with power balancing issues - I spoke with Support about this, they will not authorize an RMA just for the card either not hitting 500W draw because the BIOS is still in BETA and/or it drawing slightly over spec on the PCIe slot.
That's an official response from an eVGA rep, so take it how you will. The card isn't going to spontaenously combust from drawing 3W over the single slot spec - maybe if you run it like that 24/7 for a few years straight, but even then, I don't think it's THAT big of an issue. It's something they SHOULD fix, because the Kingpin I have doesn't draw anywhere near even 75W so far from the slot and that's with me seeing as high as 535W draw on the 520W BIOS.
And again, how many cards have been through LN2 OCing and still work, despite drawing 600-700-800+W (albeit for short periods for benchmarks, but still, point is what it is). If you're continually seeing something higher like 90W, that's a different story because that plainly should not be happening on an un-modded 3090 that isn't a Kingpin on the 1000W BIOS.
My 3090 FTW3 Hybrid is up on for sale now, hopefully it goes to someone with a brain - already had two messages asking questions about it when the answers for said questions were IN the description (Why are you selling it - because of I got a Kingpin, what temps did you get - also in the description lol). Some people just can't be helped.
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