Dabadger84

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I have never seen such erratic readings from my 3987 (3090 FTW3 Ultra). My bet is that you have something wrong with the sensor IC on your board that unfortunately will require an RMA. Go open a support ticket and see what they say.

 
This is one of many reasons I don't think it's an issue that actually needs to be RMAed for:
 
https://youtu.be/ayGS51-xl5g?t=519
 
It happened to them as well, as I said in a previous post.  This isn't some random thing, I think a lot of people are encountering it either unknowingly, or without even catching it happening - remember that software like HWInfo64 and even the plotting/logging software in Precision X1 itself, only logs every 1-2 seconds, these blips are happening for just a moment, not a long or notably period of time, and they're clearly an error and not something to be extremely concerned about - but it's still going to bug me until I know more or see more people experiencing it as well.

Injoemomma
Can someone please help me? I want to pair my 3090 FTW3 hybrid with a 10900k. I need a case that has amazing airflow and can hold 360mm aio for cpu and 360mm aio for gpu (once I upgrade to the Kingpin 3090 hybrid). The only part I have currently for this build is my 3090 ftw3 hybrid gpu. I can’t find a case that will hold 2 360mm AIOs. I also need a guide as what are the best parts to get. All the big youtubers are going with AMD for their builds so it’s hard to find a good example.

Kylearan
 
I mentioned this already but it seems everyone ignored me.  Either people WANT to ignore me or they're too busy complaining about bioses,
But this bug started happening in the 457.xx driver branch.  It does NOT happen in hotfix driver 456.98 (and I used that driver for a VERY long time), nor does it happen in 456.38 studio driver.
On cards without your memory temp monitoring, you see 'flashes' of "PWR/Therm" in GPU-Z (shows up as a Therm "flag" in hwinfo64), usually it happens when a load changes drastically, but sometimes it happens at idle but if it does happen, it seems to only happen when some type of load changes occurs somewhere.
 
I suggest reporting this bug to Nvidia.

Dwayne_Johnson
Did anyone run the KP-BIOS on his FTW3 Ultra?
It works on a ASUS Strix (like the EVGA-brand unfriendly 500-BIOS)
 
 
btw:
Did anyone (with aircooled GPU) replace the original thermal paste with better thermal paste (e.g. Thermal Grizzly)?

ekwk1983
I have a question and it might already be covered here.
I have a Hybrid Kit that's coming for my 3090 FTW3 Ultra. In this case, do I use the ULTRA bios still or the Hybrid bios?
Thanks all in advance.

Dwayne_Johnson
btw:
Did anyone (with aircooled GPU) replace the original thermal paste with better thermal paste (e.g. Thermal Grizzly)?

Paynal
Hey Kylearan/Falkentyne,
 
Saw your post in the "Kingpin Power Draw Issues" thread asking people to run Timespy Extreme and check their TDP vs TDP Normalized results.  I've got a red-lipped 2014 Taiwan 3090 FTW3 Ultra on the XOC BIOS rather than a Kingpin, so I'm posting the results I got here instead of there.
 
TDP% maxed out at 107.9%
TDP% Normalized maxed out at 110.1%
TDP Slider% set to 119%
 
Currently running undervolted at 0.881V with a custom curve and my total power draw topped out at 448.121W.  Best I've ever seen in 3dmark or Quake II RTX has been about 460.1W with the same settings as this TSE run. PCIE Slot draw peaked at 80.1W, the other 3 PCIE lines were all pretty evenly balanced.  I'm basically power limited all through Graphics Test 2, but ok elsewhere.
 
Hope this helps you find what you're looking for with getting to the bottom of these odd power issues.
 
 

changboy
 I dont know how many games you play but me if i undervolt my card and keeping some oc then i will have some crash in some games sometimes and i hate this. I do a long mission and my card crash near the end grrr, not really my taste. I more keep my voltage and dont have any crash in game.

Paynal

Dabadger84
 
1980MHz at that low of voltage eh?  I haven't really pushed the limits on undevolting yet, neat to see that should be possible though.  I've found that 2040 @ 994mV is a pretty happy medium for me so far, haven't pushed to see if I can go lower than that on the voltage, pretty sure I could, but even just that results in several degrees lower load temps while being a nice increase in performance over "stock" boost speeds on the 3090 Hybrid.
 

 
Ayup, this chip hates voltage but still wants to fly, if I can keep it from smacking its head on the PL or getting too warm (I'm on air, but I'll admit I keep eyeing those Hybrid retrofit kits...).  I've been playing with undervolting it for about 3 weeks now, and it consistently runs anything under 1995mhz *better* at under 0.993V, even when the temps are the same.  It's so close to doing 1980 at .875, it'll pass Port Royal every time and play at least some games (not tested that too much), but will periodically bomb Timespy.  I bet if I could keep it chilled or if there was a voltage step around .878 it would pass -- it'll do 1965/.875 decently.  1980 at .881 is looking like the sweet spot, benched for hours at that and hit it with an hour of Quake 2 RTX at 4K/120hz without issue -- only complains about being PLed, never voltage (it does step down the expected number of bins due to heat as it'll be around 70*C after an hour on the stock OC fan curve, but stays stable and also drops its voltage to .868-.875 as if to apologize). I still need to see if it will do this in VR, that's always touchy about stability.
 
2040 @ .994 is very sweet!  You should definitely try exploring around the .875-.881 mark with the extra cooling power you have from the Hybrid kit, I bet you'll get some great results.  Mine seems to have a barrier at 1995 I haven't been able to beat reliably, it PLs hard and then destabilizes, or gets warm and downclocks if I raise the voltage.  I've at least managed some successful suicide runs of Port Royal at 2000-2040/.925 (not a typo!) on the high end for speed, and 1950-1965 at .862 on the low end for voltage, but neither were remotely stable.  Still need to see how low it can go while still at or above 1800mhz sometime for laughs, I almost wonder if I could get it below 0.850 at this rate.

Kylearan
 
Someone said that increasing MSVDD and MVDDC voltages with the classified tool (I believe it was to 1.125v and 1.40v) helped raise the internal power limits that were triggering this throttling on Kingpin cards.
 
This won't help on your card as you don't have access to these voltages.  The only thing that will address this is an eVGA Bios update or a shunt mod.  Your card is drawing a lot from the PCIE slot, relative to the 8 pins, but it still isn't 100% clear if it's just the PCIE draw limiting you or if it's another power rail.  I know that the Founder's Edition will throttle at 79.9W PCIE Slot (you would only reach this if you shunt modded WITHOUT shunt modding the PCIE slot), even though the vbios dump says the PCIE limit is 86.2W...
 
The "good" thing is that your TDP and TDP Normalized are very close to each other at least, so the rails "think" they are balanced.

cerealkeller
Has anyone been able to update Precision X using the XC3 bios without being asked to update firmware? I think I’m on 1.1.1 still
Regarding clocks, I’ve been running +70/+900 on the XC3 BIOS with whatever voltage it gives me since the curve doesn’t work and I don’t have the voltage turned up. I think it’s 2040 after thermal throttling 2070 without, I think, it may actually be 2100, but it never actually runs there. Maybe once I get my water block. Soon I hope.
It’s been very stable though, for Red Dead 2 and Cyberpunk 2077, what I’ve been playing lately.

USMC1419
I have a FTW3 Hybrid that seems to OC okay, but I don't know how to set up a voltage curve. Is this the thing in PX1 with the OC tuner you can do it on? 
 
My KP arrives tomorrow and I'll be giving my first go with the classified tool and seeing what I can figure out. I wish I knew more about GPU OC'ing. I'm fairly decent with CPUs, but this is a new world to me. I'm used to just dragging sliders and hitting apply for GPUs.

Dabadger84

USMC1419
I have a FTW3 Hybrid that seems to OC okay, but I don't know how to set up a voltage curve. Is this the thing in PX1 with the OC tuner you can do it on? 
 
My KP arrives tomorrow and I'll be giving my first go with the classified tool and seeing what I can figure out. I wish I knew more about GPU OC'ing. I'm fairly decent with CPUs, but this is a new world to me. I'm used to just dragging sliders and hitting apply for GPUs.

Undervolting with Precision is a royal pain in the butt, I use Afterburner for undervolting specifically, because you can drag one box & it will setup the whole line, instead of having to adjust each one individually, example on the left side of this image: