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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 04:00:23 (permalink)
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Thats a super impressive clock speed and average!!!!
I have a few questions if you dont mind. Monitoring such a small amount of voltage worries me that I wouldnt know exactly if the card is using to much power even with my powerbar reading. Could anything get damaged using this bios even if the temps were under control? Do you use any of the voltage slider in afterburner?
Even if the card will have warranty using this I still dont think im knowledge enough yet to use it. Any useful links for me to read up on would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again for all the info.


The voltage readings don't go above 1.1V, which is stock. I've been using the XC3 VBIOS for benchmarking for over a month, and have used it for a daily driver for a week straight. I waited to make it a daily driver due to the increased heat that my hybrid kit keeps down at 64C instead of 78C.

The voltage slider doesn't really do anything other than let the card use "up to" 1.1V., which is stock.

No other links for it because this is a user found "fix" for whatever hardware / balancing problem that many EVGA 3090 FTW3 cards have that power limit them even as low as 390W on a 500W VBIOS.

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Quick recap of what i have seen, XC3 Bios on my FTW3 Ultra is a current fix? 

No? It's a power limit fix, not current limit fix from what I've seen. Unless you make that reference to point out that voltage is also not stepped down so heavily.

Thanks thats good to know. I ordered the hybrid cooler less than 48hours ago and apparently it arrives today. Did you did any extra thermal pads or anything with the cooler install?
Im going to connect the fans to my fan controller like you mentioned. 
Ill report back back onces its up and running.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 06:05:48 (permalink)
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Thanks thats good to know. I ordered the hybrid cooler less than 48hours ago and apparently it arrives today. Did you did any extra thermal pads or anything with the cooler install?
Im going to connect the fans to my fan controller like you mentioned. 
Ill report back back onces its up and running.


The only thing that I changed is that I didn't use the pre-applied TIM on the cold plate. I replaced it with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut because I wanted a thick coating to be sure of good coverage.

Just be careful after you take off the plastic shields from the putty/pads. They can get stuck on other things if you aren't careful, and can be partially stripped off or indented/deformed.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 11:45:18 (permalink)
The 1kW bios works fine on Strix 3090 also, in case no one reported it yet. Though it is now voltage or load limited only, never power limited.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 12:54:51 (permalink)
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The 1kW bios works fine on Strix 3090 also, in case no one reported it yet. Though it is now voltage or load limited only, never power limited.



You need to make 100% completely perfectly sure that you have absolutely NO problems with misplaced thermal pads or GPU cold plate contact with that bios.  I don't think people take this seriously enough.  With all thermal protections disabled, you're at the mercy of the hardwired Thermal Trip (this is 125C on an intel CPU) safety net preventing your GPU from frying if something overheats.  And that will do nothing if your GDDR6X overheats or VRM's overheat!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 13:33:40 (permalink)
  The 1000w bios wont work fine on any card unless you are on ln2 or in Space, the only thing it will do its adding stress on ur chip for 0 performance increase and even lost of performance and this also with a strix platted gold with diamond on it. So funny :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 13:39:19 (permalink)
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 This can help some of you for install the hybrid cooling :
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2XeFciC8Ig




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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 13:41:56 (permalink)
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The only thing that I changed is that I didn't use the pre-applied TIM on the cold plate. I replaced it with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut because I wanted a thick coating to be sure of good coverage.

Just be careful after you take off the plastic shields from the putty/pads. They can get stuck on other things if you aren't careful, and can be partially stripped off or indented/deformed.



Thanks brother, I see there that guy had to flash to the New PX1 to the pump to work? As I told you before I'm using XC3 Ultra BIOS and I want to stick with it, any version of PX1 above 1.1.1 will try to flash the firmware and then brick my card like it happened last time. How did you manage to keep the XC3 BIOS and what version of PX1 are you using?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 13:45:13 (permalink)
Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 13:52:38 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 


 In 2 days :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 14:45:27 (permalink)
So, this has probably been asked, but where do I get the Kingpin OC BIOS from? I only see the XOC and FTW3 bios here.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 14:53:39 (permalink)
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  The 1000w bios wont work fine on any card unless you are on ln2 or in Space, the only thing it will do its adding stress on ur chip for 0 performance increase and even lost of performance and this also with a strix platted gold with diamond on it. So funny :)


LOL, I think you can remove the condition "in Space" since there is no heat transfer medium in vacuum space and heat radiation effect is weak without special design, the temp could rise faster than on air.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 16:39:44 (permalink)
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  The 1000w bios wont work fine on any card unless you are on ln2 or in Space, the only thing it will do its adding stress on ur chip for 0 performance increase and even lost of performance and this also with a strix platted gold with diamond on it. So funny :)


LOL, I think you can remove the condition "in Space" since there is no heat transfer medium in vacuum space and heat radiation effect is weak without special design, the temp could rise faster than on air.


Never thought of that...makes sense since there are few air particles to transfer the heat to.  Someone call nasa we found one of their guys! lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 19:03:32 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 



Considering most of their employees are out of the office for the holidays, that's not likely unfortunately.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 19:22:02 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 


what is not working?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 19:27:42 (permalink)
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  The 1000w bios wont work fine on any card unless you are on ln2 or in Space, the only thing it will do its adding stress on ur chip for 0 performance increase and even lost of performance and this also with a strix platted gold with diamond on it. So funny :)


LOL, I think you can remove the condition "in Space" since there is no heat transfer medium in vacuum space and heat radiation effect is weak without special design, the temp could rise faster than on air.
 Hahaha i made a joke but didnt really think about it and after read ur comment it make sense hehehe funny too :)



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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 21:12:02 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 21:13:12 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 


what is not working?


man how come you ask this when there are 106 pages conplaining about it...

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 21:16:02 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 



Considering most of their employees are out of the office for the holidays, that's not likely unfortunately.


yes true...

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/23 22:00:46 (permalink)
Over 3200 replies so far lol
 
My hybrid cooler arrived today. Will install this week. 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 04:56:14 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 


what is not working?


man how come you ask this when there are 106 pages conplaining about it...

so is useless to install at the moment?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 06:19:35 (permalink)
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Would be a nice Xmas present if EVGA comes with a New XOC 500W BIOS that works 


what is not working?


man how come you ask this when there are 106 pages conplaining about it...

so is useless to install at the moment?


Install it.  It will not do any harm.  People have had different results with it.  The worst it will do is nothing.  No harm no foul.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 10:57:01 (permalink)
I'm more than a little weary of doing BIOS modifications until I have a backup card again, so for now, won't be testing different BIOSes, just gonna stick with the default ones.
 
But the viewpoint of "try it out" on the 500W XOC Beta BIOS is correct, at worst it just won't help you OC further etc, at best, you'll get a performance boost.  It won't HURT anything, I've used it enough to confirm that.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 14:25:26 (permalink)
Got my hybrid kit in yesterday and put it together today.  I read and reread the instructions until I understood the complete process of what goes where and who shot John.  Went pretty smooth except the rad fan connection was tight and never seated completely. Anyway, idling @ 23c.  Oh, I did remove thermal paste from the pump and put grizzly hydronaut on the gpu.
 
Made a couple of quick passes:
Time Spy:  @ 800/160  19,455  average temp 49c 16667772 (end of url)
Port Royal: @ 800/175  14,311  average temp 49c  686329    (end of url)
Pretty pleased with it. Used conversion bios' (normal first, oc second).
 
Help, every time I copy a link to paste in my message it shows just fine in the message box but disappears when I post it.  Any advice?
post edited by JaxMacFL - 2020/12/24 15:16:08

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 16:41:54 (permalink)
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Help, every time I copy a link to paste in my message it shows just fine in the message box but disappears when I post it.  Any advice?


Yeah, until you have 10 posts you have to break the URL up like so: www. Goggle .con
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 17:32:03 (permalink)
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Help, every time I copy a link to paste in my message it shows just fine in the message box but disappears when I post it.  Any advice?


Yeah, until you have 10 posts you have to break the URL up like so: www. Goggle .con

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 17:54:01 (permalink)
By conversion bios, did you mean the higher power limit hybrid bios? And do you have the 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 17:57:00 (permalink)
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Got my hybrid kit in yesterday and put it together today.  I read and reread the instructions until I understood the complete process of what goes where and who shot John.  Went pretty smooth except the rad fan connection was tight and never seated completely. Anyway, idling @ 23c.  Oh, I did remove thermal paste from the pump and put grizzly hydronaut on the gpu.
 
Made a couple of quick passes:
Time Spy:  @ 800/160  19,455  average temp 49c 16667772 (end of url)
Port Royal: @ 800/175  14,311  average temp 49c  686329    (end of url)
Pretty pleased with it. Used conversion bios' (normal first, oc second).
 
Help, every time I copy a link to paste in my message it shows just fine in the message box but disappears when I post it.  Any advice?


By conversion bios, did you mean the higher power limit hybrid bios? And do you have the 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 18:08:33 (permalink)
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Got my hybrid kit in yesterday and put it together today.  I read and reread the instructions until I understood the complete process of what goes where and who shot John.  Went pretty smooth except the rad fan connection was tight and never seated completely. Anyway, idling @ 23c.  Oh, I did remove thermal paste from the pump and put grizzly hydronaut on the gpu.
 
Made a couple of quick passes:
Time Spy:  @ 800/160  19,455  average temp 49c 16667772 (end of url)
Port Royal: @ 800/175  14,311  average temp 49c  686329    (end of url)
Pretty pleased with it. Used conversion bios' (normal first, oc second).
 
Help, every time I copy a link to paste in my message it shows just fine in the message box but disappears when I post it.  Any advice?


By conversion bios, did you mean the higher power limit hybrid bios? And do you have the 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/24 18:24:57 (permalink)
My latest warranty/RMA replacement card is a 2012 serial number card made in China.  On the default OC bios I can't get it to reliably draw 400 watts and on the XOC BIOS it draws 430-440 watts peak watts.  That's using the same games and benchmarks that draw 430-450 watts on the default OC BIOS and 560+watts using the XOC BIOS on my 2014 serial number card that I'm returning for RMA.  So much for the theory that the 2012 series number cards have a higher likelihood of working well with the XOC BIOS.
 
EDIT: I was able to fix the issue.  For some reason uninstalling PX1, rebooting, then reinstalling PX1 worked.
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2020/12/25 10:56:15 (permalink)
 When i got my ftw3 ultra i put the xoc bios and never really tried my card with port royal with original bios.
My port royal score with xoc bios is : 14 257
My port royal score with original bios : 14 264 lol
 
My card still on air cooling and i never success to flash my card with other bios and always have error message : cant read the file or something like that hehehe, i dont know why but like i said i have a LSI sata card in port pcie 3 and i never try to remove it and try flashing my bios.
So its seam the xoc bios dosent really increase my performance at all hahaha.
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