evgauser28764
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 00:02:27
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how about the 800w bios you provided to gamersnexus
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 00:05:07
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evgauser28764 how about the 800w bios you provided to gamersnexus
I asked Jacob and EVGA's tech support that question directly - neither said that they have that VBIOS, which leads me to believe that it's a Kingpin thing. With that said, I too would like to see at least a 480W VBIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Higher would be nicer, to be able to thumb my nose at those Strix OC folks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 00:17:34
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480 W is not enough, the 3090 FTW3 would be still power-limited. A 520 W bios would be better, and respecting the PCI-e power specifications (525 W max with 3 8 pins cables).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 00:18:50
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3090 FTW3 XOC Bios needed urgently as well please.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 00:35:14
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Great bios, very stable, have tried several games and no problem. Only tested the normal one, will try tomorrow the OC one for the more aggressive fan profile..
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 00:37:05
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bloodshot45 All hail the new KING!!
This was done on air with highest temps reaching 69c for this specific test. RIP Strix OC
What's your other specs, and what are your OC settings?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 01:07:39
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Took the wattage measurements with the new 450W bios using my Corsair HXI 850 From the PSU to the PC, NOT from the wall. NOT OCED, just power slider on 118% in PX1. Doesn't include power spikes. Gaming load = 630W MAX full system load = 715W
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 01:18:28
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Tried it out, couldn't get any higher memory or core clocks but my score did go up a bit on uniengine, at this point I don't think I can push it anymore without watercooling, idle is 27c and 59c at load with 18c ambient, but tomorrow i will be able to bring ambient down to 4c so hopefully that will get a bit closer to water numbers if not a bit past them, that should allow it to boost a bit higher without being able to get more on the core or mem oc
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 02:10:18
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 02:25:16
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oooohhh, you guys already had me 100% on board, now your just taunting me. Keep up the awesome work EVGA!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 02:32:29
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 02:46:19
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I don't think there's any physical way you could blow up the card with the BIOS they're providing at the start of this thread, it doesn't make the card go over it's actual power spec limit based on the plug capacity etc, nor does in increase voltage, or allow the card to go beyond it's spec in terms of cooling vs temperature, if you go above it's rated temp, it will still throttle, so I would guess it doesn't void your warranty, no. As a side note, my card is not running any hotter as a result of this BIOS update, even with the power limit & voltage sliders maxed with an OC applied.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 03:22:44
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This... This is why I love EVGA! BLESS YOUR COTTON SOCKS JACOB!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 03:46:41
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jp_no10 Does it void warranty?
https://www.evga.com/support/faq/FAQdetails.aspx?faqid=55 Give him all the juice you like :) I mean, would be kinda ridiculous if it did void warranty, since EVGA has released the OC bios themselves. Using 800Watt bios might void it :D
Sweet, thanks! Also this topic should be pinned.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:16:15
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https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/393322/pr/400483 Same memory and GPU core OC between them, nothing changed but the bios. Great job EVGA, I was already a fan and your business practices continue to reinforce that. Yeah it's only 1% but hey, free upgrades are free. Zero complaints.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:17:45
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bloodshot45 All hail the new KING!!
This was done on air with highest temps reaching 69c for this specific test. RIP Strix OC
What's your other specs, and what are your OC settings?
ok NICE JOB now i will have to get home and try to Crush that score lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:18:15
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Hi Jacob, if you can share def Bios too it will be easier for everyone to turn back.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:46:45
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jankerson Well 1st off thanks a bunch. However I must have the worst piece of silicone I could get... ZERO, NADDA, ZIPPO improvement in clocks. My card will not do 2100 period, no matter what will not do it.... I even lost 10 MHz on clock in Port Royal and Superposition. This is depressing.... I gained nothing.... I think I got a bum card....
As I posted on the previous page: "An increased power limit won't make a previously unstable frequency suddenly stable. Never will. Never, ever. That is a silicon quality thing, and also depends on voltage and temperature and signal integrity and all sorts of other things which power limit can't fix. An increased power limit affects how much the GPU will boost and how soon it will start tapering off to lower boosts. That's it. I think that you will see that at the SAME over clock which was previously stable, your benchmark scores will be higher. Not because the maximum stable frequency is higher. Instead, because the average frequency is higher."
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:48:43
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bkhan530 This is what makes EVGA one of the best AIBs. Most others would have ignored their customers but EVGA listened and delivered a new bios, good job guys keep it up!
Kind of an odd statement. If they had just made the power limit what was promised to begin with they wouldn't have needed to do this. Surely doing it right from the start is better.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:49:17
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Can this be used on FTW3 Gaming also?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:53:10
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SAVIAR Hi Jacob, if you can share def Bios too it will be easier for everyone to turn back.
I'm curious why you'd want the default bios? Because you can always just leave the card at default and not apply any oc. Or just oc it to where it would've stopped in default at I think 105% for power limit. I think all these bios did was unleash the power limit to go to 118%.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:58:34
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Can this be used on FT3 non-ultra/gaming? don't see why not as same board and GPUs are not binned? Good work EVGA thanks. Now just please ship my card hehe
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 04:58:54
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Awesome. So more power should allow more steady boost clocks then? My FTW3 ultra works great at 2085Mhz but once I hit the watt limit it dropped. I assume this should keep it stable up there
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:01:14
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s1n3rgy Can this be used on FT3 non-ultra/gaming? don't see why not as same board and GPUs are not binned? Good work EVGA thanks. Now just please ship my card hehe
I don't have the card yet myself, but it looks like it's should work. When you open the .exe file it launches the CMD to flash the 3080 bios so I think it will work on FTW 3 Gaming also. Would be great if someone can confirm though
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:10:27
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So, what about the temperatures under humanly acceptable fan speeds? Does the air cooler hold up or we need at least the Hybrid Kit?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:10:48
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That port royal score is not that impressive, is that with the OC bios? I got a similar score with my 3080 FTW3 Ultra using the non OC bios....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:19:39
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Yes it could be make as you said. But some users may observe strange behaviors so it could be useful for them.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:25:01
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Want the 800w bios not this. I guess paying customers aren't important enough to bother with. I couldnt care less about warranty. *ipromisenottormathiscard* Word
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:29:13
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bkhan530 This is what makes EVGA one of the best AIBs. Most others would have ignored their customers but EVGA listened and delivered a new bios, good job guys keep it up!
Kind of an odd statement. If they had just made the power limit what was promised to begin with they wouldn't have needed to do this. Surely doing it right from the start is better.
I think what was promised was 420w so they actually have gone beyond that which they didn't have to do.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 (3897) XOC BIOS BETA
2020/10/15 05:36:39
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nycx360 I have 2 strix ocs and only 1 ftw3 atm. I was going to flash the strix bios today, but this bios saves me the hassle, so its much appreciated. Now that they are both 450 watt. 3090 bios would be nice since the strix is 480 on that. However, I am still power limited. I would say the ftw3 cooler does a better job at 100% fan than the strix cooler does, even though by looks and build the strix oc looks more beefy and effective. I think the ftw3 card has some catching up to do compared to the strix but it is 40 bucks less at 809 vs 849. Hopefully we can get a true xoc bios
Oddly I'm in a similar boat. I accidentally ended up with a FTW3 Ultra and a StrixOC trying to rush through a checkout though the Newegg App last week. Now with performance likely being functionally equal at worst (I haven't tried out the FTW3 yet but I will), I'm left trying to decide how much value I place on the second HDMI 2 port. Strix OC is beautiful no doubt, but from the side both cards are beautiful. FTW3 provides a level of peace of mind via Step Up that the Strix simply cannot. But one less HDMI port is a hard limit that I've been meditating over since the card configurations were announced. If I decide to do a 4K 120Hz TV AND a 4K, high refresh monitor next year, I'd have to buy some sort of HDMI switch or manually swap cables when I want to use one vs the other with the card. Where with the Strix, I can have both plugged in and not have to worry about it at all. I guess I'll take another day or two to decide if I prefer 2x HDMI ports vs the potential Step Up to a 3090 or similar in the next 3 months. Man, if the EVGA cards had 2 HDMI ports like all the Asus and Gigabyte cards do, this would have been the easiest decision ever. SIGH.
Why do you need two HDMI 2.1 ports? Wouldn't DisplayPort give.you everything you need for monitor connectivity?
No, DP doesn't have the bandwidth that HDMI 2.1 does. For anything above 4K 120, monitors that offer this require the color bit depth to be reduced, dropping image quality to compensate for the bandwidth limitations of DP. Or they have to use a compression algorithm that reduces quality some. HDMI 2.1 doesn't have to make such compromises. As such, the question is one of future purchase plans than current ones. At some point, I'll want to have a 4K 120Hz TV and a monitor that goes even higher...or even something that can manage 8K. We expect quite a few HDMI 2.1 monitors announced at CES 2021 in just a couple of months. For those, DP won't be ideal if you want to maximize their performance at their highest bitrate settings. The question is whether the day where I own (or want to own) both a TV and monitor capable of better performance than DP can offer comes before the 4000-series cards are out (or, in the next 2 years). Other brands made the conscious decision to future proof in this area, as all the Gigabyte and Asus cards have 2 or more HDMI 2.1 ports. I'll be meditating on that question today as I compare my FTW3 Ultra to my Strix. With this Bios update, I expect them to be equivalent in every performance metric (unlucky bin nothwithstanding). So it's just 2 HDMI ports vs the likelihood that I initiate a Step Up to a 20GB 3080 or a 3090 between now and January. It's a good problem to have, but I often find myself struggling with paralysis of analysis. Hopefully this doesn't end up being one of those times.
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