Dabadger84
So now instead of PwrLmt on GPUz the limited factor I'm getting is VRel, I'm new to using GPUz to figure out why my GPU is being limited, what does that one mean? Voltage Regulation? or what?
It also only got up to 400W power draw during Port Royal on the OC BIOS which used to get up to 420W on the same settings.  I understand it's a beta, just giving my initial experience feedback.
Should I reinstall Drivers after the BIOS update just to be on the safe side?

Make sure your voltage slider is activated and all the way up.  0% should allow 1.050v max iirc, and 100% should allow 1.093v max.

Dabadger84
So now instead of PwrLmt on GPUz the limited factor I'm getting is VRel, I'm new to using GPUz to figure out why my GPU is being limited, what does that one mean? Voltage Regulation? or what?
It also only got up to 400W power draw during Port Royal on the OC BIOS which used to get up to 420W on the same settings.  I understand it's a beta, just giving my initial experience feedback.
Should I reinstall Drivers after the BIOS update just to be on the safe side?

You're now voltage limited. 

chase10784
 Wondering how it compares with the strix now.

I just tested and was able to hold a steady 2100Mhz OC in Wolfenstein: Youngblood and didn't go above 63 degrees. So pretty much just as good if not better.


Now that it's complete I can forget about the Strix and enjoy what I have without any remorse.
This is an amazing card.

lantern48

chase10784
Wondering how it compares with the strix now.

I just tested and was able to hold a steady 2100Mhz OC in Wolfenstein: Youngblood and didn't go above 63 degrees. So pretty much just as good if not better.


Now it's complete and I can forget about the Strix and enjoy what I have without any remorse.
This is an amazing card.

Good to hear, this was the main reason I was holding out for a Strix--well that and I think the Strix is built a little better overall. But I've been burned by terrible ASUS customer service in the past so I'll likely grab an FTW3 if I find one unless I get lucky with a Strix somehow. 

Great job as always Jacob! Any chance the XC3 can receive a little boost as well?

Will the next set of cards come with this BIOS already installed? 

GPU-Z now reports 450W Power Limit!! RIP Asus Strix OC...
 

 
Thanks Jacob! You continue to prove why EVGA has the best customer service in the market.

riku98523

You might need to do some overclocking. The GPU is going to have voltage limits on it's boosting I think. So even if your voltage goes up a bit the gpu is going to stop boosting. Also you will always have a bottleneck somewhere vrel is pretty common.

Start overclocking it by like 25 per benchmark on the gpu and maybe 200 on the memory and just keep going up until you lose stability.

Dabbled with it a bit, got this, and notice the PerfCap Reason is none:
 

 
Only seeing ~431W draw, got a score increase, and the OC was using OC scan (then I rounded it up to 100 cuz yolo).
 
Very interesting indeed.  Seems to be working though.
 
Edit: My mouse is over Board Power Draw so you can see one of the peaks, annoying that the mouse doesn't show up in the screenshot.

Thoughts on whether a RM750x is sufficient for this with a Ryzen 3600 system?

Also have a tower cooler, 4 case fans, 2x SATA SSD, and 1x M.2 NVMe.

nycx360

bkhan530

lantern48

chase10784
Wondering how it compares with the strix now.

I just tested and was able to hold a steady 2100Mhz OC in Wolfenstein: Youngblood and didn't go above 63 degrees. So pretty much just as good if not better.


Now it's complete and I can forget about the Strix and enjoy what I have without any remorse.
This is an amazing card.

Good to hear, this was the main reason I was holding out for a Strix--well that and I think the Strix is built a little better overall. But I've been burned by terrible ASUS customer service in the past so I'll likely grab an FTW3 if I find one unless I get lucky with a Strix somehow. 

bloodshot45
GPU-Z now reports 450W Power Limit!! RIP Asus Strix OC...
 

 
Thanks Jacob! You continue to prove why EVGA has the best customer service in the market.

I have 2 strix ocs and only 1 ftw3 atm. I was going to flash the strix bios today, but this bios saves me the hassle, so its much appreciated. Now that they are both 450 watt. 3090 bios would be nice since the strix is 480 on that. However, I am still power limited. I would say the ftw3 cooler does a better job at 100% fan than the strix cooler does, even though by looks and build the strix oc looks more beefy and effective. I think the ftw3 card has some catching up to do compared to the strix but it is 40 bucks less at 809 vs 849.  Hopefully we can get a true xoc bios 

how in the heck did you get all those cards?

lemuth80
Well dunno I upgraded the bios but I can't still go above 130 mhz on core crashes at 135 in port royal at the end.

Think I don't have. A good silicone

So no improvement for me :(

An increased power limit won't make a previously unstable frequency suddenly stable.  Never will.  Never, ever.  That is a silicon quality thing, and also depends on voltage and temperature and signal integrity and all sorts of other things which power limit can't fix.
An increased power limit affects how much the GPU will boost and how soon it will start tapering off to lower boosts.  That's it.
I think that you will see that at the SAME over clock which was previously stable, your benchmark scores will be higher.  Not because the maximum stable frequency is higher.  Instead, because the average frequency is higher.

Dabadger84

riku98523

You might need to do some overclocking. The GPU is going to have voltage limits on it's boosting I think. So even if your voltage goes up a bit the gpu is going to stop boosting. Also you will always have a bottleneck somewhere vrel is pretty common.

Start overclocking it by like 25 per benchmark on the gpu and maybe 200 on the memory and just keep going up until you lose stability.

Dabbled with it a bit, got this, and notice the PerfCap Reason is none:
 

 
Only seeing ~431W draw, got a score increase, and the OC was using OC scan (then I rounded it up to 100 cuz yolo).
 
Very interesting indeed.  Seems to be working though.
 
Edit: My mouse is over Board Power Draw so you can see one of the peaks, annoying that the mouse doesn't show up in the screenshot.

Great, but you're not posting any usable data.  Set the GPU-Z readings to show max value, use the X1 datalogging plots and show the 3dmark plots.
 
Just crank up the fans to max, +150 on the core and +500 on the memory and see if it crashes.

nycx360

bkhan530

lantern48

chase10784
Wondering how it compares with the strix now.

I just tested and was able to hold a steady 2100Mhz OC in Wolfenstein: Youngblood and didn't go above 63 degrees. So pretty much just as good if not better.


Now it's complete and I can forget about the Strix and enjoy what I have without any remorse.
This is an amazing card.

Good to hear, this was the main reason I was holding out for a Strix--well that and I think the Strix is built a little better overall. But I've been burned by terrible ASUS customer service in the past so I'll likely grab an FTW3 if I find one unless I get lucky with a Strix somehow. 

bloodshot45
GPU-Z now reports 450W Power Limit!! RIP Asus Strix OC...
 

 
Thanks Jacob! You continue to prove why EVGA has the best customer service in the market.

I have 2 strix ocs and only 1 ftw3 atm. I was going to flash the strix bios today, but this bios saves me the hassle, so its much appreciated. Now that they are both 450 watt. 3090 bios would be nice since the strix is 480 on that. However, I am still power limited. I would say the ftw3 cooler does a better job at 100% fan than the strix cooler does, even though by looks and build the strix oc looks more beefy and effective. I think the ftw3 card has some catching up to do compared to the strix but it is 40 bucks less at 809 vs 849.  Hopefully we can get a true xoc bios 

glad to hear that as many people said strix has much better cooling system than FTW.
I dont have strix to test and compare. 

cant wait to test on my rig after work

kevinc313
Great, but you're not posting any usable data.  Set the GPU-Z readings to show max value, use the X1 datalogging plots and show the 3dmark plots.
 
Just crank up the fans to max, +150 on the core and +500 on the memory and see if it crashes.

Got the things set to readout the Max like you suggested:
 

 
I accidentally had TDP set at minimum, but the rest of the important stuff is there.