LinS123
Am I disappointed? Slightly.
 
Does it matter to me in end? Not really. Sure it cost more and is worst value compared to the Strix, but I'll take the card I have now and just work a few more hours to make back the perceived loss value. I knew it was never going to be a good value proposition when I bought the 3090 no matter the brand.
 
A lot of people don't seem to realize the scale of Asus. They are gigantic compared to EVGA. Fully automated assembly lines, a huge notebook division, phone division, etc. They can afford the economies of scale to just put more stuff or better stuff on PCBs.
 
Do I wish I had a Strix now? Maybe, I've had a chance to buy a few. But since I already have my card and they all perform within single digit percentages of each other. I am not gonna cry over the performance headroom lost, LN2 was never in my thoughts when purchasing.

I'm not talking about overclocking, it's cards dying with no one at EVGA saying why or what is going on. Some people here have RMA'd several cards to get one that actually functions. Mine is hard locking when powering up or rebooting randomly. It's stable in games it's just causing an issue at boot up sometimes.
 

LVNeptune
I'm not talking about overclocking, it's cards dying with no one at EVGA saying why or what is going on. Some people here have RMA'd several cards to get one that actually functions. Mine is hard locking when powering up or rebooting randomly. It's stable in games it's just causing an issue at boot up sometimes.
 

I agree EVGA should address the issue. Remember when the 2080Ti launch and were dying? I had two 2080Tis die on me, both EVGA. The issue right now is the same as what happened two years ago. Something is wrong, they are probably trying to figure it and give a correct answer. If they come out with a random excuse people will latch onto it and just say it's EVGA cutting corners. Like they did with the SC2 thermal pad issue. Turns out it was a batch of bad capacitors but everyone latched onto the notion that it was because EVGA did not apply thermal pads to the back.
 
The 3080 is like what 2 months old? And dying cards have starting popping up within the last 2-3 weeks. You're gonna have to give them more time to figure it out. If they can't give us a sastifying answer/solution, we take our money elsewhere. Simple as that.

LinS123

LVNeptune
I'm not talking about overclocking, it's cards dying with no one at EVGA saying why or what is going on. Some people here have RMA'd several cards to get one that actually functions. Mine is hard locking when powering up or rebooting randomly. It's stable in games it's just causing an issue at boot up sometimes.
 

I agree EVGA should address the issue. Remember when the 2080Ti launch and were dying? I had two 2080Tis die on me, both EVGA. The issue right now is the same as what happened two years ago. Something is wrong, they are probably trying to figure it and give a correct answer. If they come out with a random excuse people will latch onto it and just say it's EVGA cutting corners. Like they did with the SC2 thermal pad issue. Turns out it was a batch of bad capacitors but everyone latched onto the notion that it was because EVGA did not apply thermal pads to the back.
 
The 3080 is like what 2 months old? And dying cards have starting popping up within the last 2-3 weeks. You're gonna have to give them more time to figure it out. If they can't give us a sastifying answer/solution, we take our money elsewhere. Simple as that.

Card started popping up because people started receiving them, finally. We are a minority of users who have received cards and a large portion of the users who have received cards are having issues. I don't want a "satisfying solution." I want them to acknowledge there's a problem and halt RMAs until they figure out what it is, THEN replace the cards. "Just RMA it" is not a solution, just like "Just power cycle it" isn't a solution. You are fixing the symptom, not the cause.

LVNeptune
 
Card started popping up because people started receiving them, finally. We are a minority of users who have received cards and a large portion of the users who have received cards are having issues. I don't want a "satisfying solution." I want them to acknowledge there's a problem and halt RMAs until they figure out what it is, THEN replace the cards. "Just RMA it" is not a solution, just like "Just power cycle it" isn't a solution. You are fixing the symptom, not the cause.

Until you can quote me actual RMA percentages, it's all anecdotal. This forum is a ridiculously tiny sample size. So saying a "large portion" of users are having issues is hyperbole. I personally know at least 4 other people in my life who managed to get FTW3 cards  and are without issue. Are they representative of anything? Probably not.
 
What you are suggesting they do would piss off more people. Cause if they did stop RMAs, you would have others complaining of slow turn around or EVGA not doing anything.
 
Calm down. I went through two dead cards before, both in a span of 4 months. I understand the feeling. No need to get aggressive. 

LinS123

LVNeptune
 
Card started popping up because people started receiving them, finally. We are a minority of users who have received cards and a large portion of the users who have received cards are having issues. I don't want a "satisfying solution." I want them to acknowledge there's a problem and halt RMAs until they figure out what it is, THEN replace the cards. "Just RMA it" is not a solution, just like "Just power cycle it" isn't a solution. You are fixing the symptom, not the cause.

Until you can quote me actual RMA percentages, it's all anecdotal. This forum is a ridiculously tiny sample size. So saying a "large portion" of users are having issues is hyperbole. I personally know at least 4 other people in my life who managed to get FTW3 cards  and are without issue. Are they representative of anything? Probably not.
 
What you are suggesting they do would piss off more people. Cause if they did stop RMAs, you would have others complaining of slow turn around or EVGA not doing anything.
 
Calm down. I went through two dead cards before, both in a span of 4 months. I understand the feeling. No need to get aggressive. 

Unbelievable that you have a nerve to argue that comment 

LinS123

LVNeptune
 
Card started popping up because people started receiving them, finally. We are a minority of users who have received cards and a large portion of the users who have received cards are having issues. I don't want a "satisfying solution." I want them to acknowledge there's a problem and halt RMAs until they figure out what it is, THEN replace the cards. "Just RMA it" is not a solution, just like "Just power cycle it" isn't a solution. You are fixing the symptom, not the cause.

Until you can quote me actual RMA percentages, it's all anecdotal. This forum is a ridiculously tiny sample size. So saying a "large portion" of users are having issues is hyperbole. I personally know at least 4 other people in my life who managed to get FTW3 cards  and are without issue. Are they representative of anything? Probably not.
 
What you are suggesting they do would piss off more people. Cause if they did stop RMAs, you would have others complaining of slow turn around or EVGA not doing anything.
 
Calm down. I went through two dead cards before, both in a span of 4 months. I understand the feeling. No need to get aggressive. 

I'm more annoyed that I got rid of my 3090 FE for this. It benches and clocks higher but has random POST issues. For a card that is $2,000...it's very disappointing. This card is more than some people's complete builds. I was able to acquire another 3090 FE today at this morning's Best Buy drop so I'm set either way. With the "beta" bios issues and cards not even attempting to hit 500W and throwing up Pwr Limit throttling in GPU-Z I think they just need to go back to the engineering department and say, "fix this."

AWK16
Unbelievable that you have a nerve to argue that comment 

What? So you are saying the issue in this forum is representative of every FTW3 sold?

No where did I absolve EVGA of anything. They must fix the issue and provide an explanation or risk losing whatever credibility they have.

I've read through your thread of issues, and it does look bad. But are you an engineer? Can you solve it right now? Why are you entitled to answers immediately but EVGA is not afforded the opportunity to actually investigate and provide a non marketing answer?

Like I said. If they don't give a satisfactory solution, take our money and leave. Unless of course you are willing to start a class action lawsuit?

Personally I have no complaints about the 3080 FTW3 (other than the red accent, but what can you do). I undervolted slightly and still have a few percent over the FE model in terms of performance. The card is dead quiet and caps at 68° during full load. Coming from a 1080ti I'm extremely pleased.

Sure it's a little disappointing to know that they didn't use the best components they could've, but it doesn't really change anything in a meaningful way. Being able to play with no noise, without losing performance, is worth the premium over the FE model for me.

LinS123

AWK16
Unbelievable that you have a nerve to argue that comment 

What? So you are saying the issue in this forum is representative of every FTW3 sold?

No where did I absolve EVGA of anything. They must fix the issue and provide an explanation or risk losing whatever credibility they have.

I've read through your thread of issues, and it does look bad. But are you an engineer? Can you solve it right now? Why are you entitled to answers immediately but EVGA is not afforded the opportunity to actually investigate and provide a non marketing answer?

Like I said. If they don't give a satisfactory solution, take our money and leave. Unless of course you are willing to start a class action lawsuit?

There are repetitive 3080/3090FTW cards dying. I had 3090 died on me after 14 min. my nephew had 3x 3090's RMAs died within days, look around you, everyday someone is reporting dead card and it’s been only what a month since launch.  
You don't need every single person to report to you my card is dead, there is an issue and if you can't see it, I can't help you with that.

riku98523

AWK16

LinS123

AWK16
Unbelievable that you have a nerve to argue that comment 

What? So you are saying the issue in this forum is representative of every FTW3 sold?

No where did I absolve EVGA of anything. They must fix the issue and provide an explanation or risk losing whatever credibility they have.

I've read through your thread of issues, and it does look bad. But are you an engineer? Can you solve it right now? Why are you entitled to answers immediately but EVGA is not afforded the opportunity to actually investigate and provide a non marketing answer?

Like I said. If they don't give a satisfactory solution, take our money and leave. Unless of course you are willing to start a class action lawsuit?

There are repetitive 3080/3090FTW cards dying. I had 3090 died on me after 14 min. my nephew had 3x 3090's RMAs died within days, look around you, everyday someone is reporting dead card and it’s been only what a month since launch.  
You don't need every single person to report to you my card is dead, there is an issue and if you can't see it, I can't help you with that.

I can go look up almost any motherboard or even gpu on newegg and find a bunch of reviews about broken cards. People coming to forums to complain is not evidence of a major problem. It's only evidence that some % of literally any product especially electronics will fail.

Could their be a problem? Absolutely, but you don't know if there is and if you can't see that the forums as your evidence is ridiculous I have nothing else to say.

I'm sure you got your card what..month ago! so let’s see how long will take before you come complaining that your card is dead and as I said days,weeks or month, but from the trend we see

I finally sat down and watched Buildzoid's review after reading this thread and having some discussion in the GN Patreon Discord...some thoughts...
 
Nothing BZ mentioned in his review leads me to the conclusion that the components he is "disappointed" in are responsible for card failures.  He flat out gave caveats with every one of his comments that his disappointment is related to LN2 extreme OC'ing and that the components are perfectly fine for normal OC'ing and regular everyday usage.  He wanted to see the digital voltage controller and different core caps to squeeze 10-40 more mHz of clock out of it for setting world records.  That has jack squat to do with card failures.  Keep in mind also that the past cards he was comparing to were Ti FTW3 cards.  This is not a Ti level card.  The one card he thinks is built better is the Strix which is $30 more expensive.  If you watch all of Buildzoid's breakdowns you know that he is NEVER happy about a product.  There is always disappointment with his reviews.  This breakdown is also of a 3080 so nothing about it should be translated to the 3090.
 
Regarding the piss fight above about numbers of failed cards, keep in mind you will head about product failures much more than those who have no issues.  Go to any automobile forum and try to make a decision based on what you read there.  You'd never purchase another vehicle again.  
 
Bottom line, yes there are some card failures happening and none of us know why.  BZ's review comments are irrelevant to this issue.  Hopefully EVGA gets whatever it is figured out and hopefully it is indeed a small fraction of the cards.

ReZpawN
Just a reminder that the pcb he looked at was a pre release pcb and we know a few things changed on it so all the things he complained about most likely have been fixed

Good point.

ReZpawN
Just a reminder that the pcb he looked at was a pre release pcb and we know a few things changed on it so all the things he complained about most likely have been fixed

literally about to say the same thing.  

straha20
 
I was actually pretty surprised that Gamers Nexus published that video, and kind of disappointed in them as well.  It was really sloppy and quite frankly, misleading.  At the very least, they should have had a disclaimer overlay stating that the video was a review of a picture of a card that is not in production, and does not necessarily apply to actual card in consumers hands.  I expected better from Steve and GN.

I do think Buildzoid's PCB breakdowns are entertaining but when GN hosts him people are going to overestimate his level of expertise.  He's just a youtuber who likes to read datasheets guys, not a digital designer.

ty_ger07

nofearek9
are we going to see a revision 2.0 board soon ? :)

It used to be FTW.  Then when a revision came out, it was FTW2.  And then another revision would be FTW3.
But with EVGA jumping the gun straight to FTW3, what's next?  FTW4?

no same card FTW with revised board ,since some reviewers got the early samples for review,hope final product is better/revised.