Thegm963
I don't know exactly the timeframes between nvidia and partners but I guess they ought to also have had time before the 27th to prepare and test custom boards as well as prepare stock and supplies for the launch no?

I don't know any specifics but I got the impression that AIBs got very little time with the reference design before the announcement. People at the time were talking Computex as potentially the earliest the public would even get to see a custom PCB design. Assume at least 2 weeks after that for them to get their first batches of cards manufactured and I am actually pretty impressed that were up for pre-order as soon as they were. I honestly expected we would only see alternate coolers from AIBs for the first month. So many custom layouts shows just how together their engineering teams have gotten.
Given how easy it is to get boards printed I can only imagine the shortages are due to limited supply of one of the new parts (the actual GPUs from TSMC's fab line or the G5X from Micron). I suspect TSMC just can't handle the demand yet.
 
Purely speculation (and I do feel for my brothers in other regions) but EVGA's headquarters is in CA, USA so I suspect all the initial shipments went there. After they had a handle on return rates and fixed any manufacturing hiccups (plastic under screws, etc) then they started portioning of the shipments to other regions.
 
Personally I think one of the biggest mistakes in this launch was that the buy limit should have been 1 on all the sites. SLI isn't even fully working yet you can limp along on 1 card for a month.
 
Also my earlier comment about feeling like I deserved something for the wait was not a monetary plea, I was trying to lead in to my comments about intangible rewards of getting a product "later" in its life-cycle.

Scarlet-Tech

Ra7guel

Scarlet-Tech
Vulgar language will not be tolerated.  [...]
Using asterisks to hide your vulgar language will cause your post to either be edited or removed.

Does anyone else chuckle when they read this disclaimer? Considering 80% of the traffic in this thread is dedicated to a video card with a questionable initialism in its product name.

 
Please explain what is questionable about EVGA, GeForce, GTX, 1080/1070, Stock, or Thread.  I am curious what you are seeing that no one else is seeing?  You may want to read the thread title again. 
 
Also, as the user above me stated.. FTW isn't questionable as it stands for For the Win.  For it to be questionable, you would need to rearrange the letters, which would cause your post to be removed.

Popular culture in the late 90s and early 2000s used FTW to mean something else. Obviously I am not going to spell it out.

Scarlet-TechWhen you claim, "But asus, gigabyte.... have shipping around the world.." yeah, they also have AMD at their side as well and are much larger companies with my lower customer service standards. Personally, ASUS returned broken motherboards to me multiple times, and I had to pay shipping Each and every time, and they refused to help. 

 
I bought a brand new Asus Z97 motherboard and a separate ThunderboltEX II card a couple years back (roughly).  They were advertised to work together on the website, in the product manual, etc.  When I got everything installed, there was a cable missing that connects the card to the motherboard.  Turns out the cable was missing from every single ThunderboltEX II card that they had sold to that point.  They had changed the socket on from the Z87 board and not accounted for that.
 
No problem right, just call up Asus support and they'll send me one.  Nope, they flat out refused and despite many attempts and escalations by myself and others we were told that it simply wasn't possible.  No problem, simply call up their accessory sales and buy one then, right?  Nope, despite many attempts by myself and others .. it was impossible to buy this part as they didn't offer it.  The cable existed, as the "Deluxe" version of the MB came with the card and proper cable packaged together.  We even had the part number to give to them on the phone..  They had simply screwed up the contents of the standalone card and they were unwilling to admit or fix it.  The ONLY way I was able to resolve this was to involve the owners of one of the websites that reviews ASUS products and attends their trade shows.  They made one phone call and I had the right cable in hand, direct from ASUS in about 3 days.  I won't even go into my failed experience trying to RMA an ASUS motherboard.  That ultimately wound up being recycled.
 
That's why I buy from EVGA.  They may be smaller, with smaller distribution, etc..  but they don't let stuff like that happen.

diftowHonestly, if the performance is comparable, then it's a no brainer for me, AMD.

 
Well, it's not.  Now what?  Going to crossfire so you can be sort of competitive in half your games?  I wish AMD was competitive just for the sake of healthy competition, but they aren't.  The day will hopefully come and it'll be good for the market.  That day isn't today though.

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diftow
Honestly, if the performance is comparable, then it's a no brainer for me, AMD. Nvidia is giving me plenty of time to make sure it's the right decision, taking their sweet time on purpose to sell their crap Founders Edition $100 markup (and I'm sure participating in that scalping too).

Also, I had ATI back in the day. Was no better or worse than my 7300 GT from Nvidia.

AMD isn't directly comparable to Nvidia, since AMD isn't doing anything innovative at all. The r9 480 is priced right where you can buy a 980 right now, and that is the only thing it competes against. Nvidia made a node and architecture change, and really changed. AMD just keeps sticking right where they were and changing the size of the node. They really need to make a big move and stop releasing interim stopgap.

AMD is the underdog though, that is to be expected. Nvidia has a monopoly on the market, and a partnership with Intel. Personally, I'm not a fan of monopolies, we need more competition.

Scarlet-Tech
AMD uses Intel cpu's to showcase their equipment all the time. AMD is an underdog to itself.

I think it has more to do with being powerful, than being truly innovative. Any company could do the same with the power & money. I'm not impressed.

waiting for so long but still didn't get the evga card, only msi card out there

diamond84041
Im in the same boat as you.  ordered 1080 ftw amazon may 31st and can get no answers. watching people get them on newegg with no preorder is pretty frustrating
 

Still no update and its EOD. Really done with EVGA.

jfolds
for a 2nd day...   nowinstock.com send me an allert, im sitting here beep beep beep   i click the auto add button for newegg and nope.. not in stock...   was sitting here when the alarm when off, nothing..
 
now i've got the card on an auto 5sec refresh,  still no cards..

Yeah, they keep sending out false alarms. Ruined my sleep for nothing.

Henrynguyen20
lol should we trust the auto notify :)

Well we have no choice. I'm not going to sit there and refresh a page all day. If I wanted the card THAT bad, I'd just buy from a scalper, get the founders edition, or do the 90 day step up from another card. Sitting there watching a page all day is reminiscent of that South Park episode where Cartman plays WoW and craps in a bedpan.

jcH09

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diftow
If I can't pick up a Nvidia card by the weekend, then AMD gets my business. Nvidia screwed up big time.

 
Lot's of people say that.  You should take the time to see how many people regret that exact decision.. It's actually impressive how many threads you can find from people that came back within a few weeks.

That's probably why. They think that saying "If I can't get the card I want when I want it, I'm not doing business with EVGA" will be perceived as a serious problem by EVGA when countless others will be happy to take their place. Then when they realize it doesn't work, they quietly come back and act as if they never said any of that. It's quite amusing, really.

I have personally used AMD CPUs, and ATI GPUs. Only reason I use Nvidia is because I discovered EVGA when I upgraded to a 9800 GX2 and really liked EVGA's customer service.
I have had bad experiences with other companies who took months to send me my hardware back, and sent it back broken, and then called me a liar.
If EVGA did AMD GPUs too, I absolutely would buy it, especially now. I'm a fan of EVGA, but I am not a fan of Nvidia. I chose my words wisely and left no room for misinterpretation.
I can't say I speak for everybody that buys AMD, but don't make generalisations.

Henrynguyen20
lol you're right diftow, I feel confidence with evga, i never use AMD, only for all of my cousins build
i don't know why evga is short on demand this time. On the other hand,  msi 1080 and 1070 gaming x is in stock of Frys and microcenter already

It's Nvidia's fault, and it isn't the only issue I've had with Nvidia.

1. Charging people $50 for a license for "3D Play" on a $500 GPU. Just extortion right there.

2. Terrible drivers. Their drivers for Windows 10 were broken long after the official release had begun. And prior to Windows 10, I've experienced issues with games that were driver related as well, countless times. It wasn't the games either, it was Nvidia drivers. My old BFG 7300 GT was a great card, until I updated it to newer Nvidia drivers. Nvidia turned that card from working, to defective.
I'm old enough to remember a time where it was hard to come by driver updates. You had to install via physical media. Somehow companies managed to deliver products that worked without being able to provide bug fixes anytime anywhere. Now we have fast internet and automatic drive installation, and it's worse?

Nvidia is a powerful giant in bed with an even bigger giant (Intel). They are not some amazing company, they just get all the profit to fund the majority of GPUs on the market.
Would be nice to see companies like EVGA sell other GPUs. I'd like to see more than just AMD and Nvidia as well.

diftow
 
Nvidia is a powerful giant in bed with an even bigger giant (Intel). 

Any evidence to back this up? I actually think Nvidia and Intel are going to be in ever increasing competition with each other.
 

lol jfolds, look like don't say something that you don't have right :)

Haha just giving an example : )