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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 09:53:09 (permalink)
Regarding to overclockers the black has even lower power limit , not sure if now it was increased , where can i find latest bios files

I can flash the xc3 ultra bios ofcourse and i believe it is the exact same card just with backplate , question is does that void warranty ?

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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 10:01:20 (permalink)
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Regarding to overclockers the black has even lower power limit , not sure if now it was increased , where can i find latest bios files

I can flash the xc3 ultra bios ofcourse and i believe it is the exact same card just with backplate , question is does that void warranty ?


AFAIK, the ultra has a higher binned chip as well as the backplate.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 10:17:45 (permalink)
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Regarding to overclockers the black has even lower power limit , not sure if now it was increased , where can i find latest bios files

I can flash the xc3 ultra bios ofcourse and i believe it is the exact same card just with backplate , question is does that void warranty ?


AFAIK, the ultra has a higher binned chip as well as the backplate.

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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 10:21:41 (permalink)
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Regarding to overclockers the black has even lower power limit , not sure if now it was increased , where can i find latest bios files

I can flash the xc3 ultra bios ofcourse and i believe it is the exact same card just with backplate , question is does that void warranty ?


AFAIK, the ultra has a higher binned chip as well as the backplate.



So it's just clocked higher via the bios. I think you'd be fine as long as it's another xc3 bios as far as I know but it's def worth asking someone from EVGA first. Not sure how much extra performance it's gonna get you.

I hit 463w on a 450w bios and if I wasn't chasing the dragon with port royal and time spy I'd be fine with that as I've seen negligible difference in game.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 10:24:33 (permalink)
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I reverted to an early August driver and got my performance back.

That was about the time I noticed the performance dip. Do you remember which driver version you reverted to? I’m tempted to do the same.


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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 10:31:33 (permalink)
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Shraf2k
I reverted to an early August driver and got my performance back.

That was about the time I noticed the performance dip. Do you remember which driver version you reverted to? I’m tempted to do the same.


471.68

https://www.techpowerup.c...orce-graphics-drivers/

I may experiment with even older ones later if I get a chance, but this is what got me back to 14600s from 14000 in PR. I thought I was losing my mind and I was reading setting for 2 weeks till this last driver came out and I had an "AHA!" moment.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/24 11:24:58 (permalink)
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I reverted to an early August driver and got my performance back.

That was about the time I noticed the performance dip. Do you remember which driver version you reverted to? I’m tempted to do the same.


471.68

https://www.techpowerup.c...orce-graphics-drivers/

I may experiment with even older ones later if I get a chance, but this is what got me back to 14600s from 14000 in PR. I thought I was losing my mind and I was reading setting for 2 weeks till this last driver came out and I had an "AHA!" moment.

Thanks. I’ll experiment with that version this weekend. Still annoying that some updates increase performance while others decrease it. I’m no software engineer, but I wouldn’t put it past the all-encompassing drivers Nvidia releases as being the culprit for decreases in particular. Really wish they’d chop them down to card series so I don’t have to download a 700+ MB file every time. After all, Comcast has been threatening to instill a download cap before having to pay extra. The last thing I need is to go over a potential cap due to drivers. Then again, games like War Zone can’t be patched without seemingly downloading the entire game again, but that’s a whole different topic.


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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/26 01:03:52 (permalink)
The "The display adapter firmware is up to date." issue for LHR 3080 users, is there any update, OP?  Thanks
 
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When trying to convert to a hybrid by flashing a BIOS, I mean.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/26 03:53:39 (permalink)
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The "The display adapter firmware is up to date." issue for LHR 3080 users, is there any update, OP?  Thanks
whats the issue ?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/26 08:29:06 (permalink)
Has anyone had the issue, where you've received a 3090OC from RMA, which still doesn't work with the 500W BIOS?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/26 08:47:57 (permalink)
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Has anyone had the issue, where you've received a 3090OC from RMA, which still doesn't work with the 500W BIOS?


was there not revision cards which had this fixed ? like revision 1.0
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/28 10:56:33 (permalink)
I have a 3070ti ftw3. When I switch the bios switch to OC isn’t the power limit on the card supposed to change in PX1?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/28 11:41:39 (permalink)
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I have a 3070ti ftw3. When I switch the bios switch to OC isn’t the power limit on the card supposed to change in PX1?


Probably just more aggressive fan profile , check bioses with gpu z on both switches might be the same
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/28 20:53:23 (permalink)
Sooooo. I did this and it completed. But it’s not updating the device name. Still says RTX 3080 FTW Ultra
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/28 21:11:56 (permalink)
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Sooooo. I did this and it completed. But it’s not updating the device name. Still says RTX 3080 FTW Ultra

Disabled Fast Boot & CSM before updating?


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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/28 22:22:08 (permalink)
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Sooooo. I did this and it completed. But it’s not updating the device name. Still says RTX 3080 FTW Ultra

Disabled Fast Boot & CSM before updating?



Yeah. Disabled fast boot and CSM. Enabled resizable bar.

I was given this thread from Jacob.

I restarted my Pc like 5 times.
I have the FTW ULTRA With the Hybrid kit on it.
I flashed the 3080 FTW ULTRA XOC REBAR Bios. I have it switched to OC on my RTX 3080.

Before it wasn’t even completing.
Tonight it did and the bios in the X1 rebar section changed from needing an update to currently up to date.

The only thing not showing is EVGA RTX 3080 FTW ULTRA HYBRID.

Any ideas?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 01:32:55 (permalink)
Hello @EVGATech_LeeM
(I'm not an English native speaker. Hope you don't mind)

And i just join here , so i cant PM , Sor

 
I have RTX 3080 XC3 BLACK (10G-P5-3881-KL )
I open EVGA  Precision X1  and it update my card vbios yesterday.
New Bios Version is [94.02.71.40.B7].
 
I am surprised for this update .
I dont know it will update Vbios . 
I think it only update Precision X1 Version.
 
So I dont save my old Bios Version file also not remember old vbios number .
it is not my day.
 
 
And this new Bios Version is not good work for my card.
 
When i use New vbios  to play game .
Temperature is highter than old. [OLD:60~63  NEW:63~70]
Make some voise louder than old .
fps is higher than old , but just only 3~5 fps 

[if you want , i can give you 3DMark-Firestrike(result) , then you can compare old and new vbios )
 
So i want to take old VBios to downgrade this .
But in this article , RTX3080 XC3 black origin is [94.02.71.40.B7].
 
maybe i need some old Bios Version or Previous Bios Version to try it again.
i want my old vbios come back .
 
because it is silence , lower Temperature for me .
 
I dnot want to RMA card , because it is NEW card in my hand , only 5 day!
And RMA it is very troublesome for me.
So i need some help .
very thanks for support.

MY OS : Windows 7
After i update my Vbios , I DDU it again , but New vBios still not good work for me 

I also find some Old XC3 black Vbios in TechPowerUp , but in there Card all KR not LHR .
i cant use that
 
ADD--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[FPS --> The upper and lower limits become larger]
like : apex
old vbios average : 130~180
new vbios average : 100~200
upper fps really improve , but lower fps really decline too .
so fps like high and down , not Stablize for my card .
another game either , like PUBG and CSgo


Important GTA (idk why)
In GTA fps is very lower than my old GTX1070
Regardless of old vbios or new vbios , their fps all lower my old GTX1070
Regardless of 1080p , higher setting or lower setting
post edited by WAYNEKPK2 - 2021/09/29 08:53:15
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 03:37:23 (permalink)
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Hello
 
I have RTX 3080 XC3 BLACK (10G-P5-3881-KL )
I open EVGA  Precision X1  and it update my card vbios yesterday.
New Bios Version is [94.02.71.40.B7].
 
I am surprised for this update .
I dont know it will update Vbios . 
I think it only update Precision X1 Version.
 
So I dont save my old Bios Version file also not remember old vbios number .
it is not my day.
 
 
And this new Bios Version is not good work for my card.
 
When i use New vbios  to play game .
Temperature is highter than old. [OLD:60~63  NEW:63~70]
Make some voise louder than old .
fps is higher than old , but just only 3~5 fps 
 
So i want to take old VBios to downgrade this .
But in this article , RTX3080 XC3 black origin is [94.02.71.40.B7].
 
maybe i need some old Bios Version or Previous Bios Version to try it again.
i want my old vbios come back .
 
because it is silence , lower Temperature for me .
 
I dnot want to RMA card , because it is NEW card in my hand , only 5 day!
And RMA it is very troublesome for me.
So i need some help .
very thanks for support.

MY OS : Windows 7
After i update my Vbios , I DDU it again , but New vBios still not good work for me 

I also find some Old XC3 black Vbios in TechPowerUp , but in there Card all KR not LHR .
i cant use that 


Probably the card draws more power now hence the more fps / heat , i would be happy if this is the case

I will be picking up the same card monday so if you wait i can do backup i am planning to update it to newest after i did the testing on the old bios
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 04:22:44 (permalink)
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Probably the card draws more power now hence the more fps / heat , i would be happy if this is the case

I will be picking up the same card monday so if you wait i can do backup i am planning to update it to newest after i did the testing on the old bios


very thanks for your help !

I'm not an English native speaker. Hope you don't mind
 
But bad news who have 3080 XC3 BLACK ,  their origin vbios is [94.02.71.40.B7]

i think maybe different batches.

maybe my batches is old .

and more fps/heat is great . i agree . but ... [FPS --> The upper and lower limits become larger]

like : apex 

old vbios average : 130~180
new vbios average : 100~200

upper fps really improve , but lower fps really decline too .

so fps like high and down , not Stablize for my card .

another game either , like PUBG and CSgo

Important GTA (idk why)

In GTA fps is very lower than my old GTX1070 

Regardless of old vbios or new vbios , their fps all lower my old GTX1070

Regardless of 1080p , higher setting or lower setting 
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 04:32:21 (permalink)
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mite_jan
Probably the card draws more power now hence the more fps / heat , i would be happy if this is the case

I will be picking up the same card monday so if you wait i can do backup i am planning to update it to newest after i did the testing on the old bios


very thanks for your help !

I'm not an English native speaker. Hope you don't mind
 
But bad news who have 3080 XC3 BLACK ,  their origin vbios is [94.02.71.40.B7]

i think maybe different batches.

maybe my batches is old .

and more fps/heat is great . i agree . but ... [FPS --> The upper and lower limits become larger]

like : apex 

old vbios average : 130~180
new vbios average : 100~200

upper fps really improve , but lower fps really decline too .

so fps like high and down , not Stablize for my card .

another game either , like PUBG and CSgo

Important GTA (idk why)

In GTA fps is very lower than my old GTX1070 

Regardless of old vbios or new vbios , their fps all lower my old GTX1070

Regardless of 1080p , higher setting or lower setting 


In nvidia control panel make sure you set power to high performance
Monitor the core clock maybe the card is not boosting so that's why you see the lower framerate
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 13:41:50 (permalink)
wow.. so helpful for me, thank you bro
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 16:04:21 (permalink)
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Has anyone had the issue, where you've received a 3090OC from RMA, which still doesn't work with the 500W BIOS?


Which BIOS are you flashing?  There's no reason to be flashing the older XOC BIOS on the newer 3090 revision.  You will lower performance that way.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 16:05:39 (permalink)
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The "The display adapter firmware is up to date." issue for LHR 3080 users, is there any update, OP?  Thanks
 
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When trying to convert to a hybrid by flashing a BIOS, I mean.


Sorry, I'm pushing our team again on this issue.  Hope to hear back in a day or two.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 16:18:45 (permalink)
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Hello @EVGATech_LeeM
(I'm not an English native speaker. Hope you don't mind)

And i just join here , so i cant PM , Sor

 
I have RTX 3080 XC3 BLACK (10G-P5-3881-KL )
I open EVGA  Precision X1  and it update my card vbios yesterday.
New Bios Version is [94.02.71.40.B7].
 
I am surprised for this update .
I dont know it will update Vbios . 
I think it only update Precision X1 Version.
 
So I dont save my old Bios Version file also not remember old vbios number .
it is not my day.
 
 
And this new Bios Version is not good work for my card.
 
When i use New vbios  to play game .
Temperature is highter than old. [OLD:60~63  NEW:63~70]
Make some voise louder than old .
fps is higher than old , but just only 3~5 fps 

[if you want , i can give you 3DMark-Firestrike(result) , then you can compare old and new vbios )
 
So i want to take old VBios to downgrade this .
But in this article , RTX3080 XC3 black origin is [94.02.71.40.B7].
 
maybe i need some old Bios Version or Previous Bios Version to try it again.
i want my old vbios come back .
 
because it is silence , lower Temperature for me .
 
I dnot want to RMA card , because it is NEW card in my hand , only 5 day!
And RMA it is very troublesome for me.
So i need some help .
very thanks for support.

MY OS : Windows 7
After i update my Vbios , I DDU it again , but New vBios still not good work for me 

I also find some Old XC3 black Vbios in TechPowerUp , but in there Card all KR not LHR .
i cant use that
 
ADD--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[FPS --> The upper and lower limits become larger]
like : apex
old vbios average : 130~180
new vbios average : 100~200
upper fps really improve , but lower fps really decline too .
so fps like high and down , not Stablize for my card .
another game either , like PUBG and CSgo


Important GTA (idk why)
In GTA fps is very lower than my old GTX1070
Regardless of old vbios or new vbios , their fps all lower my old GTX1070
Regardless of 1080p , higher setting or lower setting


I think you may have mistaken a VBIOS update for the MCU Firmware update.
 
For 3080 XC3 LHR cards, such as the XC3 BLACK, there has only been one BIOS for the card (94.02.71.40.B7), which matches the BIOS in this thread.  This means that the graphics card BIOS has not changed, nor would any internal parameters controlled by the BIOS changed.
 
Now, it's possible that some fan values or profiles may have changed with the update to your MCU.  Using PX1 or Afterburner, you might need to work on the fan control of the card to more finely tune it so that the temperature does not affect the GPU Boost on the card.  However, I would tend to think the performance difference could be chalked up to different drivers or game updates, or other software updates like Windows Updates. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/29 22:37:57 (permalink)
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msmouse
The "The display adapter firmware is up to date." issue for LHR 3080 users, is there any update, OP?  Thanks
 
-----
 
When trying to convert to a hybrid by flashing a BIOS, I mean.


Sorry, I'm pushing our team again on this issue.  Hope to hear back in a day or two.


Thank you EVGATech_LeeM, glad to know this is still on your radar. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/30 01:37:02 (permalink)
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I think you may have mistaken a VBIOS update for the MCU Firmware update.
 
For 3080 XC3 LHR cards, such as the XC3 BLACK, there has only been one BIOS for the card (94.02.71.40.B7), which matches the BIOS in this thread.  This means that the graphics card BIOS has not changed, nor would any internal parameters controlled by the BIOS changed.
 
Now, it's possible that some fan values or profiles may have changed with the update to your MCU.  Using PX1 or Afterburner, you might need to work on the fan control of the card to more finely tune it so that the temperature does not affect the GPU Boost on the card.  However, I would tend to think the performance difference could be chalked up to different drivers or game updates, or other software updates like Windows Updates. 


I remember i download Percision X1 firsttime . I open it .
Its running update [something uncertain]  then my card was 100% running .
when it ran over , Percision X1 said :[it cant run in this system , then it close]
because my OS:W7 , Percision X1 Cant use in here.

so i cant understand , something uncertain changed , 
I think maybe vbios , so i come here need help and find any old vBIOS.

if it is not vbios problem , it's MCU Firmware update ?
then how can i do to come back old  MCU Firmware ?

i dont want to use new MCU
And it make my FPS not Stablize in game or in my work

i use the same card drivers and Windows not Updates any .

when MCU Firmware update ,my card run 100% , i am shake .
And Percision X1 cant work in my PC . so i remove it .
i dont change anything . but i discover my card use different than first time.

after MCU Firmware update over , i play game and test 3D mark .
FPS not Stablize , [FPS --> The upper and lower limits become larger]
and average temperature is rise .

so i want to come back , use old setting .
if it is not vbios update , it is MCU Firmware update .

what can i do in here ?

my problem like this : maybe MCU Firmware update problem ?
[htt
ps://forums.evga.com/Latest-firmware-update-via-Precision-X1-causing-issues-with-my-3080-FTW3-Ultra-m3455409.aspx]
 
Thank you EVGATech_LeeM
post edited by WAYNEKPK2 - 2021/09/30 04:50:44
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/30 11:24:24 (permalink)
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The "The display adapter firmware is up to date." issue for LHR 3080 users, is there any update, OP?  Thanks
 
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When trying to convert to a hybrid by flashing a BIOS, I mean.


Sorry, I'm pushing our team again on this issue.  Hope to hear back in a day or two.


Thank you EVGATech_LeeM, glad to know this is still on your radar. 


For those of you with the 3080 FTW3-type LHR cards, give this BIOS a try:  https://www.evga.com/EVGA/GeneralDownloading.aspx?file=4898.zip
 
Instructions:
•      Download the 4898.zip file.
•      Extract the files to a location on disk.
•      Make sure no programs are running in the background, and double click 4898_Normal_ovu.exe
•      Press "Y" to begin the update.
•      DO NOT TURN OFF POWER OR RESET DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS!
•      After update, restart PC.
•      For OC bios(4898_OC_ovu.exe), you must toggle bios switch to the position of OC and do the same process as above.
 
If successful, I'll add it to the main post.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/30 13:04:50 (permalink)
EVGATech_LeeM, Thanks so much.
The New File did the trick for me.
Appreciate You and EVGA as a company, customer service goes a long way nowadays
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/30 13:29:52 (permalink)
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The "The display adapter firmware is up to date." issue for LHR 3080 users, is there any update, OP?  Thanks
 
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When trying to convert to a hybrid by flashing a BIOS, I mean.


Sorry, I'm pushing our team again on this issue.  Hope to hear back in a day or two.


Thank you EVGATech_LeeM, glad to know this is still on your radar. 


For those of you with the 3080 FTW3-type LHR cards, give this BIOS a try:  https://www.evga.com/EVGA/GeneralDownloading.aspx?file=4898.zip
 
Instructions:
•      Download the 4898.zip file.
•      Extract the files to a location on disk.
•      Make sure no programs are running in the background, and double click 4898_Normal_ovu.exe
•      Press "Y" to begin the update.
•      DO NOT TURN OFF POWER OR RESET DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS!
•      After update, restart PC.
•      For OC bios(4898_OC_ovu.exe), you must toggle bios switch to the position of OC and do the same process as above.
 
If successful, I'll add it to the main post.


Now just release the 500w 3080ti kraken and we'll be golden ;-)
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread 2021/09/30 13:30:54 (permalink)
Is there an oc bios for a non ftw card on air ???
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