k|ngp|n
 
"And since EVGA still doesn't know how to evade nvidia greenlight that means that............... ;)
1. limited like the classified just binned chips..................WRONG!
2. Doesn't come out and gets cancelled(unlikely)...............100% UNLIKELY
3. EVGA decides to allow hardmodding of the card to go past nvidia's greenlight..................Every card ive tested did close to 1800mhz without a single mod, most over 1800. We just hit 1950+ in the lab and still no mods! :) "
 
 Just wait and see,  don't speculate. You think I would put my name on a locked down card?

cobz01

ocCuS
I haven´t find an answer yet so I will ask it here and I hope Jacob, K|ng|n or anybody can answer it and help me decide:
 
I´m planning to get a 780 Ti Classified or an 780 Ti K|ng|n (and yes money is a factor for me, knowing the K|ngp|n will cost (hopefully only) around 100€ more after what I was reading in this threat and a Classified i now at 685€ here in Germany).
 
I know with the standard 780 Ti Classified there is still a little lottery to get a good and a very good oc card (after the bios fix which you can get now) but what are the real world difference between those two cards on air/water/ln2 (especially on water for my next build)? Will it be only a couple of frames or points in scores or will you notice a huge difference here?
(sorry for my english)

On water both cards will be basically the same... The kingpin will be able to clock higher then the classified when using ln2. If you are going to just be gaming and doing some benching, then the classified is the card to get. If you are going to be doing extreme benching / ln2 cooling, then the kingpin is the card to get.  Also if you do not plan on water cooling your rig, then the kingpin is out of the question. Both cards will be very close..

Myst3ri0n

cobz01

ocCuS
I haven´t find an answer yet so I will ask it here and I hope Jacob, K|ng|n or anybody can answer it and help me decide:
 
I´m planning to get a 780 Ti Classified or an 780 Ti K|ng|n (and yes money is a factor for me, knowing the K|ngp|n will cost (hopefully only) around 100€ more after what I was reading in this threat and a Classified i now at 685€ here in Germany).
 
I know with the standard 780 Ti Classified there is still a little lottery to get a good and a very good oc card (after the bios fix which you can get now) but what are the real world difference between those two cards on air/water/ln2 (especially on water for my next build)? Will it be only a couple of frames or points in scores or will you notice a huge difference here?
(sorry for my english)

On water both cards will be basically the same... The kingpin will be able to clock higher then the classified when using ln2. If you are going to just be gaming and doing some benching, then the classified is the card to get. If you are going to be doing extreme benching / ln2 cooling, then the kingpin is the card to get.  Also if you do not plan on water cooling your rig, then the kingpin is out of the question. Both cards will be very close..

I think the kingpin is going to be dirty, and the best your money can buy end of story

cobz01

Myst3ri0n

cobz01

ocCuS
I haven´t find an answer yet so I will ask it here and I hope Jacob, K|ng|n or anybody can answer it and help me decide:
 
I´m planning to get a 780 Ti Classified or an 780 Ti K|ng|n (and yes money is a factor for me, knowing the K|ngp|n will cost (hopefully only) around 100€ more after what I was reading in this threat and a Classified i now at 685€ here in Germany).
 
I know with the standard 780 Ti Classified there is still a little lottery to get a good and a very good oc card (after the bios fix which you can get now) but what are the real world difference between those two cards on air/water/ln2 (especially on water for my next build)? Will it be only a couple of frames or points in scores or will you notice a huge difference here?
(sorry for my english)

On water both cards will be basically the same... The kingpin will be able to clock higher then the classified when using ln2. If you are going to just be gaming and doing some benching, then the classified is the card to get. If you are going to be doing extreme benching / ln2 cooling, then the kingpin is the card to get.  Also if you do not plan on water cooling your rig, then the kingpin is out of the question. Both cards will be very close..

I think the kingpin is going to be dirty, and the best your money can buy end of story

Yes, that is a true statement.. It will be the best you can buy.. But if you already own classifieds and running them under water you are not going to see a significant advantage buying the kingpin... Where the kingpin will excel is with extreme cooling.. If you do not own classys then the kingpin is a no brainer.. But unless you are going to be using extreme cooling you are not going to better your performance over the classys... So you can believe all you want, but its the facts..

cobz01

Vlada011
How can be same...
I think same I saw on overclocknet they talk about some voltage switches on PCB and together they give 50mV more 25+25...
I complain from Day 1 where is mine 1275-1300V, and maybe is that something similar for all of us and only NVIDIA as before with option to disable card do decide what to do when became warm and to finally OC normal and on Air... I don't know how that work, we will see that...
But if card can 1200MHz stable only in games on stock voltage, 50mv + 50mV can give you chance to play games on 1300MHz example... If that is not win of that card I don't know... That is for me same success as 1800MHz on LN2 on net... Find me one GTX780Ti stable in all games on 1300MHz, can't because 25 and 37mV only can't help you much... But 1212V + 0050V and we talk about something interesting.
About one nice NVIDIA graphic card. 
IF that work on that way... Disable temp target and we have one nice card to work on safe 80C on 1275-1325MHz in games on 80-90% fan without some incredible noise as turbine on excellent speed. Everything is only possibility but with 1200V you will not far from clock stable on stock voltage. Sometimes nothing. 20-30MHz...
Here pictures... This is completely different story if you can increase 50mV more for 24/7
GK110 have everything, cooling, PCB, incredible hardware, huge power target but he is hungry of voltage, he cry for voltage for 24/7 not for benchmarks only...
 
 
 
If two switches on PCB work on that way and can give you 50mV more for 24/7 than R9-290X Lightening no single advantage. 
That's it than normal overclocking.

My SLI classys run 1280mhz game stable @1.212.. I am in the process of building my new case and will be slapping my EK blocks on my cards which will allow me to boost performance quite a bit.... I was leaning towards buying SLI kingpins but now I am changing my mind I think.. LOL.... Because on water you are not going to see a significant difference between the 2 cards... Alls we can do is wait and see though... But it has been said many times that they will be very similiar under water... But the kingpin will excel with extreme cooling and the fact that it can take more power... But on water, not a significant difference..

whitedragon_
Jacob... any news on this as far as release time? price?

GunslingerOCS
Gaypin
 
 
Do you think his name is a coincidence, given he just joined, only has 2 posts, both of which are in this particular thread?
 
I won't even get started on his avatar

Kythea
Yay!, now let it not be over $800.