I got a Fractal Define 7 XL for this build personally. The thing's huge. Plenty of room for two 360 AIOs.

yaggaz

Dabadger84
 I'll have to figure out where the heck to put it in my case since I'm planning on getting a 360mm AIO for my CPU soon. lol

I'm doing this, lol
 

 

LOL I have enough case room I can make it work, just have to figure out the logistics... and see how long the tubing is on my new EK AIO that's incoming... supposedly it's quite long, which is nice, I can finally get the tubing for the CPU block out of the way of the 200mm monster VRM/RAM cooling fan I have lol
 
Speaking of which, I need to update or do a new ModRigs page for this iteration of the build... I'll wait til the EK AIO gets here though.

ybing
How about the 3090 hybird or Kingpin?  Any ETA?

This was announced in the Hybrid thread. All things watercooled coming mid-late November, Kingpin will be around the same time but the last product as it is the most niche and powerful of products

I'm really wondering why EVGA has yet to address the lack of pump control on these hybrid cards. I got a 2080TI FTW3 Hybrid recently, and the pump noise while not obnoxiously loud is comparable with the chilling unit in a small refrigerator, it's driving me out of my mind. I'm going to try the mod that allows me to connect the pump directly to my motherboard, and then set it to DC control etc, but for such a supposedly high-end product, adding a simple voltage controller to the PCB shouldn't be such a problem...

Trying to figure out the best placement if I were to get the addon kit.  I have a Coolermaster Case Master 5 with a 240mm rad on the top for my CPU.  That leaves only the front for mounting it, do I use it as an intake and give warmer air to my cpu or use it as exhaust with the only intakes being the 3rd fan on the bottom and the rear fan as intake with a noctua?

wedgoku

FarmerKlink
I'm really wondering why EVGA has yet to address the lack of pump control on these hybrid cards. I got a 2080TI FTW3 Hybrid recently, and the pump noise while not obnoxiously loud is comparable with the chilling unit in a small refrigerator, it's driving me out of my mind. I'm going to try the mod that allows me to connect the pump directly to my motherboard, and then set it to DC control etc, but for such a supposedly high-end product, adding a simple voltage controller to the PCB shouldn't be such a problem...

I will just leave this here in case someone has missed my post.

The new RTX 30 series Hybrid models will still have the same pump issues as the 20 series.

So better to go with 3090 water block version?...and just bite the bullet on a full water cooled build.

I wish EVGA allowed pump control on hybrid cards like they do on their CLC CPU coolers. When you turn it down the pump noise fades away on those. It’s unfortunate that they aren’t implementing it this gen.

It’s not hard to plug the hybrid pump into the mobo though, especially if you are installing a hybrid kit and the card is already taken apart. You just unplug the pump from the card, use an adapter, and plug it into your motherboard.

We know these pumps can be safely turned down since most other vendors AIO Gen6 pumps have pump control via software.

GTXJackBauer

eg1122

EVGA_JacobF
See below for some updates on 30 Series HYBRID! Will continue to update as more info is available:

• HYBRID = 240mm Radiator 
• Available in XC3, FTW3 versions
• Latest update on availability = Mid/Late Nov
• Standalone kit will be available

Is this picture how both XC3 and FTW3 will look like? Do they look different, and if so can you share pictures/renders of both of them?

 
The picture indicates that's a FTW3 Hybrid since it's taller.  When you see the GPU that 'tall' from the I/O rear bracket, it means its on a custom PCB otherwise, a reference GPU is almost flushed with the rear I/O bracket.

For example, this is what a 2080 Ti XC Hybrid looks like.


 
This is what a 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID looks like.

skydread
Will they include the Ultra versions of XC3 and FTW3?

In the past, they had both XC and FTW3 Ultra models as Hybrids.

Will the 30-series hybrids actually have series-specific branding or will they literally all say "EVGA | GEFORCE RTX" on them?

degenerate

FarmerKlink
I'm really wondering why EVGA has yet to address the lack of pump control on these hybrid cards. I got a 2080TI FTW3 Hybrid recently, and the pump noise while not obnoxiously loud is comparable with the chilling unit in a small refrigerator, it's driving me out of my mind. I'm going to try the mod that allows me to connect the pump directly to my motherboard, and then set it to DC control etc, but for such a supposedly high-end product, adding a simple voltage controller to the PCB shouldn't be such a problem...

Use the magnet trick, I had great success with this method before I waterblocked my 2080Ti KPE.

Are you referring to triforcing your hard drive?  Because according to 4chan, that is a great trick.

yaggaz

Dabadger84
 I'll have to figure out where the heck to put it in my case since I'm planning on getting a 360mm AIO for my CPU soon. lol

I'm doing this, lol
 

 

I was thinking of doing this but I'm assuming installation will be a ****. You would have to take the AIO pump and put it through the bottom pci-e brackets and then install it on.

Dabadger84
I may just grow the guts to do a Hybrid kit install myself instead of reselling my 3080 FTW3 when the Hybrid comes out & buying one.  We'll see what the cost of the kit is, hopefully it's still reasonable I.E. less than $200... 240mm Radiator, that will be sick... I'll have to figure out where the heck to put it in my case since I'm planning on getting a 360mm AIO for my CPU soon. lol

 
It's not too difficult.  Just follow the directions or wait for some tutorials on the tube that can help you step by step.  Once you're done, you'll realize how easy it was.  Just make sure you're grounded and you have a quality TIM (Paste) at hand.  I prefer MX-4 but everyone has their preferences.
 
As for the price range, that all depends.  It's usually in the $180 range but with everything that's gone on and costs going up, I wouldn't be surprised if it's in the $200 range but lesser is better so lets hope for that.
 
A 360mm Rad is a bit overkill for a CPU imo and would rather see that for a high end GPU since the GPUs are usually pushed to their limits more or less during gaming, dependent on hardware/game settings, etc.
 

yaggaz

Dabadger84
 I'll have to figure out where the heck to put it in my case since I'm planning on getting a 360mm AIO for my CPU soon. lol

I'm doing this, lol
 

 

 
Yaggaz, you have some goalz here. 

For one, it won't work.  That's a custom loop we're looking at. 

Two, the AIO is a sealed maintenance free kit.  If you take it apart to hang it out the back, your warranty is void and chances are, the tubes won't reach let alone trying to squeeze the block through a PCIe slot. 
 
You're just better off going custom cooling at that point with a new case if space is limited as I'm not a fan of hanging a rad out the rear but that's all up to you and costs will be much higher versus simple hybrid cooling.
 

Heavenswake
 
Trying to figure out the best placement if I were to get the addon kit.  I have a Coolermaster Case Master 5 with a 240mm rad on the top for my CPU.  That leaves only the front for mounting it, do I use it as an intake and give warmer air to my cpu or use it as exhaust with the only intakes being the 3rd fan on the bottom and the rear fan as intake with a noctua?

 
In your case and looking at your case specs, radiator support is only at the top and the rear or so its says. 
 
What most will do with today's designed cases is use the filtered bottom, front and top as intake and use the unfiltered rear as exhaust.  This will naturally create positive pressure internally as the air will makes its way out the unfiltered back.  


Are you still able to fit the top 240mm to the front?  That would be the best way to test fit for a GPU Hybrid.  Worst case scenario, you add a single 120mm AIO for your CPU cooling in the rear as exhaust, remember, you want bottom, front and top as intake so it pushes that cooler ambient air through the rads and into the case before it leads itself out the rear and than use the top for the 240mm GPU Hybrid as intake.
 

evan.lord

Will the 30-series hybrids actually have series-specific branding or will they literally all say "EVGA | GEFORCE RTX" on them?
 

Here's a previous post I made of the 2000 Series which shows the RGB logo used on the Hybrids which is usually the standard for them in both XC and FTW3 GPUs.  Unless there was a design change, they should look similar.
 

Ciddharthas

laxity
Hey guys, I could use some sage advice. I've been planning on buying the Hybrid since the announcement but my recent reading on the causes of excessive AIO pump noise dashed my hopes somewhat. Reading that the position of the radiator needs to be above the pump in order to prevent air bubble noise at the pump location means that my plan to install this at the air vent at the bottom of my Corsair Obsidian 750d case sounds like a really bad idea. I currently have a 280mm radiator for my AIO CPU cooler at the top of my case and there isn't enough space at the front of my case.
 
From what I have read about the 3090 Hybrid it has quite long pipes so if I was to install the radiator at the bottom of my case with the pipes closest to the card, the "loop" in the pipe should be just above the pump. Wouldn't this allow any air to accumulate at the top of this pipe loop rather than at the pump? Or is this unlikely to work in practice?
 
Also is it necessary to install a single graphics card in the top PCIe slot of a motherboard or can you install it in a slot further down? (i.e. making the pipe loop even higher than the pump). Is there any technical restrications or limitations installing a single graphics card in an alternate slot? (I seem to remember in the very distant past that a graphics card should be installed in the top slot because it was the primary slot being initialised first during POST. Does anyone know if this is still the case?)
 
If none of the above works as I am hoping, then I guess I'll be forced to go with a standard air cooling card
 
Cheers.
 
 

First off, most motherboards have more PCIe lanes connected to the top PCIe slot, which is why in the manual they usually recommend putting a GPU in the top slot.  It will work in the other slots, but it typically wouldn’t be as fast, which would be a shame for a 3000 series card.  You’d want to refer to your motherboard manual to see what slot has the most lanes, but yeah it’s usually the top one. 
 
You can potentially get around this (sort of) if your case came with adapters that let you mount the card vertically, but this is very case-dependent (so to speak).
 
Second, having some of the AOI tubes above the pump probably wouldn’t help.  You’d want at least part of the radiator above the pump to avoid having air bubbles collect in it - it’s easier for air to collect in the radiator or pump than in the tubes.  So yeah I wouldn’t put the radiator in the bottom of the case if at all possible.  Ideally, you want the end of the radiator that has the tubes attached to be at the bottom, but this is less important than making sure that the pump isn’t above the radiator.

+1  Well said.
 
The air pockets will circulate till they are trapped so that's why it's always recommended to at least have the tubes at the lower part of the rad installation so the pockets enter and get trapped at the top of the rad.  The rad could be almost even with a GPU or higher preferably but the hoses should be at the bottom of the rad, not top.  That's the proper way to run a Hybrid and helps in the longevity of the pump.

Jacob has already answered this on Twitter. The 3090 hybrid will be at 55-60C.

https://twitter.com/evga_...13944685375709184?s=21

GTXJackBauer
Yaggaz, you have some goalz here. 

For one, it won't work.  

~mad scientist laugh~ Oh we shall see...

Yeah I think he just means 15-20C cooler at idle or under load, at any case relatively compared to air cooled.

yaggaz

jspataro99
Jacob has already answered this on Twitter. The 3090 hybrid will be at 55-60C.

https://twitter.com/evga_...13944685375709184?s=21

At idle?   Just kidding.    If he means that's extreme load then I'm  happyyyyy...

But pushing 450W of power, my FTW3 AIB is at 68C... I would think a 240mm radiator would keep it at 45C at least.