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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 12:22:36 (permalink)
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Shouldn't unless the temps are getting super high.. did you mess with the fan curves at all in pxoc?

No I left everything stock.  I think it's just the 12GHZ version VRAM just runs hot I guess making the fans kick into high gear. I can literally hear them through the headset. Sounds like my tower about to liftoff.

I just install EVGA Precision to edit the RGB lighting to the color I want and then uninstall it, as there's currently conflict between Corsair Link and Precision due to the sync feature added.


If ya can't use the fan profile on pxoc then sounds like your screwed.

There's always ek with there ftw3 block but you would have to grab a pump and red ect.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 12:47:03 (permalink)
Nah had I wanted custom loop would have gone custom loop for CPU and GPU. That stuff is way overpriced for what it is . AIO good enough these days. Only thing I could do is uninstall Corsair link and use Precision instead, but then I will no longer be able to switch the CPU pump between the preset profiles. No clue why they had to create this conflict with drivers anyway. I did report it to EVGA a while back.
 
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 13:12:53 (permalink)
Not really.. only loss is the gpu block. Everything else can be reused for years to come.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 13:22:10 (permalink)
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Not really.. only loss is the gpu block. Everything else can be reused for years to come.

Sure but it's still 800 euro for a CPU and GPU block with all the additional items needed.  Whereas you can get away with around 400 euro with AIO for both. Also I'd have to clear all the HDDs bays (which are currently all used) just to make space for the res and pump. Best solution is the FTW3 hybrid kit, but US store seems to be getting priority for now. Who knows when they will have stock in EU. I could order from newegg it would be roughly the same price without the current elite member discount after adding in taxes and international shipping. Would have done that a while back if it weren't for that other thread about the kit.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 14:14:08 (permalink)
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So I just got my replacement card it runs fine




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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 14:30:48 (permalink)
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So I just got my replacement card it runs fine






Yeh but the jet noise is bothersome.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 14:45:50 (permalink)
So what are the temps of your card?
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/12 14:54:21 (permalink)
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So what are the temps of your card?


I'll check this properly tomorrow as it is already midnight here,  but stands to reason it must be running hot considering the fans should only go to max rpm when the sensors pick up the heat. If i remember correctly when I installed Precision to edit the RGB lighting it was set to maintain 84*C from factory which may be too low for 1080ti.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 04:51:02 (permalink)
I did a clear bios. And then another ddu in safe mode for good measure.  Only had time to install the card end of the day so I guess I rushed it.
 
Everything running perfectly now. 
 

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 09:00:47 (permalink)
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I did a clear bios. And then another ddu in safe mode for good measure.  Only had time to install the card end of the day so I guess I rushed it.
 
Everything running perfectly now. 
 



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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 09:39:19 (permalink)
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I did a clear bios. And then another ddu in safe mode for good measure.  Only had time to install the card end of the day so I guess I rushed it.
 
Everything running perfectly now. 
 



Sweet!

I spoke to soon did some proper gaming now after work.
its going on full blast at around 80*C for about 1min to cool it down. So I guess its really just being able to make that fan curve or going to hybrid. Never had fans that went on overdrive and that loud.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 09:46:36 (permalink)
The card hits 80c? Well that would be a big problem. Room temps? Can we see a pic of your case with the side off?

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 09:50:30 (permalink)
It's fps spiking too when the fans kick into high gear.  Press on Mod Rigs in my post and you'll find a picture there glass panel. It's winter here I just aired the place so room temperature (20*C) is hardly the issue.
 
edit: So ran the game windowed to properly monitor the temps. It is literally hitting the 84*C mark. On the 970 I had switched to while the RMA was being processed it may have not reached the 120fps but it wasn't running hot either while trying to achieve those 120fps.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:34:28 (permalink)
:/ can't see from my phone.

Might be a bad card.. does it take like 2 mins or less to climb to 80c?

My 2nd ftw3 did that durring BF1. 82c and lock up and fans would kick into extra high gear till I rebooted the system. Didn't do that the first hour I benches the card. So something went on it.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:41:23 (permalink)
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:/ can't see from my phone.

Might be a bad card.. does it take like 2 mins or less to climb to 80c?

My 2nd ftw3 did that durring BF1. 82c and lock up and fans would kick into extra high gear till I rebooted the system. Didn't do that the first hour I benches the card. So something went on it.

Might be time to check the thermal paste on the card.

It reaches that temperature within 2-4 mins yup. Windows does not crash but the game is unplayable at that point and heck its  2014 game.  Well just sort of pisses me off. They made me pay for the shipping least they can do is properly test the new card before it's sent out. If I have to pay shipping every time until I finally have a working card it will end up costing allot. To me it's starting to look like an air cooled version of this card shouldn't even exist.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:44:03 (permalink)
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:/ can't see from my phone.

Might be a bad card.. does it take like 2 mins or less to climb to 80c?

My 2nd ftw3 did that durring BF1. 82c and lock up and fans would kick into extra high gear till I rebooted the system. Didn't do that the first hour I benches the card. So something went on it.

Might be time to check the thermal paste on the card.

It reaches that temperature within 2-4 mins yup. Windows does not crash but the game is unplayable at that point and heck its  2014 game.  Well just sort of pisses me off. They made me pay for the shipping least they can do is properly test the new card before it's sent out. If I have to pay shipping every time until I finally have a working card it will end up costing allot. To me it's starting to look like an air cooled version of this card shouldn't even exist.


Runing these on air I seen temps max at 53c with 100% fans after 45c. And that's while overclock testing before slapping a ek water block on it.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:46:05 (permalink)

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:47:08 (permalink)
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:/ can't see from my phone.

Might be a bad card.. does it take like 2 mins or less to climb to 80c?

My 2nd ftw3 did that durring BF1. 82c and lock up and fans would kick into extra high gear till I rebooted the system. Didn't do that the first hour I benches the card. So something went on it.

Might be time to check the thermal paste on the card.

It reaches that temperature within 2-4 mins yup. Windows does not crash but the game is unplayable at that point and heck its  2014 game.  Well just sort of pisses me off. They made me pay for the shipping least they can do is properly test the new card before it's sent out. If I have to pay shipping every time until I finally have a working card it will end up costing allot. To me it's starting to look like an air cooled version of this card shouldn't even exist.


Runing these on air I seen temps max at 53c with 100% fans after 45c. And that's while overclock testing before slapping a ek water block on it.

Well then they clearly have  a QC issue and don't even test the replacements before shipping out.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:47:23 (permalink)
Gets just as hot with theside panel off?

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:50:15 (permalink)
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Gets just as hot with theside panel off?

have not tried that since the airflow is good and the Mobo temps, m.2 ssd all stay bellow 40*C. I can try but I highly doubt it will make  difference.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 10:57:26 (permalink)
Only 2 fans blowing in from the front? Hard drive cages blocking air flow. The heat pumping off your card will also heat up your cpu since it's going to exit threw your cpu rad.

A fan blowing in from the left there the i/o ports would help. Would ha e to remove a few plates for the air to pass threw under the card.. the opening on the back side would also help with passing air in.

Twist tie up a fan to blow in and see the difference.. the left fan is the gpu fan and will soak up that fresh cool air.

If that and or removing the side panel off helps then time to get a new case with more air flow.

Also set up a more aggressive fan profile for the card in pxoc. Get the fan kicking to 70-75% starting at 40c to help keep the temps low so hopefilly it eont get to 80c.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:01:09 (permalink)
Honestly you want more cool air blowing in then out. The heat will be pushed out all the small openings in the case and help keep dust down.

You have 4 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans that I can see.. negative air pressure. Also air is prob coming in and getting sucked straight up on an angle bypassing the card.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:17:52 (permalink)
Yes it even reached 91*C with side panel off, if anything it made it worst since opening the side panels ruins the airflow.  The 970 GTX would also overheat if it were an airflow issue, it was on 100% load for this monitor, but runs like a champ. No unstable fps, high fan speeds, nor overheating, stable at 60*C. This particular  make of 1080 Ti  "Elite 12gz" just has issues, looking like bad QC. And nah the HDD cages do not really block the airflow still works perfectly fine. It may look that way in the picture.  The 3x 120mm fans are intakes at the top as well. The 140mm at the back is exhaust. Also the PSU blowing out air exhaust at the bottom +the two 120mm at the front are intakes.
 
Does the fan curve remain once I uninstall Precision again? Although imo making an aggressive fan curve is not a solution a card at this price range should not sound like a harrier jet is about to lift off in your PC room and should already be setup up to cool properly on stock settings. 
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:21:03 (permalink)
Time to crack it open and reapply the thermal paste.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:33:56 (permalink)
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Yes it even reached 91*C with side panel off, if anything it made it worst since opening the side panels ruins the airflow.  The 970 GTX would also overheat if it were an airflow issue, it was on 100% load for this monitor, but runs like a champ. No unstable fps, high fan speeds, nor overheating, stable at 60*C. This particular  make of 1080 Ti  "Elite 12gz" just has issues, looking like bad QC. And nah the HDD cages do not really block the airflow still works perfectly fine. It may look that way in the picture.  The 3x 120mm fans are intakes at the top as well. The 140mm at the back is exhaust. Also the PSU blowing out air exhaust at the bottom +the two 120mm at the front are intakes.
 
Does the fan curve remain once I uninstall Precision again? Although imo making an aggressive fan curve is not a solution a card at this price range should not sound like a harrier jet is about to lift off in your PC room and should already be setup up to cool properly on stock settings. 


Ok. No the fan profile won't stick if you close pxoc.

Yeah crack the card open and check the paste and let's see if the coverage was any good. Hopefully it's not a slightly bent cooler that's not making contact to the gpu die.

I take it like a lot of people the corsair software for your cpu cooler is not getting along with your evga pxoc?

If that's true your screwed.

The Hybrid cooler kit for the ftw3 is risky atm with it damsging cards causing them to stick at 1600mhz after installing them.. so.e even after reinstalling the air cooler back on its the same 1600mhz. Buying a ftw3 hybrid is fine though..just upgrading it to the by rid with the kit is the issue atm and no one knows why.

Going with a ek ftw3 water block is an option. It since your doing an aio for the cpu you must not want to go custom cooling.

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:36:33 (permalink)
Yes I suppose, but considering EVGA's reputation you'd think they'd at least stress test the new card before shipping a replacement, if their QC is already failing at the factory.  Applying new paste may fix the issue but it just as easily could not and in turn delay the RMA process both in sending the card back and them checking the card. I probably won't manage to do it today, since it's been a long day. No point rushing it and making errors.
 
 
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:40:24 (permalink)
I can't see them doing anything other then cross shipping you a card at no cost to you.

But at the same time.. will evga think 80c is high? Wouldn't they say that's fine??

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:42:17 (permalink)
Yea it's a big job with a ton of screws to remove the cooler. You can leave the backplate on but you also have 4 tiny screws on the i/o plate.

You want to take your time with it and don't slip!

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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:47:02 (permalink)
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Yes it even reached 91*C with side panel off, if anything it made it worst since opening the side panels ruins the airflow.  The 970 GTX would also overheat if it were an airflow issue, it was on 100% load for this monitor, but runs like a champ. No unstable fps, high fan speeds, nor overheating, stable at 60*C. This particular  make of 1080 Ti  "Elite 12gz" just has issues, looking like bad QC. And nah the HDD cages do not really block the airflow still works perfectly fine. It may look that way in the picture.  The 3x 120mm fans are intakes at the top as well. The 140mm at the back is exhaust. Also the PSU blowing out air exhaust at the bottom +the two 120mm at the front are intakes.
 
Does the fan curve remain once I uninstall Precision again? Although imo making an aggressive fan curve is not a solution a card at this price range should not sound like a harrier jet is about to lift off in your PC room and should already be setup up to cool properly on stock settings. 


Ok. No the fan profile won't stick if you close pxoc.

Yeah crack the card open and check the paste and let's see if the coverage was any good. Hopefully it's not a slightly bent cooler that's not making contact to the gpu die.

I take it like a lot of people the corsair software for your cpu cooler is not getting along with your evga pxoc?

If that's true your screwed.

The Hybrid cooler kit for the ftw3 is risky atm with it damsging cards causing them to stick at 1600mhz after installing them.. so.e even after reinstalling the air cooler back on its the same 1600mhz. Buying a ftw3 hybrid is fine though..just upgrading it to the by rid with the kit is the issue atm and no one knows why.

Going with a ek ftw3 water block is an option. It since your doing an aio for the cpu you must not want to go custom cooling.

Yup I'm well aware of the kit issue that's why I did not order it on the card that went bust while it was still in stock in EU. And nah EK block may solve the problem but its also expensive with all the added parts needed. And simply for me a matter of principle. If it needs a cooling block sell it as a hybrid kit. I mean there's no point buying an EVGA branded top end 1080 ti Elite with their air cooler if its not functional. Mite as well save their price markup and have gone for a founder edition and added an Ek block, if you get what I'm saying. From this experience alone when the times comes to buy a new gpu I won't  buy EVGA again tbh. First time and last time buyer pretty much.  Sure it happens that one has to RMA cause of factory failure, but twice in a row now that to me is unacceptable.
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Re: EVGA 1080TI FTW3 Elite (Crashing) 2018/02/13 11:58:53 (permalink)
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I can't see them doing anything other then cross shipping you a card at no cost to you.

But at the same time.. will evga think 80c is high? Wouldn't they say that's fine??

it reached 91*C.   A 1080ti having major unstable fps drops/lags is already a sign it is overheating badly. Only other thing I can think of is that somehow Corsair Link interfering with the fans or trying to control them so I will try uninstalling that just to test if its creating some conflict.
 
edit: Nope still doing the same.
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