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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/24 22:10:05
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TomSawyer2112 I have had my FTW3 Hybrid for about a week now and without a doubt I am loving it. It is the centerpiece of my rig which is admittedly, largely made up of eVGA components. :-) I didn't score too high in the silicon lottery, have settled on a 75 Mhz Core/300 Mhz mem overclock so far, but it's rock solid and cool running so I'm satisfied. I have a feeling the mem would go much higher, but not sure the returns would make it worthwhile. My only complaint is the included fan and how, as others have noted, it is unmanaged by Precision. The fact that it is a 2 pin connection certainly indicates that there is no RPM monitoring going on, so pretty basic to say the least. It is surprising that they wouldn't at least have true RPM monitoring in the fan (much less using now standard 4 pin PWM fan speed management tech), especially considering the price point. I ended up pulling the stock fan and replaced with two Noctua Industrial NF-F12's (2k RPM versions) in push/pull config with a thermistor attached to the backplate to allow the fans to ramp up as temps rise. It is working well, but would really prefer to let Precision (which I'm a big fan of) do the job. I'll take a few pics of the rig and post this evening. This Ryzen build has been an absolutely blast, has just felt like something special since I started picking out parts. It is my first step back into the AMD world in over 10 years. If eVGA ever builds an AM4 motherboard, I would swap my Asus Strix X370 out without a second thought!
Thank you Tom :) but the strange thing is when set it back to default, factory settings in games the gpu clock drops back by -10. So its not OC related i think. Cant even found a soultion for this. Has anyone any idea or seggestion about this?
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 05:01:21
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It's GPU Boost 3.0 related. You guys may want to try the manual curve in Precision. You can fine tune it better for each voltage. I haven't tried it yet because my card overclocks really well. Here's a decent video about overclocking Pascal gpu's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWbKCKsWVQ
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 05:17:55
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petmic10 It's GPU Boost 3.0 related. You guys may want to try the manual curve in Precision. You can fine tune it better for each voltage. I haven't tried it yet because my card overclocks really well. Here's a decent video about overclocking Pascal gpu's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWbKCKsWVQ
Great then i love gpu boost 3.0. If i dont oc and usenon factory why the hell is he dropping back?
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 06:00:42
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petmic10 It's GPU Boost 3.0 related. You guys may want to try the manual curve in Precision. You can fine tune it better for each voltage. I haven't tried it yet because my card overclocks really well. Here's a decent video about overclocking Pascal gpu's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWbKCKsWVQ
Great then i love gpu boost 3.0. If i dont oc and usenon factory why the hell is he dropping back?
I wish I knew. My card stock would boost to 2000 mhz and after a few minutes it would drop to 1987 mhz and stay there.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 06:30:37
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Awesome card. Nice and quiet. Best FS overclock I've achieved so far is 2076MHz (+76), memory at 6292MHz (+784). https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13443416Default settings with Voltage/Temp turned up it runs at 2000MHz / 5500MHz. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13441596 Haven't yet investigated a stable overclock for gaming. Default settings with no voltage increase give 1974MHz. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13331363So therefore I've been running at default settings where it's really nice and quiet. Oculus is running smooth as glass. CPU is lazy motherboard BIOS upgrade so I may look in to manual overclock but meh, maybe not.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 08:37:30
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Sounds like only very few "exceptional" cards go to +100 on clock. Mine had G and M temp LEDs reversed, Precison shows the right color for the temp but on card LEDs have them backward, M for G and G for M. Anyone noticed something like that?
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 09:16:49
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Andrew_WOT Sounds like only very few "exceptional" cards go to +100 on clock. Mine had G and M temp LEDs reversed, Precison shows the right color for the temp but on card LEDs have them backward, M for G and G for M. Anyone noticed something like that?
Yes, i noticed today, saw that the colors are wrong on the card when i saw Precision :)
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 09:28:28
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Evoflash Awesome card. Nice and quiet. Best FS overclock I've achieved so far is 2076MHz (+76), memory at 6292MHz (+784). https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13443416 Default settings with Voltage/Temp turned up it runs at 2000MHz / 5500MHz. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13441596 Haven't yet investigated a stable overclock for gaming. Default settings with no voltage increase give 1974MHz. https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13331363 So therefore I've been running at default settings where it's really nice and quiet. Oculus is running smooth as glass. CPU is lazy motherboard BIOS upgrade so I may look in to manual overclock but meh, maybe not.
this was the trick on mine, cranked the voltage slider to 100% and it stays between 2012 and 2025mhz during bench mark. +50mhz on gpu and +300mhz on memory. This is with the ftw3 fans as well, if i were to switch to hybrid I think it would be even better!
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 11:57:57
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Same here: the only way to understand that the pump is working is putting a finger on the tube and feeling the vibration... I am VERY satisfied: I7 6900 (Air cooled with a Scythe Kotetsu) + EVGA Hybrid (ejecting from rear) in a S340 NZXT case (not easy to cool) I have amazing temps. After 10 minutes running Prime (8cores /16threads at 100%) and Unigine (maxed) at the same time I get CPU 62 °C and GPU 54 °C...and the system is actually SILENT!
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 13:40:55
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petmic10
AdamInk
petmic10 It's GPU Boost 3.0 related.
You guys may want to try the manual curve in Precision. You can fine tune it better for each voltage. I haven't tried it yet because my card overclocks really well.
Here's a decent video about overclocking Pascal gpu's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWbKCKsWVQ
Great then i love gpu boost 3.0. If i dont oc and usenon factory why the hell is he dropping back?
I wish I knew. My card stock would boost to 2000 mhz and after a few minutes it would drop to 1987 mhz and stay there.
What are the temps doing at the time? All Pascal behave the same way. If it crosses a temp threshold, mine is 43C (and it appears to be every 12 degrees C, so 55C next) the clock goes down one step. Those who have worked with temps lower than 30C also see that. As soon as the temp goes above ~30C the clock goes down one step.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 14:22:06
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Is the voltage still locked like it was for the 1080ti SC2 Hybrid? The max voltage the card would go to is 1.093v regardless of what you thought you were adjusting, would love to get some proof that I'm full of it and that someone broke that barrier...
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 15:30:02
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DSP1
petmic10
AdamInk
petmic10 It's GPU Boost 3.0 related.
You guys may want to try the manual curve in Precision. You can fine tune it better for each voltage. I haven't tried it yet because my card overclocks really well.
Here's a decent video about overclocking Pascal gpu's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWbKCKsWVQ
Great then i love gpu boost 3.0. If i dont oc and usenon factory why the hell is he dropping back?
I wish I knew. My card stock would boost to 2000 mhz and after a few minutes it would drop to 1987 mhz and stay there.
What are the temps doing at the time? All Pascal behave the same way. If it crosses a temp threshold, mine is 43C (and it appears to be every 12 degrees C, so 55C next) the clock goes down one step. Those who have worked with temps lower than 30C also see that. As soon as the temp goes above ~30C the clock goes down one step.
My temps don't get to 50C. The highest I've see it when gaming is 48C. My gpu clock rarely moves anymore when gaming. A rock solid 2088 MHz. If it drops it's a split second and it's right back up to 2088. I have to think there is more to it than temperature causing the drop. I mean those temps are ridiculously low and should never cause a gpu to downclock. Damn Nvidia!
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 15:47:07
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What about VRM and Memory temp? They are just air cooled and heat up higher than GPU.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/25 15:59:22
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Andrew_WOT What about VRM and Memory temp? They are just air cooled and heat up higher than GPU.
A few degrees Celsius warmer than the gpu, nothing crazy. This card, as you know stays very cool. EVGA did an awesome job. I think people forget these cards are advertised at 1683 MHz boost and most of us are getting well over 2000 MHz. A huge boost over stock. I'm very happy with mine.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 02:01:58
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AdamInk I agree with Graphite, Noctua NF-F12 is a really good choice, you cant plug in to the gpu, you have to plug it to the moba or a fan controller to control the rpm, because its 4 pin.
- i guess that one wil be ok to replace stock radiator fan? And seems its 3 pin so could be connected to gpu? http://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-2000
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 04:06:46
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Galenius
AdamInk I agree with Graphite, Noctua NF-F12 is a really good choice, you cant plug in to the gpu, you have to plug it to the moba or a fan controller to control the rpm, because its 4 pin.
- i guess that one wil be ok to replace stock radiator fan? And seems its 3 pin so could be connected to gpu? http://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-2000
Yes, you can connect to the gpu. Iam thinking about this fan to btw :)
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 15:03:20
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I have already MSI 1080 Ti GamingX but temps now during summer are killing me (tops @ 76-77C). The card is great, is silent, does not have coil whine, but it's hot, and I'm not into custom at all. I am confident that the performance is great for FTW3 hybrid, but I am worried about noise. how about the pump noise? is it loud? I know that in the past hybrids they had their issues. And one more thing: in order to keep temps low the radiator fan need a high speed? I noticed in a review from overclock3d for another hybrid that... it seems that a 120 mm radiator is capable cooling a 1080 Ti only if the fan on it is at high rpms (but then the silence is gone)... I am planning to change mine with a Noctua P12, so I'm not sure it can handle it.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 15:25:11
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How are the ambient temperatures in the room the PC is in? If you're dealing with a 28c room it is going to be difficult to keep anything cool, even water cooled. But, if they are at a more comfortable 23c level which is where my home sits most of the time, the Hybrid will do quite well. I did replace the eVGA fan with a Noctua NF-F12 (which according to their reference material is an excellent SP fan). I currently only have 1 on the rad (pull) and my GPU temp stays below 60c under load. Now, I do have a fairly aggressive curve in place and the fan is pretty much full tilt at that temperature, but I'm generally gaming when my GPU is pegged so it does not bother me at all. At idle, it stays at 30-32c and is extremely quiet, running about 600 rpm. Initially I ran a push/pull but one of the F12's was not PWM so have a replacement on the way; even with 1, the noctua is doing a great job keeping the Hybrid cool. As far as pump noise, I consider myself pretty sensitive to the higher pitched squeeky type noises (had a coolermaster Nepton that was horrible in that regard), and the pump on the Hybrid is virtually silent. If I put my ear right next to the card, I can hear it, but it is not an unpleasant noise at all. Every once in a while, on startup I'll notice a liquid sound, but it is over as quickly as it started. Hope that helps!
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 15:47:00
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Thank you, glad to hear about the pump that is silent. So for those 60C in load the F12 has pretty much over 1000 rpm, correct? I am familiar with that fan, I am using on my corsair H105, and to be honest, I cannot stand the humming above 8-900 rpm... Yes, I am a silence freak :D Probably for the next generations with AIO they will use 240 mm radiator who knows.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 15:57:43
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gsorin Thank you, glad to hear about the pump that is silent. So for those 60C in load the F12 has pretty much over 1000 rpm, correct? I am familiar with that fan, I am using on my corsair H105, and to be honest, I cannot stand the humming above 8-900 rpm... Yes, I am a silence freak :D Probably for the next generations with AIO they will use 240 mm radiator who knows.
Then get the Corsair ML120
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 16:45:26
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gsorin Thank you, glad to hear about the pump that is silent. So for those 60C in load the F12 has pretty much over 1000 rpm, correct? I am familiar with that fan, I am using on my corsair H105, and to be honest, I cannot stand the humming above 8-900 rpm... Yes, I am a silence freak :D Probably for the next generations with AIO they will use 240 mm radiator who knows.
BeQuiet Silent wings may be worth considering as well, but as always... high performance cooling and silence are usually mutually exclusive.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 16:46:02
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howdy2u2
gsorin Thank you, glad to hear about the pump that is silent. So for those 60C in load the F12 has pretty much over 1000 rpm, correct? I am familiar with that fan, I am using on my corsair H105, and to be honest, I cannot stand the humming above 8-900 rpm... Yes, I am a silence freak :D Probably for the next generations with AIO they will use 240 mm radiator who knows.
Then get the Corsair ML120
Wouldn't SP120 be a better choice for radiator http://www.corsair.com/en...gh-static-pressure-fan EDIT: Interesting, ML seems to be not as quiet as SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj59sY_j2V8
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 16:54:49
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Check the SP specs against the ML specs: ML120 SP120 I have changed all my fans to ML (EXCEPT for the hybrid fans, because they are quiet to me) (although expensive) they are extremely quiet when operating at full speed. Just sounds like a "woosh" of air with no fan noise.
post edited by howdy2u2 - 2017/08/26 16:58:03
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 17:10:15
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Yeah, they seem to be newer thing from Corsair with SP and AF in one package, jack of all trades sort of. But check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj59sY_j2V8 Sounds like good old SP still a better choice.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 17:12:00
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Andrew_WOT Yeah, they seem to be newer thing from Corsair with SP and AF in one package, jack of all trades sort of. But check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj59sY_j2V8 Sounds like good old SP still a better choice.
To each their own, they work for me. I have 2 machines- 1 with all Noctua fans and another with all Corsair ML fans. When they get to full speed the Noctua machine sings like a banshee, The machine with the Corsair sounds like a box fan on high. My DD has all ML fans and sits directly next to me, I have an aquarium next to me also. I can hear the pumps on my aquarium speeding up and down and not a peep from my DD that is crunching full speed right now.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 17:35:34
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Corsair makes good fans, I don't think there is a big difference between two as far as noise concerned. Like ML LED option and that it's hybrid (sp/af optimized).
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/26 22:25:00
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TomSawyer2112 How are the ambient temperatures in the room the PC is in? If you're dealing with a 28c room it is going to be difficult to keep anything cool, even water cooled. But, if they are at a more comfortable 23c level which is where my home sits most of the time, the Hybrid will do quite well. I did replace the eVGA fan with a Noctua NF-F12 (which according to their reference material is an excellent SP fan). I currently only have 1 on the rad (pull) and my GPU temp stays below 60c under load. Now, I do have a fairly aggressive curve in place and the fan is pretty much full tilt at that temperature, but I'm generally gaming when my GPU is pegged so it does not bother me at all. At idle, it stays at 30-32c and is extremely quiet, running about 600 rpm. Initially I ran a push/pull but one of the F12's was not PWM so have a replacement on the way; even with 1, the noctua is doing a great job keeping the Hybrid cool. As far as pump noise, I consider myself pretty sensitive to the higher pitched squeeky type noises (had a coolermaster Nepton that was horrible in that regard), and the pump on the Hybrid is virtually silent. If I put my ear right next to the card, I can hear it, but it is not an unpleasant noise at all. Every once in a while, on startup I'll notice a liquid sound, but it is over as quickly as it started. Hope that helps!
You bought this one ? NOCTUA NF-F12 INDUSTRIALPPC-3000 PWM http://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-2000
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/27 03:52:21
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Yes, that's the one... 2000 rpm version. Still working on a way to attach the thermister to the backplate more effectively. With it just sitting on it, my temps do not vary as much so my fan curve is pretty steep to make it work.
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/27 10:43:59
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TomSawyer2112 Yes, that's the one... 2000 rpm version. Still working on a way to attach the thermister to the backplate more effectively. With it just sitting on it, my temps do not vary as much so my fan curve is pretty steep to make it work.
3000 RPM is not to loud ? Like a hair dryer ? 😅😅
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Re: EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid
2017/08/27 13:34:42
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