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https://www.overclock3d.net/news/software/darq_developer_turned_down_epic_games_exclusivity_-_here_s_why/1 On July 30th, Unfold Games, the indie developer behind DARQ, was contacted by Epic Games, three days after the company released their game's "release announcement trailer". When contacted, Epic Games offered the developer an exclusivity agreement, an offer that was later rejected by Unfold Games. In their email, Epic Games asked for exclusivity, despite the fact that the game's recent "release announcement trailer" promised that the game would release on Steam. Furthermore, the game has been listed on Steam since 2018. Unfold Games rejected Epic's proposal before finances could be discussed, though the prospect of shipping the game on Steam, GOG and the Epic Games Store was discussed. Responding to Unfold Games' rejection of Epic's exclusivity offer, the company stated that "we aren't in a position yet to open the store up to games that simship". Basically, if you game ships on several platforms simultaneously, Epic Games isn't interested. That said, Epic Games is selling pre-orders for Cyberpunk 2077, despite its presence on both Steam and GOG. In addition to this, Ubisoft's PC games are now being sold on both the Epic Games Store and via Uplay. It seems the Epic Games Store has different standards for AAA developers/publishers and indie developers. DARQ is currently available to purchase on both Steam and GOG. I agree that if consumers have a choice prices will remain competitive. Just my opinion of course.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/19 06:40:47
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/19 07:12:04
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I rejected the download and use of the Epic Games Store. They can try to entice me with game exclusivity and giveaway a game a week but I still do not want to use their portal. Maybe after much more than a fortnite of maturity.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/19 07:34:57
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you won't see that happen very often from a dev
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/19 09:25:17
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Darq looks like it would be fun with the vibe of Inside and Limbo but I don't think being exclusive would help Epic that much. An indie game isn't enough to make me want to use Epic.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
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Short story: The developer already promised it would be on Steam and changing launchers would make his pre-purchasers upset. Perfectly understandable.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/21 06:26:05
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Actually, 70% cut of millions of users, vs 100,000's of users at 82% cut makes no sense. A real dev that has any smarts would make their product available to the widest audience possible. Sell it on all the platforms. The whole premise Epic games store is propped up on is a false dilemma. 
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/21 15:41:29
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Brad: The overwhelming sales of other games sold on the Epic store beg to differ.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/22 12:43:48
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you won't see that happen very often from a dev
Well, The developer was a single person and he's been sharing his updates on Reddit, He originally planned his release on Steam (like he did) so he's one of the few that kept it real, unlike the developers that said 1 thing and changed it up at the last minute.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/22 18:41:22
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Brad: The overwhelming sales of other games sold on the Epic store beg to differ.
Really you have Epic Games launcher open more then Steam? I am sure Epic store can earn a lot of money but I know if I am looking for a game I am more then likely going to check out the price on Steam first then if I don't find it I will go try to figure out what launcher it's on.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/23 00:09:14
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Brad: The overwhelming sales of other games sold on the Epic store beg to differ.
Wishful thinking doesn't make it so. Epic exclusives hurt sales of games, not help them. The simplest way to explain this would be to show the concurrent users on both platforms and the amount of accounts both platforms have. Epic can't compete with Steam's numbers on either of those.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/23 10:32:09
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It's not what I use that speaks up for the success of exclusives first sold on Epic. It's a known fact they did very well. I really don't care what launcher / client a game gets released for, considering I primarily buy it for "the game". I have about eight clients. Hurts sales - not according to the response of the sales. And, it helps the developer in the long run. By all means, any developer has the choice but I'm all for it if it contributes to the success of their game. A few developers went that route because they needed the cashflow to finish their game. If they go to other launchers later, fine, but Epic helping the developer out is great. And, yes, lately I've been on the Bethesda launcher the most these days playing Rage 2. Opening launchers are trivial, honestly.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/26 08:19:55
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don't matter where it's going to be sold looks like some fast cash trash anyway
i'm like the other guy i spend my money where i want, i use them all also.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/26 12:54:04
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don't matter where it's going to be sold looks like some fast cash trash anyway
i'm like the other guy i spend my money where i want, i use them all also.
Fast cash trash? It's a single developer and he took 3.5 years doing everything himself, coding, graphics, etc. Seriously, Do some research (Removed by Cool GTX)
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/08/26 12:58:04
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Still trash (Removed by Cool GTX)
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/02 12:25:24
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People get mad about Epic, but Steam has not always been the greatest to me. I have bought several games from Epic and have no problem doing so in the future. I hope that Steam actually does something to improve on their shortcomings. So far, I have not seen anything from Valve indicating that they are doing anything to change. Sad, but I hope that Epic doesn't let up. Competition is good for the industry.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/02 17:10:14
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Epic for the win i will keep buying from them steam has more trash then anything now days
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/03 11:09:03
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People get mad about Epic, but Steam has not always been the greatest to me. I have bought several games from Epic and have no problem doing so in the future. I hope that Steam actually does something to improve on their shortcomings. So far, I have not seen anything from Valve indicating that they are doing anything to change. Sad, but I hope that Epic doesn't let up. Competition is good for the industry.
Good luck buying from a store with 30 games. Also, It's not competition unless the games are available on multiple platforms, good job, you fell for it.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/03 15:07:50
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People get mad about Epic, but Steam has not always been the greatest to me. I have bought several games from Epic and have no problem doing so in the future. I hope that Steam actually does something to improve on their shortcomings. So far, I have not seen anything from Valve indicating that they are doing anything to change. Sad, but I hope that Epic doesn't let up. Competition is good for the industry.
Good luck buying from a store with 30 games.
Also, It's not competition unless the games are available on multiple platforms, good job, you fell for it.
If it is challenging Steam and gaining sales in the same market, that would be competition... Good job not facing reality.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/03 18:06:52
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The biggest complainers about Epic Store I've see are the biggest hypocrites. Steam was doing this type of thing over a decade ago and have continued to do it. A lot of people were completely content with it. Some complained, but apparently not enough because it's become acceptable for only Steam to do it.
I really stopped caring. I go where the games are and use them all. It's of little inconvenience to open a program on my PC to access a game and I'm not going to sit here online and champion DRM platforms in some absurd notion that these companies care about me or that I owe them anything either. The marketing towards "gamers" has conditioned many of them to defend some of the most indefensible scum in business. It's sad.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/03 21:11:08
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The biggest complainers about Epic Store I've see are the biggest hypocrites. Steam was doing this type of thing over a decade ago and have continued to do it. A lot of people were completely content with it. Some complained, but apparently not enough because it's become acceptable for only Steam to do it.
I really stopped caring. I go where the games are and use them all. It's of little inconvenience to open a program on my PC to access a game and I'm not going to sit here online and champion DRM platforms in some absurd notion that these companies care about me or that I owe them anything either. The marketing towards "gamers" has conditioned many of them to defend some of the most indefensible scum in business. It's sad.
Some people miss the point. I pose the issue is exclusives regardless of platform, is anti-consumer. Just sell a game everywhere and let the most sales go wherever they go. This shouldn't be about Epic vs Steam, it should be about Epic vs everybody. Those posing that this is Epic vs Steam are trying to frame an invalid argument to prove their own point.
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/09 19:14:42
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People get mad about Epic, but Steam has not always been the greatest to me. I have bought several games from Epic and have no problem doing so in the future. I hope that Steam actually does something to improve on their shortcomings. So far, I have not seen anything from Valve indicating that they are doing anything to change. Sad, but I hope that Epic doesn't let up. Competition is good for the industry.
Good luck buying from a store with 30 games.
Also, It's not competition unless the games are available on multiple platforms, good job, you fell for it.
If it is challenging Steam and gaining sales in the same market, that would be competition... Good job not facing reality.
It's really not. Like Brad said, It's just anti-consumer. Why can't we have the freedom to choose? That'd be true competition, is actually doing something other than exclusivity to earn our $$. Right now they're basically saying "If you don't want to wait a year, come buy it from us" and if you think that's competition, then "Good job not facing reality"
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/09 22:21:28
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People get mad about Epic, but Steam has not always been the greatest to me. I have bought several games from Epic and have no problem doing so in the future. I hope that Steam actually does something to improve on their shortcomings. So far, I have not seen anything from Valve indicating that they are doing anything to change. Sad, but I hope that Epic doesn't let up. Competition is good for the industry.
Good luck buying from a store with 30 games.
Also, It's not competition unless the games are available on multiple platforms, good job, you fell for it.
If it is challenging Steam and gaining sales in the same market, that would be competition... Good job not facing reality.
It's really not. Like Brad said, It's just anti-consumer. Why can't we have the freedom to choose? That'd be true competition, is actually doing something other than exclusivity to earn our $$.
Right now they're basically saying "If you don't want to wait a year, come buy it from us" and if you think that's competition, then "Good job not facing reality"
It's not "anti-consumer", as Steam or any other company could do the same. Why was no one complaining when Microsoft was doing the same? There are quite a few games on Steam that are exclusive to Steam, why does no one complain about those?
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Re: DARQ developer turned down Epic Games exclusivity - Here's Why
2019/09/10 13:46:44
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People get mad about Epic, but Steam has not always been the greatest to me. I have bought several games from Epic and have no problem doing so in the future. I hope that Steam actually does something to improve on their shortcomings. So far, I have not seen anything from Valve indicating that they are doing anything to change. Sad, but I hope that Epic doesn't let up. Competition is good for the industry.
Good luck buying from a store with 30 games.
Also, It's not competition unless the games are available on multiple platforms, good job, you fell for it.
If it is challenging Steam and gaining sales in the same market, that would be competition... Good job not facing reality.
It's really not. Like Brad said, It's just anti-consumer. Why can't we have the freedom to choose? That'd be true competition, is actually doing something other than exclusivity to earn our $$.
Right now they're basically saying "If you don't want to wait a year, come buy it from us" and if you think that's competition, then "Good job not facing reality"
It's not "anti-consumer", as Steam or any other company could do the same. Why was no one complaining when Microsoft was doing the same? There are quite a few games on Steam that are exclusive to Steam, why does no one complain about those?
I'm not sure if you're trolling or not? Steam doing exclusives either involves them being the developers or the developers CHOOSING to release only on Steam. Not giving out big loads of $$ for the exclusive rights... Steam doesn't need the games, the games need Steam. Epic NEEDS the games, that's why they choose to dish out that much $$. Like Origin and Uplay, They host the games they develop, Uplay however chooses to release most games on most platforms, Origin however, not so much... but that's okay, because it's the game THEY MADE. Listen, I don't really care about it, It helps me save $$ by not having to buy that game anyways, So whatever, I just dislike it when people think it's okay, especially when some of those same exclusive games were crowdfunded with promises of Steam then Epic offers them a deal and the developers take it, knowing damn well if they hadn't had the support of all the Steam users, they would not have had the money to develop the game to begin with.
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