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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/24 07:58:36 (permalink)
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CHE VERGOGNA, VEDERE CHE SU Z790 KINGPIN, evga SI E' ARRENATA, E NULLA DI NUOVO TRAPELA, MI FA PENTIRE MOLTO DI AVER SPESO I MIEI SOLDI PER UNA SCHEDA MADRE GIA' DEFUNTA. CHE SCHIFO.
 

 
Mi scuso per il mio scarso traduttore di Google. Non ho mai imparato l'italiano. Detto questo, anche se non avremo mai più un aggiornamento del bios, la scheda è comunque un'ottima scheda z790 (se non la migliore). In fin dei conti, gli aggiornamenti del BIOS sono una di quelle cose in cui "se non è rotto, non aggiustarlo". Capisco perfettamente che la maggior parte di noi ha acquistato la scheda K|ngp|n per spingersi oltre e pasticciare costantemente, ma per l'uso quotidiano è comunque un'ottima scheda in grado di gestire la maggior parte della RAM lanciata. Basta non abbatterti per questo. :-)
 
In English:
Apologies for my poor Google translate.  Never learned Italian.  That said, even if we never get another bios update, the board is still a great z790 board (if not the best).  At the end of the day, BIOS updates are one of those things where "if it's not broke, don't fix it."  Completely get that most of us bought the K|ngp|n board to push the envelope and constantly mess with it, but for day to day use it's still a great board that can handle most of the RAM thrown at it.  Just don't beat yourself up about it.  :-)
 
 
 
 

Are you joking?
a Z790 board MUST be compatible with gen14, there will not be a z890
 
and this is a 1k€ z790 board, this is just UNACCEPTABLE.
 
I know that a lot of fanboy here would forgive anything to evga, but not this please.
 
ps:
not to mention the rest of the SW/FW/Drivers support that never was.
it's just a shame.


It likely won't be compatible because EVGA is folding. It's not like every other manufacturer.


and so what?
1. it's not official
2. the are still selling stuff
3. they just launched a PSU
4. maybe they will not make any new product, but they MUST provide support for products that they are still selling or not EOS.
 
 
they where perfectly operational to TOOK OUR MONEY.


It may not be official, but they're not selling much of anything on their site anymore. There's no Motherboards or PSUs in stock. While they may not be saying so publicly, my guess is they're shutting down. Either way, I wouldn't count on a bios update to support 14th gen on Z690/Z790 EVGA boards. I hope I'm wrong of course.
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/24 08:01:54 (permalink)
Not defending them here, but even before they started closing down business units and walking staff out the door, it was not uncommon for EVGA to release the BIOS for a new CPU that works on that motherboard on the day of launch.
 
For example: I have a 13900k on a z690 motherboard. That CPU was not announced when the z690 was launched, so it's the same situation as 14th gen on z790 now. The official bios supporting 13900k was released on October 20th, which was launch day. So it wouldn't be unlike them to not release anything ahead of launch. It also wouldn't surprise me given current circumstances if they fail to launch any more updates given the state they're in.

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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/24 08:05:48 (permalink)
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Not defending them here, but even before they started closing down business units and walking staff out the door, it was not uncommon for EVGA to release the BIOS for a new CPU that works on that motherboard on the day of launch.
 
For example: I have a 13900k on a z690 motherboard. That CPU was not announced when the z690 was launched, so it's the same situation as 14th gen on z790 now. The official bios supporting 13900k was released on October 20th, which was launch day. So it wouldn't be unlike them to not release anything ahead of launch. It also wouldn't surprise me given current circumstances if they fail to launch any more updates given the state they're in.


Hope you're right. I'd love to have 14th gen support. Considering their BIOS team already left (at least the key players), it wouldn't surprise me if they're done with BIOS updates as a company.
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/24 19:07:17 (permalink)
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CHE VERGOGNA, VEDERE CHE SU Z790 KINGPIN, evga SI E' ARRENATA, E NULLA DI NUOVO TRAPELA, MI FA PENTIRE MOLTO DI AVER SPESO I MIEI SOLDI PER UNA SCHEDA MADRE GIA' DEFUNTA. CHE SCHIFO.
 

 
Mi scuso per il mio scarso traduttore di Google. Non ho mai imparato l'italiano. Detto questo, anche se non avremo mai più un aggiornamento del bios, la scheda è comunque un'ottima scheda z790 (se non la migliore). In fin dei conti, gli aggiornamenti del BIOS sono una di quelle cose in cui "se non è rotto, non aggiustarlo". Capisco perfettamente che la maggior parte di noi ha acquistato la scheda K|ngp|n per spingersi oltre e pasticciare costantemente, ma per l'uso quotidiano è comunque un'ottima scheda in grado di gestire la maggior parte della RAM lanciata. Basta non abbatterti per questo. :-)
 
In English:
Apologies for my poor Google translate.  Never learned Italian.  That said, even if we never get another bios update, the board is still a great z790 board (if not the best).  At the end of the day, BIOS updates are one of those things where "if it's not broke, don't fix it."  Completely get that most of us bought the K|ngp|n board to push the envelope and constantly mess with it, but for day to day use it's still a great board that can handle most of the RAM thrown at it.  Just don't beat yourself up about it.  :-)
 
 
 
 

Are you joking?
a Z790 board MUST be compatible with gen14, there will not be a z890
 
and this is a 1k€ z790 board, this is just UNACCEPTABLE.
 
I know that a lot of fanboy here would forgive anything to evga, but not this please.
 
ps:
not to mention the rest of the SW/FW/Drivers support that never was.
it's just a shame.


It likely won't be compatible because EVGA is folding. It's not like every other manufacturer.


and so what?
1. it's not official
2. the are still selling stuff
3. they just launched a PSU
4. maybe they will not make any new product, but they MUST provide support for products that they are still selling or not EOS.
 
 
they where perfectly operational to TOOK OUR MONEY.


It may not be official, but they're not selling much of anything on their site anymore. There's no Motherboards or PSUs in stock. While they may not be saying so publicly, my guess is they're shutting down. Either way, I wouldn't count on a bios update to support 14th gen on Z690/Z790 EVGA boards. I hope I'm wrong of course.


They are not selling in the store on this site anymore, it was stated by an EVGA rep in another thread that they have moved away from direct sales and are only selling through retail partner channels now, which is totally reasonable.

I also have this MOBO and will ride it into the ground so I’m hoping the statement from I believe EVGA Tech Alex that they were working on a compatibility update is still true as I’d love a 14900k or KS to run with for the next 4-5 years.
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/24 19:12:47 (permalink)
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CHE VERGOGNA, VEDERE CHE SU Z790 KINGPIN, evga SI E' ARRENATA, E NULLA DI NUOVO TRAPELA, MI FA PENTIRE MOLTO DI AVER SPESO I MIEI SOLDI PER UNA SCHEDA MADRE GIA' DEFUNTA. CHE SCHIFO.
 

 
Mi scuso per il mio scarso traduttore di Google. Non ho mai imparato l'italiano. Detto questo, anche se non avremo mai più un aggiornamento del bios, la scheda è comunque un'ottima scheda z790 (se non la migliore). In fin dei conti, gli aggiornamenti del BIOS sono una di quelle cose in cui "se non è rotto, non aggiustarlo". Capisco perfettamente che la maggior parte di noi ha acquistato la scheda K|ngp|n per spingersi oltre e pasticciare costantemente, ma per l'uso quotidiano è comunque un'ottima scheda in grado di gestire la maggior parte della RAM lanciata. Basta non abbatterti per questo. :-)
 
In English:
Apologies for my poor Google translate.  Never learned Italian.  That said, even if we never get another bios update, the board is still a great z790 board (if not the best).  At the end of the day, BIOS updates are one of those things where "if it's not broke, don't fix it."  Completely get that most of us bought the K|ngp|n board to push the envelope and constantly mess with it, but for day to day use it's still a great board that can handle most of the RAM thrown at it.  Just don't beat yourself up about it.  :-)
 
 
 
 

Are you joking?
a Z790 board MUST be compatible with gen14, there will not be a z890
 
and this is a 1k€ z790 board, this is just UNACCEPTABLE.
 
I know that a lot of fanboy here would forgive anything to evga, but not this please.
 
ps:
not to mention the rest of the SW/FW/Drivers support that never was.
it's just a shame.


It likely won't be compatible because EVGA is folding. It's not like every other manufacturer.


and so what?
1. it's not official
2. the are still selling stuff
3. they just launched a PSU
4. maybe they will not make any new product, but they MUST provide support for products that they are still selling or not EOS.
 
 
they where perfectly operational to TOOK OUR MONEY.


It may not be official, but they're not selling much of anything on their site anymore. There's no Motherboards or PSUs in stock. While they may not be saying so publicly, my guess is they're shutting down. Either way, I wouldn't count on a bios update to support 14th gen on Z690/Z790 EVGA boards. I hope I'm wrong of course.


They are not selling in the store on this site anymore, it was stated by an EVGA rep in another thread that they have moved away from direct sales and are only selling through retail partner channels now, which is totally reasonable.

I also have this MOBO and will ride it into the ground so I’m hoping the statement from I believe EVGA Tech Alex that they were working on a compatibility update is still true as I’d love a 14900k or KS to run with for the next 4-5 years.



Where do you see the z790 dark kingpin for sale?
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/25 03:28:54 (permalink)
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Where do you see the z790 dark kingpin for sale?



nowhere ATM, sold out @ Newegg, not available @ Amazon, and newegg states that restock is not granted.
 
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813188207?Item=N82E16813188207
 
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/25 08:55:49 (permalink)
for 349$ i would rather buy Z690 DARK anyway:
 
https://www.newegg.com/p/1JW-001N-000H1
 
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/25 12:32:57 (permalink)
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Are you joking?
a Z790 board MUST be compatible with gen14, there will not be a z890
 
and this is a 1k€ z790 board, this is just UNACCEPTABLE.
 
I know that a lot of fanboy here would forgive anything to evga, but not this please.
 
ps:
not to mention the rest of the SW/FW/Drivers support that never was.
it's just a shame.
 
pps: just for the records: ANY other Z790 (and B760 etc) board from ANY other brand it's already compatible with gen14 from months, even 100$ boards.
if i was not clear: IT'S A SHAME.


The drivers & FW can be updated via other avenues.  Never depended on EVGA for those anyway (on this board, or previous ones).
 
As far as 14th gen, you're right that there's a risk there; however, it's not out yet.  Whining about it now when EVGA has already communicated that there will be an update to support 14th gen seems pretty pointless.  EVGA has always released their updated CPU support late comparative to other OEMs.  Now, if they don't deliver after communicating that they would, that's a different story.    
 

 
 
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/08/26 23:35:21 (permalink)
I was able to get my Z790 Dark from NewEgg during a short restock period. Literally 4 hours after I placed my order, they were out of stock again. I tried to get the link to a friend but no luck. I think they are getting stock, just in small quantities, and randomly.
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/10/09 04:24:33 (permalink)
any life in the evga-verse?

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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/10/09 05:33:16 (permalink)
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any life in the evga-verse?


What do you mean?

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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/10/09 13:00:37 (permalink)
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any life in the evga-verse?


What do you mean?


I think he's looking for an update from the remaining EVGA team members since we are nearing release day for the 14th gen Intel CPU's. Some EVGA customers will be wondering if they'll have to buy a whole new motherboard along with their 14th gen CPU or whether EVGA will make good on their word and actually update the BIOS for their Z690 and Z790 motherboards. Times are changing and EVGA appears to be whinding down as a company, plus they've been radio silent for quite some time now
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2023/11/10 19:21:04 (permalink)
They seem dont care about the suffering of their loyal customers! sad 

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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2024/01/08 20:53:33 (permalink)
 
Is this 'beta BIOS' stable? Even though it doesn't have 14th Gen support...
 


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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2024/05/08 08:43:55 (permalink)
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Is this 'beta BIOS' stable? Even though it doesn't have 14th Gen support...
 


For me it is stable, I have a 14900KS on the beta bios and it runs just fine, as in, zero crashes, etc etc etc. 
Now this is on Win11 canary builds also, currently build 26200 pre-release24012-1717 if that helps. So beta bios and beta OS and the board and CPU are very stable.

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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2024/05/08 09:58:57 (permalink)
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Is this 'beta BIOS' stable? Even though it doesn't have 14th Gen support...
 


For me it is stable, I have a 14900KS on the beta bios and it runs just fine, as in, zero crashes, etc etc etc. 
Now this is on Win11 canary builds also, currently build 26200 pre-release24012-1717 if that helps. So beta bios and beta OS and the board and CPU are very stable.


So how is the new OS Win11 24H2? Any big suprises over 23H2. features, fixes, etc.? 




 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2024/05/08 10:44:12 (permalink)
Hi mmomega,
 
I think that there maybe some confusion as the BIOS on this thread does not support the Current Gen. Intel CPUs like the 14900KS, but if anyone does need help with their EVGA Z790 motherboard and Current Gen. CPU Support, then we do have a separate Beta BIOS and please just email me at cbencivenga@evga.com with the registered serial number and I can email it to you.
 
Previously mentioned here: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3621565 
 
mmomega
Nereus
 
Is this 'beta BIOS' stable? Even though it doesn't have 14th Gen support...
 


For me it is stable, I have a 14900KS on the beta bios and it runs just fine, as in, zero crashes, etc etc etc. 
Now this is on Win11 canary builds also, currently build 26200 pre-release24012-1717 if that helps. So beta bios and beta OS and the board and CPU are very stable.







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Re: Beta BIOS for Z790 DARK K|NGP|N (1.15) 2024/05/08 11:01:48 (permalink)
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Is this 'beta BIOS' stable? Even though it doesn't have 14th Gen support...

For me it is stable, I have a 14900KS on the beta bios and it runs just fine, as in, zero crashes, etc etc etc. 
Now this is on Win11 canary builds also, currently build 26200 pre-release24012-1717 if that helps. So beta bios and beta OS and the board and CPU are very stable.

That comment from me was from 4 months ago. There has since been an updated 'final beta' bios released for Z790 (link) which is working with the 14th gen CPU. :)
 
Maybe lock this thread since there's been a newer bios released?
 
 
post edited by Nereus - 2024/05/08 11:03:13


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