hi it's time for me to buy a cpu cooler for my new pc and my question is which one is best the reason i want the kuhler more is the look of the tubes the h70 gives me a toy vibe when i look at those tubes also i probably won't be overclocking i just want a nice cpu cooler and a fanless one seems like the best option but which one if i won't be overclocking maybe in the future
 
i have bought about 6 120 mm fans so i want good cooling in the pc cosmos s

realmad37 

H70 definitely outperforms the 620 because it's rad is much thicker and measured at 20fpi, but if you don't care about performance much then go with whatever is cheaper or looks nicer to you

do i need that performance if im not going to overclock and what does those tubes look like in real life they look plasticy from the pictures i have seen also the kuhlers tubes are smooth thats what i like it also has a touch of yellow

wcchamp18

I went from a H50 to the Kuhler 620 just for the more flexible hoses and extra length and the 620 is way better then the H50.  Some actual reviews say it is just as good as the H70 and some say it is no worse than 3 degrees difference.  I run a push pull on the 620 and it is quiet. I have my I7 870 overclocked to 3.6 and with my fans turned down low to the point that they are barley audible, my CPU gets no hotter that 64c with 20 runs of Intel Burn Test.  The Kuhler H20 620 is a great cooler.  Jump at it!

 
so you recommend it

wcchamp18

100% recommended!
2 thumbs up!

then thats the one i might get it looks amazing compared to an air cooler and me not being a extreme overclocker or not a overclocker at all it's the perfect decision right quiet small efficient 

wcchamp18

ZZ, I think you will find it is a good choice.  Just finished playing 45 minutes of Metro 2033 and another 45 minutes of Black Ops and and my CPU topped out at 51c.  I have really been happy with this CPU Kuhler.

question i saw that attached the text is sideways is this true as the h70 seems to have the text right way can you put it any way you want so the text is the right way?
 
oh and can the radioator/fan be maunted at the top of the case so it won't show i want best possible apperance i have bought like 5 cooler master fans with red leds and a cosmos s case and if so can the fan be mounted after the radiator instead of before as in the radiator is behind the fan and the fan is showing instead of the radiator as that means i can have one of my transparent cooler master fans on the top if that is possible and let that one blend in with my other two as i can mount 3 fans at the top then theres also the way of putting the radiator outside of the case as the case also have top options for 3 more fans so a total of 6 fans can be installed at the top
 
what i want out of this is the radiator not to show but the fan and i want the whole thing to blend in as nice as possible ass matt black might not blend in that nicely
 
asus rampage 3 extreme
cooler master silent pro 850 watt
cooler master cosmos s
asus gtx 580
black regular dvd burger 

I noticed it's cheaper than the H70 but seems available only on the Antec site. That kinda sucks really.

wcchamp18

ZZ,
You can mount the pump/heatsink to the CPU in any orientation.  Also, you can mount the rad anywhere just like the H70 or H50.  The one thing that really stands out about the Kuhler is the actual flexibility of the hoses so it allows easier mounting configurations.   The best way to mount the rad is with one fan on each side of the rad in a push/pull  configuration (both fans moving the air in the same direction) but the use of one fan will work fine also if your do not plan to do any major overclocking.  Bottom line, there is no significant difference between the kuhler and the H70 other than the hoses used and the radiator thickness.  They are both made by the same manufacturer with different company's branding on them.

it all sounds perfect the most perfect cpu cooler for a normal gaming enthusiast 

Wow just checked Amazon myself and they have it for 70 bucks. Okay well Antec should list other sites that sell it cause honestly not a lot of people will know that.

wcchamp18

I purchased mine through Amazon also.  

 
can you possibly post a couple of pictures of yours so i can see real life pictures of it would also spice up this thread lol

wcchamp18

ZZ,
Have you looked at my MODS RIGS?  That gives several pics of the mounting and you can also see how it is somewhat mounted in my drive cage.

wow that is awesome what a great idea to put the radiator in the front where it won't show at all thankyou so much for that idea 

wcchamp18

Took some fresh photos tonight. Hope you like!

it looks really nice and clean and putting the radiator is pure genious i was afraid i would be disaapointed by the looks of a huge black thing in my pc but hiding it now that is awesome the most elegant solution for a cpu cooler yet and this is trye in my opinion it is small effective nice looking what more is there to use this should be the standard cpu cooler for everyone no more air coolers if this is what lazy water cooling kits are as this is the best cpu cooler i have ever seen the corsair one is nice but the tubes have that pattern that i hate looks like toy tubes these are plain 

Null,
 
I have the Lian Li Fan Controller in my sig which I use to manually control my fans. Each fan is connected to its own control knob but if I wanted to I could use a "Y" adapter and control both fans off one control knob.  Honestly, I can leave my fans at a very low speed and it's quiet and still very cool.  The fans I use for the push/pull are  http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8409/fan-526/Noiseblocker_NB-BlackSilentFan_XLP_120mmx25mm_Ultra_Quiet_PWM_Fan_-_1000-2000_RPM_-_14-31_dBA.html?tl=g36c15s60
 
BTW, I appreciate the comments on the system! Thank you!
 

ZZ,
Ok, sorry I guess I should have gone into greater detail from the beginning. What I did was purchase these http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9611/ex-pmp-166/UNDesigns_525_Bay_Rad_Bracket_Set_-_Black_Powder_Coat_UNRBR1-BLK.html to mount the rad and fans inside the drive cage.  The brackets will fit nicely between either side of the rad and fan, it is up to you and can take some patience to find the right hole in the drive cage to get them all to line up but it can be done without any mods.  And here are the pics:


I have to say I was a little taken aback when I saw a few specs of dust in the picture. LOL BTW a nice 140mm fan filter fist nicely at the front of the drive cage.  Hope it helps.

GENTLY slide it forward or aft!  If you pull up or down...snap!...as I did.  If you break them and need new ones they can be purchased at http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/  You will have to gently pull it our like 1/32" to clear a little protrusion before it slides left for right.
 
As to if a H70 is long enough, I am not familiar with the Sniper case.  Just try to remove the rad from its mound and pull it around to see where it will go. One reason I went with the Kuhler is I do not feel it puts anywhere near the amount of stress on the MB that the H50 or H70 does.

zzcool

wcchamp18

GENTLY slide it forward or aft!  If you pull up or down...snap!...as I did.  If you break them and need new ones they can be purchased at http://cmstore.coolermaster-usa.com/  You will have to gently pull it our like 1/32" to clear a little protrusion before it slides left for right.

As to if a H70 is long enough, I am not familiar with the Sniper case.  Just try to remove the rad from its mound and pull it around to see where it will go. One reason I went with the Kuhler is I do not feel it puts anywhere near the amount of stress on the MB that the H50 or H70 does.

any chance of doing this on a cosmos s case without buying anything extra and not punching it in or trying to get it in with force i want it to go in smoothly and easily (thats what she said lol) as i want the radiator to take the empty place in the front as nothing is there anyway the dust filters are a plus i do hope they won't kill cooling to a noticable level

This can be done in any standard drive bay as long as you have space but you must have some sort of a bracket.  As for punching it in, I have no idea what you mean.  I did not have to manipulate, bend or punch anything.  The "L" shaped brackets I used worked perfectly but it just took some time and patinece while working in such a tight space and trying to get everything aligned.