python
supply and demand obviously...due to all the comments about mining and so forth. ive never seen this in all my years of gaming..people are hording because of crytomining so us gamers are left out. i just bought a 1060 and the card doesnt have the sli capability?! lmfao...thanks evga. its going back,i dont give a hoot if i have to buy a used 980/970 of craigslist...how the heck can u make a gaming card without sli? brilliant

Yup.. just sold my 2x 980s last night to the same guy.. prob for the same reason!

Yeah these prices are beyond crazy, my local microcenter is always out of stock now :(

BRAGM
I would argue 1080ti pricing and availability are in fact impacted from mining. Your estimates are not accurate based on GPU mining efficiency available in the market today.

 
I estimate that there are about 3 times as many AMD cards used in mining as Nvida cards.
Ethereum ALONE has AT LEAST 3 and more likely 4-5 times as many GPUs mining as all other coins COMBINED, the large majority of those ETH mining cards AMD RX 470/480/570/580 models.
This figure is estimated from hashrates of each card vs. total network hashrates - my actual ESTIMATE last time I did it was "almost 4 times as many".
 
Mining affects AMD a LOT faster and harder than Nvidia, even today, since Nvidia-friendly coins tend to be a lot smaller in total value and can't soak the hashrate of as many GPUs.
Many of the bigger such coins (like ZCash) are near-neutral for hash/$ when cards are priced near MSRP, so if anything I am probably UNDERestimating AMD vs NVidia usage in mining overall.

AHowes
Tbought.. pretty soon they will figure out how to use the Xbox one x to mine. Hell it's got a 980ti I hear or equivalent?

In specs, it's close to a RX 580 - but I don't think they have the power budget to handle running it at full capability as a miner long-term.
Gaming usage doesn't have the high SUSTAINED load factor of mining, so while it appears to deliver mid-to-upper range RX 580 performance in gaming, I don't think it could handle full-power mining usage at that level.
It would probably be closer to the performance of a RX 560 or perhaps a low-end RX 570 (has the SAME MEMORY as a low-end 570 or 580 4GB card on memory speed) for mining usage.
 
Academic point right now since it doesn't look like anyone has managed to get the XBox One X to boot anything other than it's own OS, unlike the PS4 that has had LINUX available since somewhere in 2016.
If someone HAS a link to the XBox One X running something like LINUX, I'd like to see it.
 
 

I'm trying to build a mining rig for ZEC right now after trying my 1080 Ti out last week, and thats when I realized how insane it is right now.  Hardware from multi gpu mobo's, to PSU's, to even entry level CPU's are 100% out.  Even craigslist contacts I've managed to hit, realized what they had and decided to de-list their items.  Only choice is ebay ASICs for BTC/LTC, or try and get some overpriced cards.  Downside to over paying is ROI goes up and by the time you get ROI, difficulty of mining raises lol.  It's not all it's cracked up to be when there are hardware shortages, that is for sure!  I'm not looking to go too nuts, I'd just like to be able to obtain 4 1070/1070 ti/1080/1080 ti to see how it goes.  Then just use my godly gaming PC "The Cube" mini ITX build with a 1080 Ti to mine when im not using it.  Right now, I feel like I can't game as I'm gaming my money away LOL!

i paid 369..400 with tax for a 1060 6gb from best buy. 6 month financing so its not that bad to get my pc up and running..but no sli is a joke. my only guess is they are trying to keep people from buying them out? only 1 per pc..lol ;)

lmfao...960 had sli..760 had sli...didnt think i had to research a new gen card for that capability...and i sure dont need some pompous admin telling me what i should and shouldnt do..got it. 

assumed u were an admin the way u seem to be involved in every post....i mean 16000 posts in less than 5 years is adminish..but some just live to stay in the know about pc hardware..i only get involved when the time for an upgrade or failure is present. so missing a basic fact like sli being non existent when its been present in every card for a long time...thats just being presumptive on my part..but an epic failure on the manufacturer 

SLI is outdated, with DirectX 12 going mainstream and not NEEDING or WANTING the limitations of SLI.
 
High post count is not always an admin - I tend to high post counts on most places I post at all 'cause of fairly wide ranging interests and a strong tendency to want to help people (with varying levels of success) and I've not been an "admin" anywhere for a couple decades.

the_Scarlet_one
Nvidia removed sli from the Titan V as well. Not sure what they are doing or why they are doing it. Nvidia has been moving away from sli support since the 750 released as the first Maxwell card, and it didn’t have sli, then the 950 and 960 dropped to one sli finger, and after that the 1060 and below lost sli completely. Nvidia decided that “high bandwidth bridges” were important, and stopped releasing single finger sli bridges. Nvidia doesn’t care what users think... they already own the end users wallet with every release, because people are going to buy whatever they can no matter what Nvidia does.

I was an admin for almost two years on the forum. Post count has nothing to do with admin status and no idea why the two would even be linked.

moved away from sli? https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/sli/supported-gpus?field_gpu_type_value=All



so u were an admin..excuse me for not keeping up with ur position around here. anyway u slice it 16k posts is a bit excessive...lot to say? or little to do other than this?

python

the_Scarlet_one
Nvidia removed sli from the Titan V as well. Not sure what they are doing or why they are doing it. Nvidia has been moving away from sli support since the 750 released as the first Maxwell card, and it didn’t have sli, then the 950 and 960 dropped to one sli finger, and after that the 1060 and below lost sli completely. Nvidia decided that “high bandwidth bridges” were important, and stopped releasing single finger sli bridges. Nvidia doesn’t care what users think... they already own the end users wallet with every release, because people are going to buy whatever they can no matter what Nvidia does.

I was an admin for almost two years on the forum. Post count has nothing to do with admin status and no idea why the two would even be linked.

moved away from sli? https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/sli/supported-gpus?field_gpu_type_value=All



so u were an admin..excuse me for not keeping up with ur position around here. anyway u slice it 16k posts is a bit excessive...lot to say? or little to do other than this?

Nvidia stopped official support of 3 and 4 way sli with the 1000 series GPUs. Now to get it active, users have to humor through hoops to get it to work. Posting a link like that shows you had the capability to open it and see the 1060 wasn’t on the list before purchase.

16k posts, usually showing people the obvious things they should have looked up themselves before posting. ;-)

the_Scarlet_one

python

the_Scarlet_one
Nvidia removed sli from the Titan V as well. Not sure what they are doing or why they are doing it. Nvidia has been moving away from sli support since the 750 released as the first Maxwell card, and it didn’t have sli, then the 950 and 960 dropped to one sli finger, and after that the 1060 and below lost sli completely. Nvidia decided that “high bandwidth bridges” were important, and stopped releasing single finger sli bridges. Nvidia doesn’t care what users think... they already own the end users wallet with every release, because people are going to buy whatever they can no matter what Nvidia does.

I was an admin for almost two years on the forum. Post count has nothing to do with admin status and no idea why the two would even be linked.

moved away from sli? 



so u were an admin..excuse me for not keeping up with ur position around here. anyway u slice it 16k posts is a bit excessive...lot to say? or little to do other than this?

Nvidia stopped official support of 3 and 4 way sli with the 1000 series GPUs. Now to get it active, users have to humor through hoops to get it to work. Posting a link like that shows you had the capability to open it and see the 1060 wasn’t on the list before purchase.

16k posts, usually showing people the obvious things they should have looked up themselves before posting. ;-)

Titan V uses NVLink which is far more powerful than sli for ai - the stated market for this card. Works directly over pcie to share common memory. A hugely desirable feature for inferencing.

[edit]

The above is, in fact, incorrect. Titan V does not support nvlink. Very interesting. It does support tcc (tesla compute cluster) mode over pcie which is still plenty fast.

Why Why !!! Cryptomining is killing me.

python
u said they were moving away from sli support..now its 3 or 4 way sli? unreal..and u posting 16k because u think u need to show people obvious things only furthers my previous pompous remark..u dont need to tell me anything..nor is it ur bzness to do so..but hey ur bumping ur post count and by the time this thread is over...most likely 17k...like i said before...little to do other than this...meaning,no life. ill bet ur a real winner to be around if u have a job.

Your reading skills prove to be exceptional! Nvidia support official 3/4 way sli support and is seemingly moving away from the support in general. Maybe you could look into some reading classes. Just because you can’t understand the most basic thing doesn’t mean that my post count has anything to do with this conversation. Back on topic, I provided a link to at least one ligitimate reseller that has stock, maybe you could do something useful?

Yea and I am lucky to have a microcenter and no there's no cards since Xmas! Yeah maybe a 1050ti card because no one wants them.

Edit: haha just looked and nope!! 0 1050ti cards in stock.. guess it's the popular hold me over till cards become available.


Edit: there are a few pre built systems with a 1080ti though and I wonder how many bought them to part it out just for a 1080ti starting at $1899.99. Lol.

kougar
Fry's has been sold out for some time. They list the cards, but stores are sold out and "Not Available Online for Shipping" applies to everything. It's a very stupid arrangement, every store in the US could be sold out and they will still appear to be in stock. Even if they did have stock, most cities don't even have a Fry's or Microcenter around. 

That should definitely be changed. There is no reason they should sell something they do not have, unless they show it backordered before it is added to the cart.