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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 10:14:15
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squall-leonhart Beware of fake/stolen cards on ebay. There are listings going up and being sold for 1080 and 1080ti's at $200 and lower right now on EBAY. It is extremely shady.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192434712515 $100 USD for 1080 Ti ^0^
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 11:20:15
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B&H photo had 5 or 6 cards in stock a couple days ago that they couldn't sell because they don't sell during Jewish Holidays. 10 seconds after they were actually available they were gone
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 17:22:45
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I'm hoping to snag a 1080ti from the evga storefront keep on refreshing XD
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 18:03:24
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ThatOldRedNeck I'm hoping to snag a 1080ti from the evga storefront keep on refreshing XD
Me too. A couple weeks ago my wife (who knows basically nothing about gaming) came to me frustrated that she couldn't find a 1080ti for me for my birthday. She had heard me talking about it but had no idea how hard it would be to get one nowadays (Fortunately she's smart enough not to fall for the huge prices from Newegg and Amazon resellers.), and was pretty upset that she'd "found the perfect gift" but couldn't actually get me one. I told her not to worry about it, that I'd get one for myself, and that I should be able to find one by my birthday so she could "give" it to me. Two weeks later, 3 days away, and I'm getting pretty frustrated. Though, I wish I had found the EVGA forum a few days ago; just been using nowinstock and having no luck. Who knew recieving a birthday gift could be so stressful. :P
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 18:29:48
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Actually those B&H cards went OOS in around 5 secs...I tried to get one but I presume the autofill-bot users got it first.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 18:49:59
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arestavo Yeah, that and you aren't shopping around for the best price? Amazon has third party sellers and Amazon can't control what price they charge.
great site link. That will help a lot.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/22 20:49:27
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QuintLeo The GTX 1080 ti does NOT have much demand from cryptocoin miners, nor has the pricing gone up much on it at ALL this year. Any price rise would be due to the rise in MEMORY pricing.
This is incorrect. The price of the GTX 1080ti is very much impacted by cryptocurrency mining. This actually isnt hard to check. Just compare the suggested MSRP from the manufacturer to the price at a retailer. Any difference is due to price gouging, as it's the manufacturer that absorbs the RAM markup. Also, the change in memory pricing hasn't drastically altered the pricing of these GPUs. Take for example EVGA GTX 1060 6GB lineup. Suggested MSRP before RAM price increase: GTX 1060 Gaming = $249.99 GTX 1060 SC = $259.99 GTX 1060 SSC = $269.99 Suggested MSRP afterRAM price increase: GTX 1060 Gaming = $274.99 GTX 1060 SC = $289.99 GTX 1060 SSC = $309.99 Those increases are due to memory price increases. But then look at EVGA's 1080ti lineup. The vast majority are below $800 suggested MSRP, yet these same cards are $1,000+ at most retailers. This is due to cryptocurrency-induced supply and demand. Most miners aren't going for these cards. You're correct in stating that. However, miners are eating up the inventory of the mainstream cards. This is causing people to move up to the 1080/1080ti or down to the 1050/1050ti, depending on their budget constraints. And that increased demand for these cards is what's causing them to be gobbled up, thus raising their prices.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/23 11:44:37
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At the time I posted that ABOUT A MONTH AGO, pricing had NOT gone up a lot on the 1080 ti and it was still widely available. The big jump in price due to the severe lack of stock and resulting gouging happened shortly after that post. I'm sure you're correct about "gamers moving up" being a large factor in what's running the 1080 ti out, more than miners - but yes, I am sure you're correct IN PART about gamers being forced to move up by "miner caused" shortages in "lesser" cards. However, I found an interesting tidbit yesterday in an article dated October 29 2017, where TSMC "verified" that they were going to start shifting production of NVidia GPUs from the Pascal to the Volta generation GPUS "later this year". Given lead times on chip deliveries, at least PART of this shortage on the NVidia side appears to be lack of GPU production as NVidia gears up for Volta launch, probably end of March at GTC - and the timing indicates that it might be a HARD launch this time around, as opposed to the "soft" launch Pascal had.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/23 11:58:14
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Only three possible things I see ending the shortage. Ethereum moving to Proof Of Stake, and some other coins following suit Time (yeah I know, that sucks) And the third, which is completely OFF THE TABLE, is the end of Net Neutrality.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/23 12:53:56
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I see the shortage ending if one of the following happens: Ethereum finally moves to Proof of Stake (due late this year on their current estimated timetable as I recall) at which point MILLIONS of GPUs will be looking for new homes - some of them ending up NOT in mining rigs. Cryptocoin pricing drops back to November 2017 levels OR LESS. VERY slowly over time it might ease if coin prices stay fairly stable for a long time, as hashrate climbs and eventually drops profitability enough that folks stop building new rigs - like this summer and fall when coin prices got semi-stable after the big early-spring price rise. This option is likely to take 6 months to a year though, and I consider it rather unlikely. Net Neutrality going away I don't see affecting mining at all, as mining is very LOW bandwidth while ISPs are concerned about HIGH BANDWIDTH usage that overloads or clogs up their systems and there is NO viable economic model where it would make sense for them to try to impose bandwidth limits on mining. For perspective, I ran my farm on an Exceed Sat connection for 2 years, and on a junky Virgin Mobile USA 3g cellular connection for a few years before that, NO ISSUES other than the expected occasional "sky full of condensed/frozen water" outages and I wasn't anywhere near the bandwidth cap due to mining. Volta introduction I expect to provide a small VERY SHORT TERM relief in card availability, as I'm pretty sure Nvidia is building up stock to have on hand for the "availability date", but I'd not bet on it being more than a week or two of relief even if the high-probability "most retailers limiting sales to 1 or 2 per person" launch sales restriction happens.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/23 16:50:22
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They've raised some prices again :/. 1070 ti prices went up another $20.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/23 19:06:21
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Supply and demand.. Zero supply from OEM's and insane demand by Crypto Miners.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/23 22:11:53
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$20 could also be due to the memory price increases that have been happening the last year or so.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/24 02:18:20
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All I know is because of my loyalty to EVGA and wanting a specific card choice for my system it looks like I am stuck with my GT730 until Volta comes out. I got a notification at 12:48 this morning that a card I wanted was available. Unfortunately I was sleeping. :)
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/24 03:45:31
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Kind of silly there is not a que system for people that want a card. Nvidia store has cards in stock of the titan xp flavor. I settled for one out of need. Currently running a few pc's with everything from a 280gtx thru 780ti, mostly evga. I was waiting to build 3 new systems but was not impressed by skylake x. Hopefully 4th Q 2018 will have a better X processors. In the mean time, im at the mercy of components failing, which are not worth replacing. I dont believe in upgrade. The only upgrade is a fresh build. Then piece together a box for the kids or a spare router using the left over parts.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/25 18:41:45
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OEM just need to set aside cards that have are hard wired to suck at mining and still allow perfect gaming. or pray for a crash in mining profitability. Then cards will be free!!!
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/25 19:53:05
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FBHERO OEM just need to set aside cards that have are hard wired to suck at mining
You need to get a clue :\
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/26 04:04:33
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The capabilities that ALLOW for high-end current gaming are largely why the cards CAN be used for mining. As long as they can crunch numbers, like for PhysX (sp?) usage, they'll be usable for other things like Folding and BOINC work and Crypto work (including CryptoMining) and such.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/26 11:33:09
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How Dare You Mix Crypto Mining with Folding and BOINC Projects This is NOT Gridcoin or Curecoin This is EVGA @ Home Folding@EVGA - Distributed Computing for the Greater GoodDid you know that your EVGA graphics card has the potential to help fight disease? While this notion might seem far-fetched, it is very real with the help of the Folding@Home Distributed Computing Program. Created by Stanford University, this program was developed to utilize the computing power of everyone's PC to help Stanford with their goal of understanding protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases. Diseases like Alzheimer's, Mad Cow, CJD, ALS, Huntington’s, Parkinson’s disease, and many cancers or cancer-related syndromes may one day be better understood by using our combined effort and computing power! https://www.evga.com/folding/
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/26 18:32:13
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All video card prices have shot through the roof while going out of stock really fast, too.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/27 10:30:14
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Bitcoin can pretty much only be mined by RSIC. Graphics cards have skyrocketed in demand because most other cryptocurrency wanted to be RSIC resistant, thus relying on processing power from another source...and graphics cards proved the most efficient/price
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/27 11:33:14
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Bitcoin and all other SHA256 algorithm coins have been ASIC specific (NOT RISC, different concept) for ballpark 7-8 years now. Litecoin/Doge and the other Scrypt algorithm coins have been ASIC specific for 4+ years now - the 2013/2104 shortage was affected by Scrypt for the most part. DASH and other X11 algorithm coins, along with the small X13/X15/Quark/Qubit algorithm coins, have been ASIC specific for over a year now. SIA is in the process of getting driven to being ASIC specific by a miner Bitmain introduced around the start of January this year. GPU sales to miners have been PREDOMINANTLY due to Ethereum, which accounts for an outright majority of ALL GPUs used in mining at this point, and the fairly large majority of THOSE have been AMD Polaris cards. I finally found some "number of GPUs shipped" figures for last year - they don't split AMD and Nvidia out, but the TOTAL was a minimum of just over 10 MILLION per Quarter, very close to 50 million for the whole year. My best estimate of TOTAL GPUS used for mining is under 10 million, and a significant number of those were mining before 2017 - my estimate of GPUs sold TO MINERS last year is ballpark 5 million but that does presume that miners bought GPUs with fairly high hashrate for the coin they are being used to mine. There are quite a few articles out there talking about both AMD and Intel having a big sales year on CPUs - especially on the higher-end models Gamers love and Miners generally avoid. RYZEN based machines in particular HAVE to have an external GPU, as there are no "on-chip GPU" Ryzen models that have been sold to date. THAT is where the majority of the surge in GPU sales has gone - GAMERS.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/27 13:17:25
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Not all to gamers. I saw this posted in a gaming discord the other day. Makes me so mad. I just want a card so I can go back to playing my steam games again. :(
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/27 13:32:12
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At $1500 a pop and limit 1 per customer?? Find it hard to believe.. maybe a few no the ago they bought them up.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/28 07:11:10
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hopefully this surge in new card buyers will result in better stock for next gens cards
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/28 15:26:23
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Crypto miners are killing the prices of cards right now. They have bots buying up any stock as soon as it becoems avail and then there are 3rd party price gougers buying and reselling for insane markups.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/29 17:30:00
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The folks that have caused this shortage are GAMERS - Nvidia and to a lesser degree AMD appear to have VERY good "Chrismas sales seasons", and Nvidia is also in the process (per a TSMC announcement last October) of transitioning to Volta for it's consumer cards. My analysis of this is posted in a few other threads, I'm not going to bother repeating it. I WISH I had a "bot" buying up stock - but that more likely is what the PRICE GOUGERS are doing.
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Re: Amazon video card prices and video card prices in general
2018/01/29 17:42:35
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Nvidia has had the "Star Wars" Titan Xp models in stock all along - for a little less than the "standard" Xp - 'till the last day or two.
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