seta8967

stalinx20

Xavier Zepherious
volta is already in production -test tape outs and in the driver listings within the Nvidia drivers so they can test the chips
volume production for servers begin in fall or winter quarter - because they have to start installing 1st quarter next year
 
so Duh!!! AMD is way behind the 8 ball here - vega can't save them - at best it might meet 1080 but not titan p or 1080ti which will be out by then...with volta within fingertip reach
 
the problem was they cut the engineering staff for R&D in the RadeonTechnologyGroup (the part of the company that was make profits) and put it in the area losing money
huh??? like wha?? has AMD made much progress in mobile or CPU side? Noooooo
and at the cost of wrecking the GPU side - thx to rory reed 
 
Kadori is trying to save the gpu side - it will take time to bring back good engineers when your cash strapped - get rid of some dead weight, find new young blood and ideas
 
they can't do it losing money each quarter for 8 yrs running and try to attract and pay for staff
what they need is someone with deep pockets to buy up AMD and save it
 
the saudis are the biggest investors that have been bailing them out - but with oil prices at all time lows the faucet is running low or is shut off
and why AMD has been doing side deals to keep cash reserves up

I hear Samsung being whispered in the wind sweeping AMD right off its feet....

I've heard this rumor for years now, and every time Samsung has been asked in Korea or US the answer has been some format of "no". My wife is Korean and I've asked her to translate what does Samsung Korea say and its along the lines of they have no interest in going into that market. Samsung seems big but it has problems, and the Korean gov't is heavily invested in Samsung, so if Korea gov't thinks its a bad move to invest they are going to pressure Samsung not go that route. Judging by years of lost revenue, Samsung won't go that way.

Xavier Zepherious
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/081415/advanced-micro-devices-bankruptcy-imminent.asp 
 
they have 2 years tops
 
Constant delays in product development, and a slashed R&D budget are plaguing the company with hurdles to making any significant progress. Currently, AMD has a cushion of cash remaining to prevent instant bankruptcy, but whether it can postpone financial collapse beyond 2019 is highly questionable. Its slim financial cushion is continually dwindling as AMD attempts to remain competitive in too many markets with not enough resources.



http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/26/can-advanced-micro-devices-inc-survive-in-2016.aspx 

seth89
A large company like AMD in a small market like CPUs and GPUs doesn't just go away. They would be offered buy outs or bailouts. 
Also the company has increase its market share by a tiny bit and they are now back in the server business.
There last few products have been nice and it shows because people are buying them. Their new stuff looks promising and its just too soon to say AMD is going to fall off the edge of the Earth in 2 years. Even their market shares have doubled in value from $1.89-$4.15 this year.


 

rjohnson11
 It presents an attractive option for people still gaming on 1440p and 1080p resolutions

seta8967

seth89
A large company like AMD in a small market like CPUs and GPUs doesn't just go away. They would be offered buy outs or bailouts. 
Also the company has increase its market share by a tiny bit and they are now back in the server business.
There last few products have been nice and it shows because people are buying them. Their new stuff looks promising and its just too soon to say AMD is going to fall off the edge of the Earth in 2 years. Even their market shares have doubled in value from $1.89-$4.15 this year.


 

AMD stock was 3 USD on Jan 1, it is now $4.16. It's had a low of 1.89 and a high of 4.60 which make this stock very unstable and not a good choice to invest in. Not only that but compare that to Intels stock of currently 31.62 or even Nvidia stock currently 46.48. You can see how much of a disadvantage they are in, especially when you consider they do both CPU and GPU marketing, while Nvidia is mostly GPU focused and Intel is CPU focused. At one point AMD's stock was higher than Nvidia or Intels ever was, this shows how far they have fallen sine 2005
 
*all amounts in USD.

seta8967

seth89
A large company like AMD in a small market like CPUs and GPUs doesn't just go away. They would be offered buy outs or bailouts. 
Also the company has increase its market share by a tiny bit and they are now back in the server business.
There last few products have been nice and it shows because people are buying them. Their new stuff looks promising and its just too soon to say AMD is going to fall off the edge of the Earth in 2 years. Even their market shares have doubled in value from $1.89-$4.15 this year.


 

AMD stock was 3 USD on Jan 1, it is now $4.16. It's had a low of 1.89 and a high of 4.60 which make this stock very unstable and not a good choice to invest in. Not only that but compare that to Intels stock of currently 31.62 or even Nvidia stock currently 46.48. You can see how much of a disadvantage they are in, especially when you consider they do both CPU and GPU marketing, while Nvidia is mostly GPU focused and Intel is CPU focused. At one point AMD's stock was higher than Nvidia or Intels ever was, this shows how far they have fallen sine 2005
 
*all amounts in USD.

seta8967

ty_ger07

seta8967

seth89
A large company like AMD in a small market like CPUs and GPUs doesn't just go away. They would be offered buy outs or bailouts. 
Also the company has increase its market share by a tiny bit and they are now back in the server business.
There last few products have been nice and it shows because people are buying them. Their new stuff looks promising and its just too soon to say AMD is going to fall off the edge of the Earth in 2 years. Even their market shares have doubled in value from $1.89-$4.15 this year.


 

AMD stock was 3 USD on Jan 1, it is now $4.16. It's had a low of 1.89 and a high of 4.60 which make this stock very unstable and not a good choice to invest in. Not only that but compare that to Intels stock of currently 31.62 or even Nvidia stock currently 46.48. You can see how much of a disadvantage they are in, especially when you consider they do both CPU and GPU marketing, while Nvidia is mostly GPU focused and Intel is CPU focused. At one point AMD's stock was higher than Nvidia or Intels ever was, this shows how far they have fallen sine 2005
 
*all amounts in USD.

Stock price doesn't indicate market value.  Stock dilution has a huge affect on market value; so that the price of the stock alone becomes meaningless.  1 stock at $50 is nothing compared to 1000 stocks at $1.
 
AMD's 2015 revenue was $3.99 Billion.
NVIDIA's 2015 revenue was $4.68 Billion.
 
Not nearly as much difference there, huh?

I'll copy both AMD and Nvidia information directly,
 
http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2130467
 
2015 GAAP 
Net Loss/Loss per share: (660M)/(0.84)
2015 non-GAAP
Net income (loss) / Earnings (loss) per share: (419)M/(0.54)
 
 
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/AMDA-1XAJD4/2189664786x0x885076/17CF9344-24A5-4F08-8A73-CB3804A5E6AD/NV2016_AnnualReport_and_Proxy.pdf
Page 27, (In millions, except per share data)
 
Net income................................................... $ 614 
Net income per share:..................................
Basic ..................................................... $ 1.13 
Diluted.................................................. $ 1.08 
 
 
So AMD as of 01/19/16 had a net loss of 419M for 2015 results, and a loss per share. Nvidia has a net income of 614M and a increase in per share almost double what AMD had in loses.
You could make a a trillion in revenue, but if your overall net income is a loss its still losing money. I was going to link a stock site that directly compares the two revenue but you have to be a member so it wasn't useful.
 

Zuhl3156
Three of these in Crossfire for my Z77 2600k build seems just right.

knightsilver
$230 for 8GB at 150W, sold....

seth89

stalinx20

knightsilver
$230 for 8GB at 150W, sold....

Let us know if you can go up to 8gb while still maintaining solid Frame rates....

What!
All technical bs aside, the real question is "Can it play a AAA title at 1440p on max settings?".
More than likely, yes.

Like the guy said, 230 bucks, 8GB, 150w.
There is no other card offering anything like this.

Halo_003

seth89

stalinx20

knightsilver
$230 for 8GB at 150W, sold....

Let us know if you can go up to 8gb while still maintaining solid Frame rates....

What!
All technical bs aside, the real question is "Can it play a AAA title at 1440p on max settings?".
More than likely, yes.

Like the guy said, 230 bucks, 8GB, 150w.
There is no other card offering anything like this.

Yup. I agree. This card has some potential. Yeah it could also fail miserably and be super over hyped, but if this card is a killer it would be good for everybody, not just people who might buy it. A $200ish card that can OC to near 1070 levels for 60% of the price creates pressure on Nvidia to reconsider pricing.
 
TL;DR: everyone should be rooting for it to be a success.

seta8967

Halo_003

seth89

stalinx20

knightsilver
$230 for 8GB at 150W, sold....

Let us know if you can go up to 8gb while still maintaining solid Frame rates....

What!
All technical bs aside, the real question is "Can it play a AAA title at 1440p on max settings?".
More than likely, yes.

Like the guy said, 230 bucks, 8GB, 150w.
There is no other card offering anything like this.

Yup. I agree. This card has some potential. Yeah it could also fail miserably and be super over hyped, but if this card is a killer it would be good for everybody, not just people who might buy it. A $200ish card that can OC to near 1070 levels for 60% of the price creates pressure on Nvidia to reconsider pricing.
 
TL;DR: everyone should be rooting for it to be a success.

 
any sources about it overclocking to 1070 levels? I see so much hype that it can overclock so much and it performs at X levels. AMD probably hyped it up that it performs 980, or 980ti depending what AMD rep is talking, that it only performs that in very specific cases. We know nothing about overclocking either, we could have another nvidia where it was reported overclocking to 2400Mhz but most users see 2000-2100. Hype is bigger than game of thrones cleganbowl.