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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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AMD Radeon RX 480 failed to OC to 1400 MHz Like I said 2 days ago, most review samples are having trouble reaching anything beyond 1350 MHz. The highest reported clock is 1379 MHz. The member of the PCGamesHardware team confirmed that their sample did not reach 1400 MHz. http://videocardz.com/61422/amd-radeon-rx-480-rumors-part-6 so there is an overclocking issue and stability problems  78C and 112 watts at max OC they run hot for little overclock and have stability issues AMD Radeon RX 480 Overclocking Tool To Be Called Radeon WattMan – Reference Models Cannot Clock Past 1.4 GHz, More 3DMark Benchmarks Read more: http://wccftech.com/radeon-rx-480-wattman-overclocking/#ixzz4ChSswQdB What Man?!!! - no real Overclocking all they need is "THE HELL" to make "What the hell man" worse than i thought  XFX 480 Overclocked Card boost 1328 http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=562438&page=396 88C and 1322.6 clock? and 147 watts where the O'clocking room? ...and max is 147 watt normal boost is 1266 anymore and your fry the sucker
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
2016/06/26 14:12:01
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8GB for a GPU that's only doing 2k with a playable framerate.
what a waste. AMD has no clue do they.
They know their target audience better than you know it apparently. Not a lot of 4k out there yet. 1080p has market saturation. It's a mid-range consumer card with good VRAM quantity.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
2016/06/26 14:23:40
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 Take note 85C at 98% fan speed, stock speed at 1266 BOOST ..ie stock boost and 150.1 watt draw (that's max) room temp was 25c what overclocking room do you have? definitely reference cards have an issue as a single card NON-OC card... for an average user this card will do if you have to go 2 cards you might as well get a 1070 or 1080 $460 for non-overclockable cards vs a GTX1070 single card you can OC with no micro stutters - id vote to send where it makes sense - Nvidia and even going 1080 isn't a bad option either i just saw a OC card with power draw around 170W - 90c 100% fan speed and 1328 Clock Anyways what come to mind is are something like this and AMD power draw - vega is supposed to be 2x polaris  
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
2016/06/26 19:45:34
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Hardly anyone overclocks. We're showing a bit of our bias in this thread.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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Hardly anyone overclocks. We're showing a bit of our bias in this thread.
Most gamers I know do have a slight overclock on their cards its nothing extreme but they still do it. Even if they don't overclock they want to buy the best card they can get, how is that going to work when companies are fighting within 50mhz of each other.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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it's a mid range card - how often have you seen anyone OC a gt 9500, GTS250, GT460, 560,660 760 (no we are not talking 760ti 660ti or 960ti..just non-ti) these are high performance cards->1080,1070 and 1060ti are high performance cards - a 1060 is midrange Midrange is not known for overclocking. and generally are not made for it my guess is that kyle at Hardocp had it right when the AMD cards were originally clocked at 850 - AMD got caught with their pants down and set the clocks higher by default so you have a OC card from the get go even tho they say it's stock - so there is not much room left to OC it's that or GF has silicon issues - and leakage - which would produce heat and stability problems when you start pushing voltage higher
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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AMD RX 480 Custom Cards Can Hit 1.4-1.6Ghz AIBs Report – Asus Announces RX 480 Strix & MSI RX 480 Gaming Leaks OutAIBs – report that RX 480 graphics cards with “extremely good air coolers” are hitting anywhere from 1480mhz to 1600mhz depending on the silicon lottery. Which is 17% to 26% higher than the stock clock speed of 1266Mhz on the reference RX 480 design. http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-asus-strix-msi-gaming/ So avg 1500MHZ and HOT and serious power draw - like 1080 powerdraw from Kyle at HAROCP Kyle Bennet : AIB partners are reporting to me this morning that with extremely good custom air coolers the 480 GPUs are seeing from 1480MHz to 1600MHz clocks, but tell me it is a “lottery draw” on GPUs.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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All I have to say is....
Meh
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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I wanted so much to love this card.. OC potential is not up to snuff for me at least on reference cards, likely will pass on it. Might plan for a 1070? I'm not sure anymore.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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I wouldn't buy a reference model from either AMD or Nvidia. AMD's reference cards always run a bit warm. I've had 5 R9 290X's, 4 of them were Sapphire Tri-X's and the 5th was a reference model. The reference model was much louder and always had problems keeping up with the temps under load. Once the fan was adjusted to 65% or so, it could maintain 70C under load. While the Tri-X's were able to do the same thing with zero adjustments and it was much quieter. Just about all of them were crap at overclocking. Those R9 290X's in crossfire were worlds better than dealing with SLI on the GTX 970's I had. Microstutter on the GTX 970's was infuriating, as well as other SLI related issues. Also, when you run multiple cards in the mid-high range you will always run into a lot of heat, no matter if it's Nvidia or AMD. The GPU can run 70C under load and be stable, but it doesn't stop you from getting sweaty in your gaming room cause your PC is dumping all that heat into the room.
Most of the gamers I run into either had their buddy make their PC for them or they bought a pre-built PC. Quite a few are clueless when you start asking about hardware. The overclocking aspect is not something the majority of people utilize. Actually, most of the PC gamers that I personally know will resort to reducing graphic settings in game before considering overclocking.
I'm glad the RX 480 is out, it looks like a excellent card for $200. If I were in the market for a video card, I would definitely be waiting out for a aftermarket version of the RX 480 that has a better HSF.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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LEt's face it...
dx 12 support + 8GB GDDR5 ...
also with better drivers and a decent aftermarket heatsink (XFX or MSI)... this card will be a nice gift next X-mas!
the price is about right! the performance... mehh.. could be better i admit it!
i play at 2560x1600 and i did not like the benchies i saw with their beta drivers...
nether the less ... i'll await and see because my gtx760 still serves me sooo right!
so ok nVidia is at the top of the mountain.. good for them! but the top is a lonely place! very lonely scarce place!
the great slice of the gfx market is between 200€ to 350€ its in the middle plains!
.. so amd is playing their game quite right for now...
i WOULD never pay 500€ + for a gfx card! never! and i can afford it!
that's the sad reality---> i can afford a 500 or a 800 € card! but why would i do it?
that's insane! its not logical when a 300/350€ card plays everything on ultra! OK some people do buy them but most people with money KNOW the middle performance is enough!
and for 500€ /800€ people go out and buy a console plus a few games for their teens and kids to pass the time!!
intel prices and nVidia prices on the "latest" stuff is insane to the point i thought of quitting PC gaming! seriously!
base prices per cpu and gfx starting at 500€? insanity! that would just be 1000€ for 2 parts!
even my 27 year old brother says to save A LOT OF money and go PS4 console and play on our big screen TV in the living room.and thats it!
no more pc wires, no more drivers instalations... no more "format C: drive" ... etc... just press the ON button and play...
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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LEt's face it...
dx 12 support + 8GB GDDR5 ...
also with better drivers and a decent aftermarket heatsink (XFX or MSI)... this card will be a nice gift next X-mas!
the price is about right! the performance... mehh.. could be better i admit it!
i play at 2560x1600 and i did not like the benchies i saw with their beta drivers...
nether the less ... i'll await and see because my gtx760 still serves me sooo right!
so ok nVidia is at the top of the mountain.. good for them! but the top is a lonely place! very lonely scarce place!
the great slice of the gfx market is between 200€ to 350€ its in the middle plains!
.. so amd is playing their game quite right for now...
i WOULD never pay 500€ + for a gfx card! never! and i can afford it!
that's the sad reality---> i can afford a 500 or a 800 € card! but why would i do it?
that's insane! its not logical when a 300/350€ card plays everything on ultra! OK some people do buy them but most people with money KNOW the middle performance is enough!
and for 500€ /800€ people go out and buy a console plus a few games for their teens and kids to pass the time!!
intel prices and nVidia prices on the "latest" stuff is insane to the point i thought of quitting PC gaming! seriously!
base prices per cpu and gfx starting at 500€? insanity! that would just be 1000€ for 2 parts!
even my 27 year old brother says to save A LOT OF money and go PS4 console and play on our big screen TV in the living room.and thats it!
no more pc wires, no more drivers instalations... no more "format C: drive" ... etc... just press the ON button and play...
What exactly could be better with the RX 480? Buying a PS4 doesn't save you a bunch of money, it's just being content with less, you get exactly what you pay for.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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AMD RX 480 Causing Faults For PC Gamers – PCIe Slots Have Died On High-End BoardsAMD RX 480 Suspected Of Drawing More Power From PCIe Slot Than The Specified Limit – Reports Are Varying From Dead PCIe Slots To Dead Audio Ports http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-killing-pcie-slots/ and it keeps on getting worse for AMD
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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AMD RX 480 Causing Faults For PC Gamers – PCIe Slots Have Died On High-End Boards
AMD RX 480 Suspected Of Drawing More Power From PCIe Slot Than The Specified Limit – Reports Are Varying From Dead PCIe Slots To Dead Audio Ports
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-killing-pcie-slots/
and it keeps on getting worse for AMD
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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AMD RX 480 Causing Faults For PC Gamers – PCIe Slots Have Died On High-End Boards
AMD RX 480 Suspected Of Drawing More Power From PCIe Slot Than The Specified Limit – Reports Are Varying From Dead PCIe Slots To Dead Audio Ports
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-killing-pcie-slots/
and it keeps on getting worse for AMD
So assuming something makes it a fact? Back when the GTX 500 series was the best, they were pulling too much power from the PCI-E lanes and it was not killing the PCI-E lanes, it was melting the 24 pin molex connector on the board. It would ruin the motherboard and the power supply. It's the whole reason EVGA came out with the powerboost connector. I would expect something very similar in this situation, but nothing has been mentioned about that from what I can see... This claim has very little ground to stand on without some real tests to show the actual power draw.
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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"With Tom's Hardware reporting that the RX 480 draws (substantailly) more than the 75W allowed from the motherboard (for example, the PCI Express high-power card spec allows a mazimum of 66W to be drawn from the 12V pins of the PCI Express slot, and the RX 480 averages79W from the 12V lines alone) AMD seems to be violating the PCI Express(R) spec.
According to the licensing contract for the spec, if they do not fix this within 3 months, AMD will NOT be able to call the card a PCI Express card. If they do, they face not only litigation, but if my understanding is correct an action before the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) to ban the importation of the card as counterfeit goods. You might think the PCI-SIG will give AMD a pass, but if they do, they risk loosing the trademark entirely. An unforced trademark gets invalidated. The SIG won't let that happen.
So what does this mean to the consumer? I think there are two possibilities, if we assume AMD will not choose to remove the PCI Express logos from these cards: Either they will alter the boards to have an 8-pin socket and to more power from there, or they will neuter the card to ensure it doesn't draw more power than the PCI Express specification allows. I don't see any other options.
Disclaimer: I am an attorney, but I practice patent law, not trademark law. This post does not constitute legal advice and does not create an attorney-client relationship".
It could damage low end motherboards, and since this will go in many oem systems, it could become a problem From Tom's Hardware https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/?st=iq48wgdl&sh=f3da2d5f I suggest you read this Sustained avvg excess over 75 watts - like 88Watts over pcie slot for compliance it not suppose to exceed 75 sustained avg - peek is fine several cards do that - but not sustained because it can damage the MB THE PCI-E SPEC 12V @ 5.5A WITH MAX 8% TOLERANCE3.3 @ 3.0A WITH MAX 9% TOLERANCE12V MAX = 71.3W3.3V MAX = 10.8WAccording to Tom's Hardware: RX480 GAMING (metro 4k) AVERAGE is
82W on 12V,
4W on 3.3V for a total of 86W for example witcher 3 drawing 200Watts at stock - which is 50 watts over the 75 watts - ie 125 watts thru a pcie slot not designed for that draw - connector failures - MB shutdowns and failures
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Re: AMD RX 480 $199USD
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hell no.. with these types of issues there is no way i'll consider a RX480!
don't want my new MSI mobo melted!
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