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Hello, I just bought a new Evga gtx 780 ftw with ACX cooler. During gaming on stock settings the card throttling up to base clock sth even to 967 MHz or at least up to 993-1024 MHz in older games. It has about 80-81C. When I moved thermal target temperature the card reaches 87-88C and it's bloody loud, because the fans works at 2700-2900 rpm. I already tried to drop down a horrible fans to their standard 70% (2250 rpm) like on stock settings and took up only target temperature to 95 MHz, but card had worked on this settings over 90C in Crisis 3 it reaches 95C at 1058 MHz, and... again (I hate it!!!) throttling every 20-25 secunds to 940 MHz. The cooling system is extremely loud. I living in warm house with children so ambient temperature is about 25C, I don't know how evga cards are tested. Before I had gtx 680 from ASUS and this card worked perfectly fine, it keep boost clock, and temperature about 70C at very silent fans speed 1600-1750 rpm. Before 680 I had MSI TF2 gtx 580 and it worked louder then Asus, but it was still much better then acx cooler without throttling at 79C, even old 580 worked without throttling in low '80 degrees temperature and was not annoying loud. Every card have worked in the same case. I heard the reference cooler and it keep the same temperature like acx on stock but it had a good sound and was possible to enjoy playing games near computer case, regular cooler also keep allways higher clock then reference clock. ACX worked dramatically poor, it's absolutely unacaptable when factory overclocked card is not able to keep even base clock. Please explain me. IS IT NORMAL? The acx cooler is really as loud and is not able to keep normal temperature without throttling or maybe I bought crap? And secondly why it has sound like dying hair dryer over 2000 rpm? On stock settings the card working louder than regular gtx 780, and can't keep higher clock. What's meat For the win, is it mean don't take care of loud, and enjoy a doesn't work overclocking? I am really very unhappy, after moved from card with regular cooling system (asus 680 dc2t), previous card worked at 1320 MHz very silent and never had temperature issue. I spent a lot of money. This card is unable to work with stock clock and I have in some games worse performance. Is the any way to change this card on regular GTX 780 from evga?
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/28 19:29:25
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Hello,
I just bought a new Evga gtx 780 ftw with ACX cooler. During gaming on stock settings the card throttling up to base clock sth even to 967 MHz or at least up to 993-1024 MHz in older games. It has about 80-81C. When I moved thermal target temperature the card reaches 87-88C and it's bloody loud, because the fans works at 2700-2900 rpm. I already tried to drop down a horrible fans to their standard 70% (2250 rpm) like on stock settings and took up only target temperature to 95 MHz, but card had worked on this settings over 90C in Crisis 3 it reaches 95C at 1058 MHz, and... again (I hate it!!!) throttling every 20-25 secunds to 940 MHz. The cooling system is extremely loud. I living in warm house with children so ambient temperature is about 25C, I don't know how evga cards are tested. Before I had gtx 680 from ASUS and this card worked perfectly fine, it keep boost clock, and temperature about 70C at very silent fans speed 1600-1750 rpm. Before 680 I had MSI TF2 gtx 580 and it worked louder then Asus, but it was still much better then acx cooler without throttling at 79C, even old 580 worked without throttling in low '80 degrees temperature and was not annoying loud. Every card have worked in the same case.
I heard the reference cooler and it keep the same temperature like acx on stock but it had a good sound and was possible to enjoy playing games near computer case, regular cooler also keep allways higher clock then reference clock. ACX worked dramatically poor, it's absolutely unacaptable when factory overclocked card is not able to keep even base clock. Please explain me. IS IT NORMAL? The acx cooler is really as loud **** and is not able to keep normal temperature without throttling or maybe I bought crap? And secondly why it has sound like dying hair dryer over 2000 rpm? On stock settings the card working louder than regular gtx 780, and can't keep higher clock. What's meat For the win, is it mean don't take care of loud, and enjoy a doesn't work overclocking?
I am really very unhappy, after moved from card with regular cooling system (asus 680 dc2t), previous card worked at 1320 MHz very silent and never had temperature issue. I spent a lot of money. This card is unable to work with stock clock and I have in some games worse performance. Is the any way to change this card on regular GTX 780 from evga?
It would be really helpful if you gave us a bit more information. Particularly on your case and case fans. The ACX exhausts into the case and basically cools with the same air. So if you have poor case air flow, it really show up using the ACX style cooling.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/28 19:48:08
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I have Fractal R3 with 3 stock fans at about 900 rpm and mild overclocked 4770k (4.4 ghz) with ac cooling. Case is cleaned and cables are arrangement well. The card isn't my first card in this case. Only one card working as loud as 780 acx was 7970 from gigabyte, but I have changed 7970 to 680 after kepler release, because of AMD drivers. Although gigabyte was loud because of air flow. GA card was working always below 70C so loud issue was easy to fix using afterburner, on ACX cooler I can hear extremely annoying sound of rotation, sound of bearing and air flow. EVGA is loud and throttling it make difference. I understood that we have recession and cooling systems was made by small china hands overworked and hungry workers, but still I'd like to have a good quality card. It wasn't cheap. Even when air flow in my case isn't perfect, I have never had the worst cooling system on any of my cards.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 01:23:06
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acx cooler are just cheap, loud, annoying and for sure bad performance, that is the experience which i had with them. I had similar problems(hair dryer style) with my gtx ti 780 sc, i just brought it back to the store to get my money back
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 01:30:54
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I have Fractal R3 with 3 stock fans at about 900 rpm and mild overclocked 4770k (4.4 ghz) with ac cooling. Case is cleaned and cables are arrangement well. The card isn't my first card in this case. Only one card working as loud as 780 acx was 7970 from gigabyte, but I have changed 7970 to 680 after kepler release, because of AMD drivers. Although gigabyte was loud because of air flow. GA card was working always below 70C so loud issue was easy to fix using afterburner, on ACX cooler I can hear extremely annoying sound of rotation, sound of bearing and air flow. EVGA is loud and throttling it make difference. I understood that we have recession and cooling systems was made by small china hands overworked and hungry workers, but still I'd like to have a good quality card. It wasn't cheap. Even when air flow in my case isn't perfect, I have never had the worst cooling system on any of my cards.
Well, looking at your case, the GPU sits pretty much in a dead air zone. Personally I've never being fond of the ACX style of cooling. On the other hand, most people with a single card have been reporting decent results. You could have just got a bum card.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 02:31:03
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ACX coolers tend to run a few degrees colder than standard to start with, but I prefer blower style coolers (reference) because it dumps the air out the back of the case and I don't have to worry about it reheating the card again. Sounds like you might have gotten a defection card maybe.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 03:06:02
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What about changing a thermal grase and re installation the acx hair dryer? I still don't know is it a issue of poor quality of acx hair kit or small china hands in factory. I am going to use coollaboratory pro. Also I have a strange bios, I am not able to edit it on KBT 1.26. I can't change the fans speed range. Changing base clock or boost clock not change a real clock during tests, because card always boost up to 34 position from boost table. The same value (34 position) is also max boost according to nvinspector, moving the boost table up/down is the only one way to overclock the hair dryer card. Is very easy to make the card unstable because of strange boost table, at clock lower than 104 MHz from max boost (it is base tdp clock) card is working at 0.975V, if I remember gigabyte card working at standard base tdp clock at 1.000v and generally boosting higher, but in my card the voltage states are unchangeable from KBT. I wanted to reduce a max voltage and move boost table a little bit up, to keep stock clock and have acceptable temperature, but can't deal with current bios. By the way the max boost at 1084 MHz on FTW looks poorly, card has 61% asic and it's tend to being unstable over 1150 MHz on k-boost (100% on fans).
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 03:16:51
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The R3 is a pretty small case for a internal heat dump at only 20" x 17" x 8", considering that a mini tower runs 15" x 14" x7", but ill take a whack at it.... How did you go about installing the new card, your procedure, and did you change/update any drivers and did you add any new programs? Like you already had MSI afterburner and then installed Precision also? Did you install a new set of Nvidia drivers once you installed the new card? etc....
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 03:29:15
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Is pretty small. What You have in your mind? Is it not enough big for a ACX? It has worked perfectly well with gtx580, gtx680, I'm sure it could working perfectly well with gtx780 e.g. Asus. I have reinstalled drivers, didn't touch afterburner and precision, but I use these programs only for monitoring I always had overclocking from bios level. GTX 780 is a hot card, but I will very happy if it start keeping a factory clock without throttling and not as loud like now.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 03:45:10
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You say card throttle in older games... probably work enough to keep 60 fps. That's point of last two NVIDIA series. I say and before for older games maybe is better enable Maximum Performance in NVIDIA Control Panel not Adaptive, only for specific older game if you notice some problem. Mine card work too on 993MHz and 1025V if I play Left 4 Dead 2, why to work on full speed. She change speed 860-993MHz and I even don't notice that if ON Screen Display is disable. 60 fps constant. It's bad if you have 40-50fps and card need more power but drop clock from some reason. You say in Crysis 3 throttle too, that's not good, card should work on MAX boost speed in that game with max voltage.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 03:48:15
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☼ Best Answerby joannapodgorska 2013/12/29 03:54:53
61% asic is your problem its shame these GPUs vary so much my 71% runs 8 degrees warmer than my 77% i had to stick the 71% on the bottom to even out temps because gaming it would reach 15 degrees over the 77% GPU. Now they are pretty much even. Your GPU is drawing more juice just to stay stable that's why its getting so hot. Ill have my 2 classfield Monday to see if any better than my current 780s but not holding my breath. edit ATM im getting 1200 on both cores @ 1.17v and never go over 75c this is with ACX coolers and is pretty quite
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 03:51:48
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I am able to see when card is working on thermal throttling and when it's working in power saving mode. In old games like far cry 3 is thermal throttling  Kepler will not keep a boost clock only below 50% gpu usage. @Demo Why it was sold with factory overclocking?
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 04:06:37
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I am able to see when card is working on thermal throttling and when it's working in power saving mode. In old games like far cry 3 is thermal throttling Kepler will not keep a boost clock only below 50% gpu usage.
@Demo Why it was sold with factory overclocking?
I am having problems in Far Cry 3 too. My primary video board was reaching 80° and throttling. This is the only game where my video board gets hot enough to throttle. I am trying to use the in game V-sync settings to limit the GPU usage but I can't get it to work right. I have my GPU still reaching 71° while only getting around 75-90 FPS. I am using WHQL driver 331.82 and have a very aggressive fan profile in MSI Afterburner where my fans are running their fastest after reaching 55°C.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/29 08:42:52
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Zuhl try D3DOverrider to force v sync with triple buffering in all games for me it's necessary on SLI. Works fine also in crisis 3 and assassin's black flag (before last patch). You will extremely happy.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2013/12/31 01:11:57
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Is pretty small. What You have in your mind? Is it not enough big for a ACX? It has worked perfectly well with gtx580, gtx680, I'm sure it could working perfectly well with gtx780 e.g. Asus. I have reinstalled drivers, didn't touch afterburner and precision, but I use these programs only for monitoring I always had overclocking from bios level. GTX 780 is a hot card, but I will very happy if it start keeping a factory clock without throttling and not as loud like now.
Well, first thing is you cant have Afterburner AND Precision installed on the same PC, unless your dual booting OS', because they are essentially the same program and they will conflict with each other and you def cant run them both at once without all kinds of issues and errors. So you need to remove one or the other and then use ccleaner and clean out the old traces of which ever one you choose, but beware that this could destroy the entries for the other during cleanup since they are so alike and you may have to remove both and then reinstall whichever you want to go with. That's probably a lot of the reason why your getting the throttling and crazy behavior. You cant overclock the gcard from the bios, so im not sure what you mean there. After you install a new g-card in your system its usually a good idea to do a cmos reset and let your pc correctly detect the new hardware for pass off, so if you haven't done that you probably should and then reboot, go into your bios and resetup your bios settings, save and reboot. 25c ambients,76F, is pretty warm to start with and probably contributes to a lot of your heat issues too, especially with your smaller case environment. 80c is not a good temp to run your gfx at really, that doesn't mean it cant be done, but that chip wont last too long under those conditions. You need to setup a profile on Afterburner or Precision whenever you get that mess straightened out and see if you can get those temps down some. If you didn't use the proper uninstall/install routine for the Nvidia drivers that's gonna contribute to your headache also. Go here and use Maniacc's guide: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1776353#1776353 You seem to have a lot of little things that are mounting into one big issue. Once you start knocking some of this out it should straighten out for you.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/01 20:51:47
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THX for help. At the end I decided to edit bios. I turned off boost and change clocks to the same for base and boost clock also overwrite tdp limits to the same for every profiles. Voltage adjustment for P0 looks like locked, so I decreased voltages on different way, just limited max boost on 1084.5 MHz. I moved a boost table a little bit higher to got the beast ratio clock:voltage. At this moment I have constant clock 1084 MHz at 1.1V and going to try lower voltage. In my previous kepler cards lowering fan % range was changing a aggressiveness works of fans. E.x. 40-70 (narrow range) > low max, but fans pretty quickly was reaching max rpm, 5-100 (wide range) > 'Asus style' increasing fans speed slowly but with max speed at very high temperature. Unfortunately KBE 1.26 probably doesn't support fans adjustment on FTW pcb. Bios is not as easy to edit like on cards with regular pcb, so if sb like to edit it for overclocking or better clock:voltage ratio is much better to buy card with regular PCB. At this moment card is cool and not very loud, but still in my opinion this cooling system is crap. After undervolting I have similar power consumption like on 680 after OC, but Asus card was much better. difference between asus dcu and acx is like between night and day. I can't imagine this cooling system on superclocked 780ti it's sound for me like joke...I becoming afraid of hair dryers after I was hearing for a few hours acx on factory settings. Never ever evga card even for a half price.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/02 09:26:23
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Interesting ... I am running a GTX 780 SC w/ACX and I do not seem to be having these issues ....
I can play Assassins Creed IV Black Flag for hours with all the settings maxed out ...
my case is a Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ...
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/02 10:25:12
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Interesting ... I am running a GTX 780 SC w/ACX and I do not seem to be having these issues ....
I can play Assassins Creed IV Black Flag for hours with all the settings maxed out ...
my case is a Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced ...
I have a cooler master HAF too(don't knkow which number or whatever but it's a huge thing with a huge fan on the side) and my 680 @ 1300mhz doesn't go over 70 degrees...ever with automatic settings. 60ish is the max if I max out the fans ...but then again this is the triple slot asus 680. that thing is a cooling monster. but I think this is mostly the small case and bad airflow. people seem to buy these ACX style GPUS with ****ty airflow and small cases and then complain about temperatures and throttling :/
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/03 03:13:53
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I also had 680 from asus with dc2. Never seen more than 70C when gaming! Card worked at 1267 MHz in the same case and was VERY silent. ACX on 780 after moved to 95c target temp works louder than TF2 on my old gtx 580. On factory settings throttling below base clock.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/03 06:48:20
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Weird. I have two 780 ACXs in quite possibly the worst air case of all time (Corsair 800D), and they're audible, but nowhere near the loudest cards I've ever owned (those would be a pair of single-slot XFX 8800 GTs). They're sharing a case with a 4930k and pushing a 1440p display, so the workload should be sufficient to heat them up (they hit 71 and mid-60s, respectively).
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/07 23:55:42
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Regarding this problem? Is their a chance that EVGA might do a silent optimized non OC version of the 780 / 780ti. (or a DUAL BIOS version with one being a slient BIOS) For many rendering tasks the OC is not worth the increased noise and I would like to replace my dead silent 670 Sig2 wit somethign not much louder and from EVGA.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 10:50:17
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Wow, still bummed that ACX still is having noise problems. I returned my 780 ACX SC a few months ago due to noise and have been waiting for the kinks to get worked out. At this point I'm wondering if I should just wait for 800 series cards to come out. My 670 FTW isn't silent, but moreso than my 780 ACX was.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 10:54:59
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I wonder why the ACX noise seems to be so prevalent on the 780 cards?
I have the GTX 770 FTW w/ ACX, and it is very quiet for me.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 16:57:00
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Just imagine the same cooler like on your 770 on a card with 150% tmu/rop/sp... If I know on 770 acx cooler is working below 1800 rpm below 80C. On 780 it's working at 2200 rpm at about 80c, but on my card I had throttling up to base clock, becouse overheating. My card needed about 2700 rpm to keep temperature below 80c, even outside a case.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 18:08:14
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When I had a single 780 SC ACX on my case, it would never go over 67 degrees on any game and the card boosts to 1132 Mhz; I never heard the Graphic card fans... Very different experience from yours... Now on SLI; the card goes up to about 78 degrees, unfortunately; but still love the SLI performance.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 18:32:17
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My GTX 770 Boost Clock's to 1241 Mhz. The hottest I have seen it was running 3DMark 11, and it got to 73c I believe.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 20:08:26
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hey rat patrol did you have any conflicts with your X79 wireless and soundblaster Z mine works great if I turn off the wireless but if on it gets a garbled crystilized sound for an instant. when I turn off the wifi in the bios it doesnt occur. I have a very similar set up to yours asus X79 deluxe EVGA 770 SC with ACX, Sound blaster Z in the PCIe_1 #2, I7 4930K at 4.5 GhZ, 16 gbs 1600 ghZ corsair
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/10 23:22:16
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Are you guys with the temp issues running your power % as priority if so that may be the issue too you need to run your temp as priority you should see much better temps I know it effects my cards temps alot.
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Re: ACX hair dryer for gamers
2014/01/12 07:39:18
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d.burnette
I wonder why the ACX noise seems to be so prevalent on the 780 cards?
I have the GTX 770 FTW w/ ACX, and it is very quiet for me.
I think a large part may be subjective? What one person thinks is loud another person might not even notice?
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