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I recently swapped out CPUs going from an 8700k to and 9900k and my temperatures have increased substantially. From my research I've read mixed reviews on the 9900k temperature wise, some being cooler than an 8700K and some being hotter. I figured I'd end up with relative temperatures but unfortunately that's not the case. I ran Prime95 26.6 (no AVX) for just a few minutes and get temperatures in the upper 80s (I think I may have seen a 90C in there before I ended the test). My 8700k previously never went above mid to high 60s low 70s. I ran prime95 29.4 (with AVX) for less than a minute and saw temps skyrocket to 100C on the 9900K and I instantly ended the test. My 8700K was previously around mid to upper 70s. In gaming Shadow of the Tomb Raider, and Battlefield V I'm seeing temperatures that are roughly 10C higher than with my previous CPU. For example in Battlefield V 64 player conquest I saw 74C with the 9900k but previously saw 65C with my 8700K. Both CPUs idle around the same temp. Around 30C to 31C with the lowest temps recorded at 28C to 29C using hardware monitor. I'm wondering if this is normal, have others seen this, etc? Or, is there a chance I didn't apply the thermal paste very well? I used Kryonaut and did the pea method. And, no overclocks on either CPU mentioned above. Current specs are below. Thanks Fractal Design Meshify C EVGA Z390 FTW 9900K Fractal Design Celsius S24 Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200mghz 32GB (4 8BG sticks installed) EVGA RTX 2070 Samsung 970 Evo 500GB (OS installed here) Samsung 970 Evo 1TB (game drive) EVGA G3 SuperNOVA 1000W Windows 10 Pro
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 14:36:11
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If you used a pea-sized drop, that would be too much, and too much is not good, can be just a bad as too little..In their Quick Start Guide, Thermal Grizzly recommends spreading thermal grease/paste very thinly and evenly to cover the entire IHS. If you haven't yet, clear CMOS and try again..Also make sure you have the latest BIOS for your board (1.08 as of now) from the EVGA Download Center installed..There is a BETA BIOS too that "Improves stability with Intel Coffee Lake-S i9 processors" you might want to try. Might be interesting to know what the Vcore (CPU Voltage) is getting up to under load. People report that those CPUs do tend to run a little on the hotter side.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 15:57:16
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Some of the EVGA MB's run some pretty aggressive voltages, here's a thread: https://forums.evga.com/i99900KS-Z390-Dark-and-High-Voltages-m3004225.aspx More info from HWiNFO64 would be helpful, such as clock speed, voltages, and especially package power. On my MSI board and 9900K, on stock settings I get about 140w cpu package power, 1.192V Vcore, 4.7 ghz all cores running non-avx Prime95 and about 40C over idle after a couple minutes, that's on a CLC120 with push pull fans.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 16:02:08
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If you used a pea-sized drop, that would be too much, and too much is not good, can be just a bad as too little..In their Quick Start Guide, Thermal Grizzly recommends spreading thermal grease/paste very thinly and evenly to cover the entire IHS.
If you haven't yet, clear CMOS and try again..Also make sure you have the latest BIOS for your board (1.08 as of now) from the EVGA Download Center installed..There is a BETA BIOS too that "Improves stability with Intel Coffee Lake-S i9 processors" you might want to try.
Might be interesting to know what the Vcore (CPU Voltage) is getting up to under load.
People report that those CPUs do tend to run a little on the hotter side.
I called it the pea method but it was probably in between a "dot" and "pea" in size. Either way I could of put too much or not applied it right in general. I've used Thermal Grizzle in the past and haven't had much luck trying to spread it out thinly over the entire IHS like they recommend. I've gotten roughly the same temps in previous builds using either method. But, I have no problem trying to reapply it if need be. I also have some Nactua NT-H1 I could try as well. Truth be told both of my thermal pastes have been sitting in my garage/storage unit for about a year. They were both opened in the past and used but closed back up in their original packaging if that matters any. Think this could matter? I thought thermal past had a longer shelf life once opened. When I installed the new CPU I booted everything, loaded a few games, and the flashed a new BIOS just to clear everything out. I do have the 1.08 version, but haven't tried the BETA BIOS. I should of posted the Vcore before. In game I saw roughly 1.224 I've read these CPUs run a little hotter but 10 degrees C in games is more than a little no?
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 16:13:45
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Some of the EVGA MB's run some pretty aggressive voltages, here's a thread:
https://forums.evga.com/i99900KS-Z390-Dark-and-High-Voltages-m3004225.aspx
More info from HWiNFO64 would be helpful, such as clock speed, voltages, and especially package power. On my MSI board and 9900K, on stock settings I get about 140w cpu package power, 1.192V Vcore, 4.7 ghz all cores running non-avx Prime95 and about 40C over idle after a couple minutes, that's on a CLC120 with push pull fans.
Stock clocks but basically 4.7 to sometimes 4.8 as the max in HWinfo. Max package power for Battlefield V 64 player conquest was 124.54W with max CPU temp at 74C
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 17:43:58
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Some of the EVGA MB's run some pretty aggressive voltages, here's a thread:
https://forums.evga.com/i99900KS-Z390-Dark-and-High-Voltages-m3004225.aspx
More info from HWiNFO64 would be helpful, such as clock speed, voltages, and especially package power. On my MSI board and 9900K, on stock settings I get about 140w cpu package power, 1.192V Vcore, 4.7 ghz all cores running non-avx Prime95 and about 40C over idle after a couple minutes, that's on a CLC120 with push pull fans.
Stock clocks but basically 4.7 to sometimes 4.8 as the max in HWinfo. Max package power for Battlefield V 64 player conquest was 124.54W with max CPU temp at 74C
Seems a little toasty, if I'm thinking that's a intermittent load for a sustained period of time. Can you please run non-AVX prime95 smallest FFT for 10 minutes and post the following: - Ambient temp - Idle temp at start of test - CPU package temp while running after 10 minutes - CPU Package Power while running after 10 minutes - Core clocks while running after 10 minutes - Vcore while running after 10 minutes - Fan speed (radiator) and pump percent while running - Fan model and config I just ran it for 10 minutes, 18C ambient, about 25C idle, 68C package/max core temp, 142w, 1.208V, 4.7ghz, 2000rpm push pull Noctua A12 intake, max pump. CLC120 (single 120mm rad). Right after stopping the test it drops to 36C. Paste is MX-4 applied about 6 months ago, I think I put a thin layer on then a rice sized dot.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 18:30:37
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Some of the EVGA MB's run some pretty aggressive voltages, here's a thread:
https://forums.evga.com/i99900KS-Z390-Dark-and-High-Voltages-m3004225.aspx
More info from HWiNFO64 would be helpful, such as clock speed, voltages, and especially package power. On my MSI board and 9900K, on stock settings I get about 140w cpu package power, 1.192V Vcore, 4.7 ghz all cores running non-avx Prime95 and about 40C over idle after a couple minutes, that's on a CLC120 with push pull fans.
Stock clocks but basically 4.7 to sometimes 4.8 as the max in HWinfo. Max package power for Battlefield V 64 player conquest was 124.54W with max CPU temp at 74C
Seems a little toasty, if I'm thinking that's a intermittent load for a sustained period of time. Can you please run non-AVX prime95 smallest FFT for 10 minutes and post the following:
- Ambient temp
- Idle temp at start of test
- CPU package temp while running after 10 minutes
- CPU Package Power while running after 10 minutes
- Core clocks while running after 10 minutes
- Vcore while running after 10 minutes
- Fan speed (radiator) and pump percent while running
- Fan model and config
I just ran it for 10 minutes, 18C ambient, about 25C idle, 68C package/max core temp, 142w, 1.208V, 4.7ghz, 2000rpm push pull Noctua A12 intake, max pump. CLC120 (single 120mm rad). Right after stopping the test it drops to 36C.
Paste is MX-4 applied about 6 months ago, I think I put a thin layer on then a rice sized dot.
Only ran prime95 26.6 (no AVX) it for 3 minutes because it got up to 84C and I didn't want to keep going. - Ambient temp 24C - Idle temp at start of test 30-31C (lowest temps in HWinfo 28-29C) - CPU package temp while running after 10 minutes (only ran for 3 minutes) package temp 84C, hottest core 84C, coolest core 76C. As I mentioned only ran for 3 minutes but seems like a fairly big gap between hottest and coolest core - CPU Package Power while running after 10 minutes (ran for 3 minutes) 158.9W package power - Core clocks while running after 10 minutes 4.7 stock clocks - Vcore while running after 10 minutes (ran for 3 minutes) 1.208 - Fan speed (radiator) and pump percent while running 100% - Fan model and config Top mounted Fractal S24 AIO with Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-12 PWM at 2000RPM (the fans that come with the radiator) as exhaust. Case exhaust one Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-12 at 1100 RPM. Case intake two Fractal Venturi HF-14 at 1200 RPM (100%). Meshify C case Seems like yours runs a lot cooler than mine and even others I've seen online. Think my thermal paste is old and/or applied poorly?
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 20:00:36
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Only ran prime95 26.6 (no AVX) it for 3 minutes because it got up to 84C and I didn't want to keep going.
- Ambient temp 24C
- Idle temp at start of test 30-31C (lowest temps in HWinfo 28-29C)
- CPU package temp while running after 10 minutes (only ran for 3 minutes) package temp 84C, hottest core 84C, coolest core 76C. As I mentioned only ran for 3 minutes but seems like a fairly big gap between hottest and coolest core
- CPU Package Power while running after 10 minutes (ran for 3 minutes) 158.9W package power
- Core clocks while running after 10 minutes 4.7 stock clocks
- Vcore while running after 10 minutes (ran for 3 minutes) 1.208
- Fan speed (radiator) and pump percent while running 100%
- Fan model and config Top mounted Fractal S24 AIO with Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-12 PWM at 2000RPM (the fans that come with the radiator) as exhaust. Case exhaust one Fractal Design Dynamic X2 GP-12 at 1100 RPM. Case intake two Fractal Venturi HF-14 at 1200 RPM (100%). Meshify C case
Seems like yours runs a lot cooler than mine and even others I've seen online. Think my thermal paste is old and/or applied poorly?
Hey thanks, I've been told I've got a fairly optimized setup for a 120mm rad. Add 5-6C to mine to compare because of the ambient room temp difference. Testing at 142w vs. 159w is very significant. Having the dual A12 high pressure/radiator optimized fans in push pull means I get about 7-9C lower than a single normal rad fan. Intake air helps too, but not at the expense of cooling your GPU with free flowing front intake fans. Seems like you've got a good cooler, nice fans, nice case and conventional setup. Maybe add a pair of rad fans for push pull. https://www.fractal-desig...g/celsius-s24-2/black/ Couldn't get mine to run at 160w, but was able to do 187w running smallest FFT and AVX2 disabled. After 3 minutes it gets to about 82C. Running full avx at 208w max sends it to 87C after a few minutes. Probably pull the block and repaste, just to make sure you're getting full coverage. I'd try spreading a very thin even layer on both the chip and block if you're worried the paste is a little thick/dry. Overall it doesn't seem like you're running too much out of the ordinary, but I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the paste had 70-80% coverage.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/17 21:08:15
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I did the exact same upgrade in CPU using an EVGA CLC 280 AiO cooler on both, and yes, the 9900K definitely runs hotter under load. I had/have both clocked at 5GHz. The highest I've seen my 9900K is right on 80, and that's under sustained full load on all cores (rendering) for a few hours. That was the CPU temp - the individual cores were probably fluctuating higher, but I didn't look. From past experience, individual core temps on some cores may have fluctuated up to 90 momentarily. I just ran Prime95 now (blend mode) to get a better comparison for you since that's what you used. After a few minutes, 9900K CPU temp settled around a peak of 65, although when I looked at individual core temps, some fluctuated as high as 75 for very short periods. I would redo your paste for sure, might have got a bubble in there. Also check your AiO cooler to make sure the pump is actually ticking over and there's no leaks or air bubbles trapped inside the heatsink part. Ambient temp ~25C btw, set on our apartment thermostat. I used Arctic MX-4 (2019 edition) paste, using the pea method.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/18 11:18:30
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I'll try redoing my paste spreading a thing layer this Saturday when I have more time. Since no one as said anything I take it there isn't an issue with my "older" thermal past that has been sitting in my garage/storage unit for about a year? It was opened and used a year ago and then I closed it, put it back in it original packaging, etc. I have no problem getting more if need be, just not sure of the shelf life of this stuff.
From the two posts above it seems to me something is wrong with my paste/application or the CPU itself. As I mentioned I'm getting 100C in Prime95 with AVX and 84C in Prime95 no AVX. Both tests were not that long either and seems others are getting nothing hotter than 87C with AVX and 75C no AVX.
Maybe I'm looking at HWinfo wrong? I'm posting the max temp recorded and not an average or settled temp. When playing games there are peaks in the 70s as I mentioned but overall regular ops temps are a little bit cooler (50s and 60s maybe I'd have to check again). Just seems to me we're not talking about a few degrees hotter here. I would assume with a good AIO and fan setup similar to mine a 9900k shouldn't hit TjMax in Prime95 with AVX or am I wrong?
I also checked my AIO and everything appears to be working normal.
I have the ability to return the CPU and try another one as a last resort. I'm not there yet, but if anyone has thoughts on that I'd apprentice it too. Thanks
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/18 12:33:23
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You should definitely check your paste. If it's not fully spread and covering the CPU, take a flat edged plastic spreader and spread it out, then add a rice sized dot. Mostly tighten down the block then put hand pressure on it and make a circular motion, that will spread out the paste and force out any air, then fully tighten. The temps I'm posting for Prime95 are the peak/settled figures after a certain amount of time, with a constant 100% load. Gaming I can't recall ever really going over 50C, usually it's 35C to 45C. But I'm gaming at 4K60. I'm curious why your chip pulls 160w while mine pulls 142w. Maybe try a more generic CPU stress like CPU-Z or Passmark? Most people casually talking about testing with prime95 on the internet DO NOT have AVX enabled or they have a significant AVX offset in the bios. So about 100w-160w range. It's really hard to compare without a power draw being cited. Also note that in the higher power tests I posted above, the temps were continuing to climb, I just stopped the test after 3 minutes to provide a comparison. Here's a good test with a 8700 and a 20C water chiller based cooling system where they test the different Prime95 power levels - they get 87C steady state with AVX at 172w. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/stress-test-cpu-pc-guide,5461-2.html
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/19 06:38:15
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As everyone's saying, check your paste and I'd also make sure you have good contact while mounting your AIO. Always tighten down the opposite end screw and only tighten them a turn or two before moving on to the next one. That way the plate gradually sits onto the CPU & you get the best contact points across the entire face.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/19 18:57:57
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I’ll check/redo my paste on Saturday when I have more time. I’ll try the two different pastes I have and then consider ordering new paste if my older two don’t have good results. After that maybe consider returning the CPU for another one.
But, in the mean time what temps should I see when running the stress test in CPU-Z?
I’m not sure if I ran it correctly. I ran it for maybe 5 minutes or so the ended the test. Saw peak temps of 76C and a package temp of 76C. Thoughts on that?
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/19 21:41:40
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I’ll check/redo my paste on Saturday when I have more time. I’ll try the two different pastes I have and then consider ordering new paste if my older two don’t have good results. After that maybe consider returning the CPU for another one.
But, in the mean time what temps should I see when running the stress test in CPU-Z?
I’m not sure if I ran it correctly. I ran it for maybe 5 minutes or so the ended the test. Saw peak temps of 76C and a package temp of 76C. Thoughts on that?
Guess it depends on power level, but I get about 112w and 62C temps after 5 minutes. Same parameters as previously posted, though the fans are at 1800rpm-ish. As far as I know there are no settings to the cpu-z stress test, it just hits 100% load all cores with whatever it's doing. I've got version 1.86.0 btw.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/21 17:55:10
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Redid the thermal paste, spread a thin layer of kryonaut, etc. Idle temperatures were about 2 degrees lower with the lowest temp in HWinfo recorded at 27c in two different cores. However, after running Prime95 26.6 (no AVX) for about 5 minutes I saw the highest temps between 84 and 85C at a package power of 160W. Which is the same as before temperature wise just took a little longer to get there. I ran Prime95 29.4 (with AVX) I saw a temperature of 99 after a few minutes and then stopped the test. The package power was 225W. As I said before this is all at stock clocks and the highest vcore was 1.224 All recorded in HWinfo with an ambient temperature of 24.5C (76F) I’m trying to figure out if this is normal for a 9900K or if I should return it and get another one. Appreciate and thoughts and tips.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/21 19:19:28
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Well that was interesting. The version of Prime95 I was using was from 2015, so I downloaded the latest v29.8 and ran the blend torture test first - pretty much same result as earlier with CPU at 63 this time, and individual cores from 67 to 75 (I did not disable AVX2 or change anything else, just went straight to torture test and ran blend). Running the Small FFT torture test (supposedly the maximum power/heat/CPU stress test) was something else entirely... CPU peak was 89 and didn't go any higher, with individual cores running from 85 and a couple fluctuating up to 100 momentarily. CPU Package hit 100, no higher. CPU package power settled at about 220W. VCore was around 1.146 to 1.154, but I saw it spike once up to 1.19 for a split second. I believe the CPU might throttle at 100.. specs here shows T Junction as 100. So.. perhaps your CPU is running normally. Or mine isn't ..lol. Real world use is not going to hammer it like that. I ran a rendering recently that had all 8 cores on max load for 4 hours and no problems - the peak temperature was 80. Hope that helps. I had CPU on spec clocks btw, ambient 78 tonight (thermostat cranked up a bit as it's cold outside).
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/22 04:53:30
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VCore was around 1.46 to 1.54, but I saw it spike once up to 1.9 for a split second.
That's awful high..Depending on what CPU voltage mode you're using, get it down as far as posible by either lowering the Vcore Offset, lowering the Turbo Voltage, or lowering the Vcore, and/or lowering the Load-Line Calibration..LLC is what will determine the Vcore under load..AI Suite is good for dialing it in.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/22 07:31:07
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VCore was around 1.46 to 1.54, but I saw it spike once up to 1.9 for a split second.
That's awful high..Depending on what CPU voltage mode you're using, get it down as far as posible by either lowering the Vcore Offset, lowering the Turbo Voltage, or lowering the Vcore, and/or lowering the Load-Line Calibration..LLC is what will determine the Vcore under load..AI Suite is good for dialing it in.
LOL oops! That was a typo. That should say "VCore was around 1.146 to 1.154, but I saw it spike once up to 1.19 for a split second." ..edited previous post. :D
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/22 09:36:07
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VCore was around 1.46 to 1.54, but I saw it spike once up to 1.9 for a split second.
That's awful high..Depending on what CPU voltage mode you're using, get it down as far as posible by either lowering the Vcore Offset, lowering the Turbo Voltage, or lowering the Vcore, and/or lowering the Load-Line Calibration..LLC is what will determine the Vcore under load..AI Suite is good for dialing it in.
LOL oops! That was a typo. That should say "VCore was around 1.146 to 1.154, but I saw it spike once up to 1.19 for a split second." ..edited previous post. :D
That's more better..Heheh.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/22 09:52:02
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Redid the thermal paste, spread a thin layer of kryonaut, etc. Idle temperatures were about 2 degrees lower with the lowest temp in HWinfo recorded at 27c in two different cores.
However, after running Prime95 26.6 (no AVX) for about 5 minutes I saw the highest temps between 84 and 85C at a package power of 160W. Which is the same as before temperature wise just took a little longer to get there.
I ran Prime95 29.4 (with AVX) I saw a temperature of 99 after a few minutes and then stopped the test. The package power was 225W.
As I said before this is all at stock clocks and the highest vcore was 1.224
All recorded in HWinfo with an ambient temperature of 24.5C (76F)
I’m trying to figure out if this is normal for a 9900K or if I should return it and get another one.
Appreciate and thoughts and tips.
I went back and found the thread from where I put in my CLC120 5 months ago. I was running the Intel prime stress test with the GPU out of the machine which was giving me 80C at 168w with the fans and pump maxed after extended time, in a sealed room with AC unit running at 68F (20C). Given that you're at 24.5C ambient and have the AIO rad with single sided fans (push?) exhausting, it sounds like you're right in the ballpark with the performance of your cooler. I'd say you could stand to add an extra pair of fans for push pull on the rad, should drop it by a good 5C or so. Is your GPU idling at a low power state (300mhz) or at high power (1350ish)? Still don't know why your chip pulls more power, though there's a large variation in motherboards even at supposedly stock settings. I have mine set to totally stock clocks/boost auto everything, speed step disabled (5ghz idle) on a basic Z390 msi edge ac. What power are you pulling on the CPU-Z stress test and which version number?
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 09:39:22
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Well that was interesting. The version of Prime95 I was using was from 2015, so I downloaded the latest v29.8 and ran the blend torture test first - pretty much same result as earlier with CPU at 63 this time, and individual cores from 67 to 75 (I did not disable AVX2 or change anything else, just went straight to torture test and ran blend).
Running the Small FFT torture test (supposedly the maximum power/heat/CPU stress test) was something else entirely... CPU peak was 89 and didn't go any higher, with individual cores running from 85 and a couple fluctuating up to 100 momentarily. CPU Package hit 100, no higher. CPU package power settled at about 220W. VCore was around 1.146 to 1.154, but I saw it spike once up to 1.19 for a split second.
I believe the CPU might throttle at 100.. specs here shows T Junction as 100.
So.. perhaps your CPU is running normally. Or mine isn't ..lol. Real world use is not going to hammer it like that. I ran a rendering recently that had all 8 cores on max load for 4 hours and no problems - the peak temperature was 80.
Hope that helps. I had CPU on spec clocks btw, ambient 78 tonight (thermostat cranked up a bit as it's cold outside).
This seems a little off to me and I want to make sure we're looking at the same numbers. I downloaded Prime95 v29.8 just as you did and ran a blend test (with AVX) for probably 5 minutes or a little more. I saw the highest core temperature reach 71C (lowest core temp was 63C), package temp of 70C, package power 130.27W, vcore at 1.206, cpu vcore 1.240, fans never went above 85%. Again this was just a blend test and used CUPID HWMonitor to view the temps. When you say CPU at 63 is this your package temp and individual cores from 67 to 75 is the highest and lowest core? Seems off to me that your package temp if that's the 63 you were mentioning is lower than all your cores, but I'm guessing I'm misunderstanding something. What program are you using to view your temperatures? I also ran a Prime95 v29.8 Small FFT (not smallest) with AVX for just a few minutes and I think I saw similar numbers to you. CPU package temp 99C, highest core temp 99C (lowest 86C but I didn't run the test that long), power package 229.84W, vcore 1.206, cpu vcore 1.224, fans were at 100% In the one game of Battlefield V 64 player conquest I tested I saw higher temps. cpu package 78C (previous saw 73C) highest core 80C (previous 73C) power package 131.22W (previous 124.54W) cpu vcore 1.232 (previous 1.224) vcore 1.206 (previous 1.206) 85% to 100% fan speed (previous fans were lower between 70% to 85%) I'm not exactly sure what to think now. At stock clocks seeing temps as high as 80C in Battlefield V seems awfully high to me. It seems to me I have a really hot CPU since I'm not seeing others post temps in the 80s wile playing Battlefield V. Since I just got this 9900K is there a chance the binning has gotten a lot worse with the 9900KS taking all the average to above average ones? Right now I'm leaning towards returning this CPU and trying another one unless I can find some info that says these are normal temps...
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 10:16:11
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Now I'm curious what kind of performance you're getting out of this chip. Would you mind running a passmark CPU test or some sort of other common muli-thread benchmark?
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 11:09:46
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This is all very interesting, but I read a lot of 'stock clocks'.
Would it be too much to ask if the actual clocks were posted? That way, everyone knows what everyone is talking about, with no doubts.
Thanks
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 11:26:59
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Now I'm curious what kind of performance you're getting out of this chip. Would you mind running a passmark CPU test or some sort of other common muli-thread benchmark?
I can do that. I've never used passmark before, is there a specific version I should use and/or a specific test you want me to do? I'd be willing to try other multi-thread benchmarks too, I just don't know which other ones to do. passmark.com has BurnInTest 9.0 and PerformanceTest 9.0 Which one should I download?
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 11:31:45
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This is all very interesting, but I read a lot of 'stock clocks'.
Would it be too much to ask if the actual clocks were posted? That way, everyone knows what everyone is talking about, with no doubts.
Thanks
Not a problem, all cores at 4,690 MHz to 4,692 MHz in HWMonitor on the last few tests I've done. MSI afterburner overlay shows 4,700 MHz in Battlefield V. Stock clocks
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 11:55:43
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I just ran UserBenchmark with these results. Stock CPU clocks, Stock GPU clocks, Rapid mode activated on the Samsung 850 Evo UserBenchmarks: Game 113%, Desk 154%, Work 139% CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K - 102.2% GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 107.8% SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 286.4% SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 341.5% SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 1,007.8% SSD: Intel 510 Series 120GB - 54.3% RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 4x8GB - 103.4% MBD: EVGA Z390 FTW I know this might not mean much but I can run the other tests, just let me know which specifically to run.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 12:17:17
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This is all very interesting, but I read a lot of 'stock clocks'.
Would it be too much to ask if the actual clocks were posted? That way, everyone knows what everyone is talking about, with no doubts.
Thanks
Not a problem, all cores at 4,690 MHz to 4,692 MHz in HWMonitor on the last few tests I've done. MSI afterburner overlay shows 4,700 MHz in Battlefield V. Stock clocks
Thanks. This is what I meant. 'Stock' (base clock) for a 9900K is 3600MHz. Try Passmark Performance Test, Cinebench R15 and R20, Realbench 2.56 benchmark. I find that HWMonitor has always been lacking. HWiNFO is much better.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 16:17:04
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Hey i darli328
I just ran UserBenchmark with these results. Stock CPU clocks, Stock GPU clocks, Rapid mode activated on the Samsung 850 Evo
UserBenchmarks: Game 113%, Desk 154%, Work 139%
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K - 102.2%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 107.8%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 286.4%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 341.5%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 1,007.8%
SSD: Intel 510 Series 120GB - 54.3%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 4x8GB - 103.4%
MBD: EVGA Z390 FTW
I know this might not mean much but I can run the other tests, just let me know which specifically to run.
Hey looks good, I just ran the same and got cpu 104%, though I have potato 2666CL16 memory that scores only 83.8%, I don't know how ram dependent their cpu test is. Just ran the Passmark CPU Mark test, got 20910 overall, 3015 single thread. Peak of 134w and 65C from a cold start. Download and global results below: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-9900K+%40+3.60GHz&id=3334https://www.passmark.com/...mancetest/download.php If you have 3DMark the stock 9900K with mid range memory should do about 11,000 in the normal Timespy CPU test.
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/23 21:26:57
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Hey i darli328
I just ran UserBenchmark with these results. Stock CPU clocks, Stock GPU clocks, Rapid mode activated on the Samsung 850 Evo
UserBenchmarks: Game 113%, Desk 154%, Work 139%
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K - 102.2%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 107.8%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 286.4%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 341.5%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 1,007.8%
SSD: Intel 510 Series 120GB - 54.3%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 4x8GB - 103.4%
MBD: EVGA Z390 FTW
I know this might not mean much but I can run the other tests, just let me know which specifically to run.
Hey looks good, I just ran the same and got cpu 104%, though I have potato 2666CL16 memory that scores only 83.8%, I don't know how ram dependent their cpu test is.
Just ran the Passmark CPU Mark test, got 20910 overall, 3015 single thread. Peak of 134w and 65C from a cold start. Download and global results below:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-9900K+%40+3.60GHz&id=3334
https://www.passmark.com/...mancetest/download.php
If you have 3DMark the stock 9900K with mid range memory should do about 11,000 in the normal Timespy CPU test.
Ran PassMark PreformnceTest 9.0 Overall score 21750, CPU single threaded 2870, 132.84w power package, CPU hottest core 72C (lowest 66C), CPU package 70C. Ran my fans at 100% for the test. When I ran the test the first time my fans only went to 85% and I saw a CPU temp of 75C. Right now it seems my scores are pretty comparable, but my temps are a good margin hotter which doesn't seem normal... What did you say you're using as your CPU cooler? I am still using HWmonitor What about PassMark BurnInTest? Is that not worth running? I'll download OCCT, Cinebench, RealBench if anyone wants to compare temperatures and cooling
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Re: 9900k tempatures stock 240 AIO
2019/12/24 05:09:41
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Hey i darli328
I just ran UserBenchmark with these results. Stock CPU clocks, Stock GPU clocks, Rapid mode activated on the Samsung 850 Evo
UserBenchmarks: Game 113%, Desk 154%, Work 139%
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K - 102.2%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 107.8%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 286.4%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 341.5%
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500GB - 1,007.8%
SSD: Intel 510 Series 120GB - 54.3%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 4x8GB - 103.4%
MBD: EVGA Z390 FTW
I know this might not mean much but I can run the other tests, just let me know which specifically to run.
Hey looks good, I just ran the same and got cpu 104%, though I have potato 2666CL16 memory that scores only 83.8%, I don't know how ram dependent their cpu test is.
Just ran the Passmark CPU Mark test, got 20910 overall, 3015 single thread. Peak of 134w and 65C from a cold start. Download and global results below:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-9900K+%40+3.60GHz&id=3334
https://www.passmark.com/...mancetest/download.php
If you have 3DMark the stock 9900K with mid range memory should do about 11,000 in the normal Timespy CPU test.
Ran PassMark PreformnceTest 9.0 Overall score 21750, CPU single threaded 2870, 132.84w power package, CPU hottest core 72C (lowest 66C), CPU package 70C.
Ran my fans at 100% for the test. When I ran the test the first time my fans only went to 85% and I saw a CPU temp of 75C.
Right now it seems my scores are pretty comparable, but my temps are a good margin hotter which doesn't seem normal... What did you say you're using as your CPU cooler?
I am still using HWmonitor
What about PassMark BurnInTest? Is that not worth running?
I'll download OCCT, Cinebench, RealBench if anyone wants to compare temperatures and cooling
While I do not have an AIO, I am always interesting in seeing what systems with the same CPU will do. Would it be possible to see some screenshots? Preferably with monitoring software running alongside the benchmark. I personally would use HWiNFO, as it provides the most information. Thanks
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