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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/11 12:05:02 (permalink)
Man. How often you guys doing all that? So when you prep it all.. you get to run for how long? One session and then need to clean it all up afterwards?

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/11 12:09:55 (permalink)
It is all part of Hard Core Overclocking.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/11 14:57:40 (permalink)
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Man. How often you guys doing all that? So when you prep it all.. you get to run for how long? One session and then need to clean it all up afterwards?


Depends. Items like KP Inferno socket heater really really help to keep condensation from forming to begin with. That limits the Amount of overall board wet-ness after a session. Also depends on the time between bench sessions and how long the Vaseline has been in place. It can collect crap over time and could potentially retain metals so you do need to clean and re-prep after a while.

You can limit the Vas from gather crap by using Serran wrap and placing it in a container.

With DICE: you usually don't get too much frosting of the board overall compared to LN2. Usually any condensation that does form won't have an easy Ingress point inbetween layers of the PCB or sockets. LN2 can frost over a much large part of the board/GPU.

With a board and DICE....I usually can get up to about 5-8 sessions before I'll clean it completely. I tend to use contact cleaner in the sockets before every session and re-apply Vaseline where needed.

With GPU's....I actually tend to completely clean them after a DICE or LN2 session. Reason being they'll be used cold 2-3 times at most and then done. Usually you'll figure out from the 1st good session where the card stands. Bad sessions like incomplete Condensation proofing/insulation....you'll be shutting down quickly. Maybe you can go again in 30min to an hour. If not, it's a tear down, check the mounting of the POT. See where you went wrong. Then clean it up and go at it fresh again another day.

Sometimes you need 2-3 sessions to really figure out a card or CPU. Experience is a huge factor here.

When you have the tools for complete board cleaning...it's a faster turn around. If all you have is hot water and EC spray cleaners...might be 4-5 days before you should try again. Not drying it out completely is a good way to kill stuff.

If running a chiller near 0 ambient (32F) you typically don't have socket/gpu area frosting. Stuffing the immediate area with blue shop towel is typically all you need. Keep the air out and basically it's just the block that forms condensation you need to worry about. The Dies themselves will be around the dew point or just above.
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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/11 15:22:59 (permalink)
Heh I guess it be great to have a friend that does this all the time and you can take your stuff over their and show ya the ropes and use his cleaning tools! Lol

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/12 01:50:07 (permalink)
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Man. How often you guys doing all that? So when you prep it all.. you get to run for how long? One session and then need to clean it all up afterwards?

Usually same hardware used for benching for many days/weeks, as getting system maxed out is not few hour task. Just like your KPE experiments, even with simple system and just AIO you saw how much fiddling needed to get good score. Add different temperatures, much wider voltage ranges, requirement to finetune your CPU, DRAM, OS, driver settings, benchmark tweaks - you easily can spend a month playing with stuff just to get one best score. So thinking like "grease one board, run it for a day, then clean it and put into 24/7 gaming rig afterwards" is not realistic. 
Some of boards that Vince bench at lab still have grease and crap on them years after :)

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/12 08:07:20 (permalink)
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Man. How often you guys doing all that? So when you prep it all.. you get to run for how long? One session and then need to clean it all up afterwards?

Usually same hardware used for benching for many days/weeks, as getting system maxed out is not few hour task. Just like your KPE experiments, even with simple system and just AIO you saw how much fiddling needed to get good score. Add different temperatures, much wider voltage ranges, requirement to finetune your CPU, DRAM, OS, driver settings, benchmark tweaks - you easily can spend a month playing with stuff just to get one best score. So thinking like "grease one board, run it for a day, then clean it and put into 24/7 gaming rig afterwards" is not realistic. 
Some of boards that Vince bench at lab still have grease and crap on them years after :)


Well that sounds alot better then thinking when the day is over and you shut the system down, you'll need to tear it all apart and clean it and re prep it again before the next run as everyone else made it sound.

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Re: Issue with Flashing XOC VBIOS 2019/05/13 22:03:38 (permalink)
I broke down and ordered the G92 bracket. Had to do it... directly from EK

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