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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/06 10:25:06
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CptT95
I got a new version of Classified from Vince that works with stock HC bios now, also found out that the one XOC bios with 1K limit is the only one they are making for it
hopefully my issues before are from classified not working well with the card and now new version will work :)
3.1.7 is the version I have now
Hey, would you mind sharing the new 3.1.7 version? I have the old 3.1.4. Could you check the 520W BIOS version you got with the 3090 KPE HC? Go to GPU-Z, Advanced tab then NVIDIA BIOS. Wonder if the HC comes with a new BIOS version. Regular KPE AIO is 94.02.42.00.0F. Thank you
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/06 20:44:03
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this is LN2 BIOS stock with Rebar
Version 94.02.42.C0.0C
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 11:20:23
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Trying to figure out how to plumb this sli up with dual water blocks and back plate blocks with a 3 space 1 open space between the cards mp5 back plate cooler parallel block no way to get fittings on it going to try and find some short 90's the ek 90's are to tall. and non of the ek fittings fit on the top right fitting back plate is to close with out a extension fitting or a 90 or 45 and those just rub the back plate. Any one got any suggestions for fittings. I'm going to do hard line between them and use a piece of hard line to the base of the case as a support leave it empty or if i can figure out a elegant way to use it in the loop i will try and do that first.
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 17:59:36
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Trying to figure out how to plumb this sli up with dual water blocks and back plate blocks with a 3 space 1 open space between the cards mp5 back plate cooler parallel block no way to get fittings on it going to try and find some short 90's the ek 90's are to tall. and non of the ek fittings fit on the top right fitting back plate is to close with out a extension fitting or a 90 or 45 and those just rub the back plate. Any one got any suggestions for fittings. I'm going to do hard line between them and use a piece of hard line to the base of the case as a support leave it empty or if i can figure out a elegant way to use it in the loop i will try and do that first.
Yeeeeep that right top port fitting not working with EK fittings ruined my initial loop layout preference, which is why mine looks kinda weird. Still irritated about it myself. Why are EA so bad at everything having to do with Origin? ME Legendary Edition update & it's downloading so slow it's ridiculous... and it's not just me, someone with internet 4x as fast as mine is having the same issue, EA's servers are so bogged down they must be severely limiting everyone's download speeds, which is ridiculous. If you're going to have a GAME PROVIDING service you should have servers that can HANDLE said load when you put out a freakin' update. Oye vey. Spent hours fighting with Origin just to get it to launch properly & stop crashing from trying to verify games that it's already verified 10 times. Ended up removing them so Origin can't see the two it was trying to "fix" that aren't "broken" anymore because I bought them through Steam, so I can just launch them through Steam & such anyway - Mass Effect Andromeda & Dragon Age Inquisition, both of which I bought through Steam on sale, even though I get them free through EA Play Pro, because I wanted to show specific support for those titles so hopefully EA gets the freakin' message & releases games people actually LIKE instead of regurgitated online pay-box dribble. 5.85GB update that would normally take me less than two hours to download has been downloading long enough that I finished an entire movie (that was almost two hours long) and it's only at 2.38/5.85 done. Ugh. I must want to finish Mass Effect 1 so I can get to the games that are actually enjoyable gameplay wise & not just plot wise (ME1 is great plot wise but the combat gameplay is garb in comparison to the other 3 games).
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 18:40:27
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Ordered the new Barrow with back cooler. Last ali order took 15 days so lets see on this one.
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 20:18:32
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Yeah... I hate that top right one... Look at what I had to do: https://i.imgur.com/oqBHKuT.jpgOk now it look almost on purpose... But wasn't 😜 Also does anyone know about the fan header from the card (kphc)??? I cannot figure out how to have it not at 100%
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 20:41:57
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I wouldnt worry about support if you use the EVGA block and backplate
once installed, the whole case will move when you try to wiggle the card lol, its a sturdy piece of hardware
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 20:43:34
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I actually used a straight piece of hard tube to support the card... Just because the thing is a beast... Power wise... And weight wise. Not sure if necessary tho...
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 20:44:42
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Yeah... I hate that top right one... Look at what I had to do: https://i.imgur.com/oqBHKuT.jpg
Ok now it look almost on purpose... But wasn't 😜
Also does anyone know about the fan header from the card (kphc)??? I cannot figure out how to have it not at 100%
its in the EVGA X1 software iirc DZelmer
Trying to figure out how to plumb this sli up with dual water blocks and back plate blocks with a 3 space 1 open space between the cards mp5 back plate cooler parallel block no way to get fittings on it going to try and find some short 90's the ek 90's are to tall. and non of the ek fittings fit on the top right fitting back plate is to close with out a extension fitting or a 90 or 45 and those just rub the back plate. Any one got any suggestions for fittings. I'm going to do hard line between them and use a piece of hard line to the base of the case as a support leave it empty or if i can figure out a elegant way to use it in the loop i will try and do that first.
my previous post was referring to this lol
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 20:47:20
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Yes I did setup the fan curve in X1... But it doesn't affect the fan speed
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 20:49:54
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why do you have a fan connected to the GPU? that takes power from the GPU itself, thereby costing you frames -_-
best to use a powered fan controller or mobo header
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 21:26:50
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I have a controller, I am just picking the signal from it. The power draw is from a data power cable 😜
And I have some room, not reaching 520W, at least yet
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 21:58:41
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Yes I did setup the fan curve in X1... But it doesn't affect the fan speed
in px1 make sure auto is checked next to the fan curves !!! i made the same mistake and it that isn't it uninstall px1 del files for it restart and reinstall and it should work. Edit: fan curve control It should say auto on the main page under fan control after that. also make sure your wire for the signal is good if not fans run at 100% Dose the LN2 bios disable fan control or is that only the 1000W bios?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/07 23:24:57
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CptT95
I wouldnt worry about support if you use the EVGA block and backplate
once installed, the whole case will move when you try to wiggle the card lol, its a sturdy piece of hardware
Can you send me bios and new classified tool please? Thanks
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 09:56:47
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does anyone have the dimensions of the mp5works block.
I think that I may have found a significantly cheaper alternative, but need to know the length and width of the mp5works block.
Thanks,
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 14:17:43
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Feel your pain @Badger #GermanAutoLife.. Just had my Merc service B a few weeks ago, and now it’s asking for new brakes lol. I’m usually a DIY’er, but I don’t touch vehicles because of safety/warranty concerns
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 16:50:05
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So for those looking for the dimensions of the mp5works:
Cold plate: 14x6 cm
Acrylic (whole block): 15.5x7 cm
Height: 1.2cm
Metric FTW 🤣
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 18:07:11
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Those of you who need mp5 clips, cant they be 3d printed?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 18:29:11
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so i want to make my gpu junction memory temp lower can i put the heatsink on the back-plate cover? i got a 3090 ftw3 xc and just installed the hybrid cooler. but my junction memory temp is high im using mining to test the temp. right now its at 98c-100c
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 18:49:00
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Unless you're on LN2, there's no reason to yeet voltages in classified tool. The extra wattage/heat is just gonna lower your avg clockspeed which affect your final score. Every chip needs different NVVDD/MSVDD combinations to match internal clocks with requested clocks. It's all about efficiency (wattage/score). Here's my 1.025v voltage point using the 520W BIOS - 2220MHz +1350 Mem Max temp: 47C. 1.150v NVVDD LLC6 1.075v MSVDD LLC1 1.40v FBVDD 600kHz on both If I remember correctly. Wattage peak: 524W
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1064089
is this with a hydrocopper kp 3090? Or hybrid
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 18:50:52
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so i want to make my gpu junction memory temp lower can i put the heatsink on the back-plate cover? i got a 3090 ftw3 xc and just installed the hybrid cooler. but my junction memory temp is high im using mining to test the temp. right now its at 98c-100c
Is it an FTW3 or XC3? What does the backplate look like, standard ish like this:  Either way, the answer should be yes, you can just thermal tape some heatsinks to the backplate near the GPU die/VRAM areas & it will help. My initial testing was done with just that & nothing else, look in the first post of this thread. It was very basic/small heatsinks on the VRAM areas of the backplate & it still made a noticeable drop in VRAM temps, albeit this was while gaming, but it should still help with mining too.
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/08 19:29:23
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Well I am actually wondering... I need to put my mp5works... I was lacking fitting... Due to laziness. Currently have nothing on my backplate... And the memory run at 48C while mining at 120mh.s-1 for more than 8h already (or I didn't look at the right sensor)... I have the KPHC.
To note I have a 420 rad dedicated for it, and as I am still lazy (yes there is a pattern here)... My fan header pick the signal from the card. And I have an issue where I run 3 fan on the rad and the pump at 100%... Ok the fan are 140 furious Vardar from EK... so they push some air like nobody's business... But I don't see those 80C and above reported... What am I missing?
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/09 00:26:15
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richard203
so i want to make my gpu junction memory temp lower can i put the heatsink on the back-plate cover? i got a 3090 ftw3 xc and just installed the hybrid cooler. but my junction memory temp is high im using mining to test the temp. right now its at 98c-100c
Is it an FTW3 or XC3? What does the backplate look like, standard ish like this:
Either way, the answer should be yes, you can just thermal tape some heatsinks to the backplate near the GPU die/VRAM areas & it will help. My initial testing was done with just that & nothing else, look in the first post of this thread. It was very basic/small heatsinks on the VRAM areas of the backplate & it still made a noticeable drop in VRAM temps, albeit this was while gaming, but it should still help with mining too.
its a ftw3, yes the back plate is almost like that. did you replace the thermal pads on the heatsink with better ones or you just used the ones that come with the heatsink? for the 3090 fan is it blowing air out or blowing air in? want to ask this because i have a bottom fan blowing air into the gpu fan
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/09 12:51:25
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Well I am actually wondering... I need to put my mp5works... I was lacking fitting... Due to laziness. Currently have nothing on my backplate... And the memory run at 48C while mining at 120mh.s-1 for more than 8h already (or I didn't look at the right sensor)... I have the KPHC.
To note I have a 420 rad dedicated for it, and as I am still lazy (yes there is a pattern here)... My fan header pick the signal from the card. And I have an issue where I run 3 fan on the rad and the pump at 100%... Ok the fan are 140 furious Vardar from EK... so they push some air like nobody's business... But I don't see those 80C and above reported... What am I missing?
you need to look at junction temp not mem 1 2 or 3 temp with nothing on the backplate its more than likely 90+ while mining I use hwinfo64 but it crashes my corsair commander pro every time i open it to check temps.
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/09 17:21:37
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Fayalite
... What am I missing?
you need to look at junction temp not mem 1 2 or 3 temp with nothing on the backplate its more than likely 90+ while mining
I use hwinfo64 but it crashes my corsair commander pro every time i open it to check temps.
Hum had to wait after work to check... Yeah junction is a bit higher, for now I just added a 140 fan with some space on the backplate... And temp is at 80C... Didn't check without it, but must help. Thanks makes me feel a bit dumb hehe.
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Re: 3090 (Kingpin) - Get that backside VRAM cool! Also: Thermal Pad size (backplate side)?
2021/06/09 18:10:16
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its a ftw3, yes the back plate is almost like that. did you replace the thermal pads on the heatsink with better ones or you just used the ones that come with the heatsink? for the 3090 fan is it blowing air out or blowing air in? want to ask this because i have a bottom fan blowing air into the gpu fan
Initially all I had was thermal taped heatsinks on top of the backplate with a fan blowing over them. I did more "modifications" later. Just the heatsinks with tape will help. Anything additional you do after that will help even more. I went from just the heatsinks with a fan, to redoing thermal pads, to adding more thermal pads in other heat producing areas & additional heatsinks, then I went full bonkers using thermal past to secure most of the heatsinks to the backplate, with 12.8W/mK pads between the VRAM & the backplate. The fan is blowing down on to the heatsinks, but from what I've seen either method should work (sucking air off of them or blowing air over them). Kind of depends on your case's airflow setup which would work better. For me, blowing down on to the heatsinks works best because my top radiator is setup as intake, so it's intaking air through the PE 360 & then the fan is blowing that over the heatsinks.
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