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2021/06/21 22:36:45 (permalink)
Do these things normally sound like a space shuttle taking off in every game at 4k? I have the aggressive fan curve set in precision x1, great airflow in my case and temps usually dont go any higher than 71-72C at full game load, 28-32C at idle....I'm loving the performance, but damn, this thing is by far the loudest gpu I've ever had when it comes to fan noise at speeds higher than 70%. Very immersion breaking. The 2080Ti xc ultra I had before this was nowhere near this loud at 4k,,,, for only having 2 fans the temps and noise level were always great. I'm just kind of stumped as to why and what to do about it. Almost thinking about trading for another quieter 3080Ti,,,,I love almost everything about this one, but I HATE the noise.
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    andross182
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/21 23:40:14 (permalink)
    You went from a 250w TDP dual fan card to a 320-450w 3080...did you really not know what you were getting in to?
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/21 23:45:51 (permalink)
    You have the power to change the fan curve to silent or your own custom curve in Precision X1. You'd rather get an entirely new GPU instead of spending a few minutes in PX1? 
     
    There is always the option to go with a waterblock :)


     
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 00:44:37 (permalink)
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    You went from a 250w TDP dual fan card to a 320-450w 3080...did you really not know what you were getting in to?
    **** man, I guess not....that aside, I just figured the newest tech meant better on all aspects including the jet engine sound from a custom fan curve to keep the bastard from getting too hot. I was hoping the extra fan meant better cooling with less noise. For the most part it does well at the cooling, it's just loud and annoying af....much more than I expected I guess......its not like there is really a way to test drive these things first before buying them. I may just end up putting my pc in the refrigerator so it stays cool and I dont have to hear it.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 00:59:54 (permalink)
    It could be because the GDDR6X is way too hot. If the fans are abnormally high, but the core is at a reasonable temperature, it's because the memory modules are too hot and the card is trying desperately to cool them.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 01:02:10 (permalink)
    Kokin
    You have the power to change the fan curve to silent or your own custom curve in Precision X1. You'd rather get an entirely new GPU instead of spending a few minutes in PX1? 
     
    There is always the option to go with a waterblock :)
    Yes I could put it in silent, but wouldn't that make my temps go through the roof while 4k gaming? and px1 is what I used to set the aggressive fan curve,,,,otherwise any other fan curve setting makes the temps get too high for my liking. Also, although I agree waterblocks make GPU's run cooler, I just dont care for the look, otherwise I probably would have got the 3080ti ftw3 hybrid or hydro copper,,whatever that one is called. Like I said in posting, I really like everything about the GPU, just not the insane loudness of the fans after about 70% speed. That mixed with the coil whine rn is just stupid annoying....although my 2080ti had coil whine for about a month and once it was broke in, went away as it usually does in most cases.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 01:09:22 (permalink)
    mercIE
    It could be because the GDDR6X is way too hot. If the fans are abnormally high, but the core is at a reasonable temperature, it's because the memory modules are too hot and the card is trying desperately to cool them.
    I'm pretty sure that was an issue mainly with the 3090 with half the memory overheating due to placement,and that it didn't affect any other 30xx,....I think I recall that gamer nexus guy doing a video on it.... but I could be wrong; I am by no means an expert on this subject....however, I would think more people would be reporting that issue on the founders edition vs one with better cooling fan setup. Just a haunch.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 01:24:40 (permalink)
    Can you provide what is RPM of your fans what you perceive as noisy. I am using normal bios and card is silent, probably more silent than case fans. Also, what is your ambient temperature, mine was recently 29C which is scorching hot here.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 02:40:17 (permalink)
    If you check out the different AIB card reviews, they tend to run hotter than the FTW3 because they run at lower fan speeds. The 3080Ti FTW3 is really meant to be watercooled when it's dumping 350-400W+ of heat into your system. Even the hybrid kit is decent enough. 
     
    Regarding "after about 70% speed"... that's just gonna be expected to be stupid loud. Most 3 fan coolers are quiet between 35-50%, but anything past that and those tiny fans get real whiny. I'm not sure if my 3070 FTW3 is the same exact cooler (seems like it though), but 70% is already hitting 2000-2100RPM. 


     
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 06:46:06 (permalink)
    Fact of the matter is on an air cooled card if you want to keep it as cool as what you are reporting that is the price you will pay is in sound.  If you want to lower the sound to a bearable level temps will increase and the card will have to tone it down a bit so you will lose some performance.  The 30 series cards are power hungry and with boosting algorithms they want to hang out at 80 C so you gaming at 72 C is already good.  The card isn't going to run so hot that it hurts itself if you lower the aggressiveness of the fan curve.  It will simply drop clocks to keep the temps from getting out of control.
     
    These are basic laws of physics you are working against here.  The only other option as given above is to WC the card.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 08:40:19 (permalink)
    Stubbies
    Fact of the matter is on an air cooled card if you want to keep it as cool as what you are reporting that is the price you will pay is in sound.  If you want to lower the sound to a bearable level temps will increase and the card will have to tone it down a bit so you will lose some performance.  The 30 series cards are power hungry and with boosting algorithms they want to hang out at 80 C so you gaming at 72 C is already good.  The card isn't going to run so hot that it hurts itself if you lower the aggressiveness of the fan curve.  It will simply drop clocks to keep the temps from getting out of control.
     
    These are basic laws of physics you are working against here.  The only other option as given above is to WC the card.
    Makes sense I suppose....when there is alot of action going on in certain games, its unnoticeable....its during the quieter exploration scenes that it sounds like it's taking flight. Thanks for the input.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 08:43:30 (permalink)
    if you want to game in 4K without a lot of fan noise, you're looking at either running long cables to another room so you can put the PC in there...or watercooling the PC with 3 radiators or maybe 1 giant external radiator. guess it just depends on your house and/or budget
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 08:47:24 (permalink)
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    Can you provide what is RPM of your fans what you perceive as noisy. I am using normal bios and card is silent, probably more silent than case fans. Also, what is your ambient temperature, mine was recently 29C which is scorching hot here.
    Well when the gpu hits 70C the fan is set to be at 90%....if that helps any. And we have central air that's usually set at about 72-74F, so it's pretty decent inside on those hot days. I honestly plan on just keeping the gpu because I really like it.....I've just been spoiled by having much quieter fans in the past.....I'll just have to try and get used to it I suppose.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 08:47:30 (permalink)
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    You went from a 250w TDP dual fan card to a 320-450w 3080...did you really not know what you were getting in to?

    What a useless comment. Even more useless than this useless comment.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 08:49:17 (permalink)
    I have to believe you need to improve the airflow in your case or need a new one. My 3080 FTW3 has never topped 70C and the highest I’ve ever had to adjust fans to is 50%. I have the Cooler Master SL600M case with two 200mm bottom fans at 800rpm.

    Sorry, just realized you have the 3080 Ti.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 08:54:18 (permalink)
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    You went from a 250w TDP dual fan card to a 320-450w 3080...did you really not know what you were getting in to?
    **** man, I guess not....that aside, I just figured the newest tech meant better on all aspects including the jet engine sound from a custom fan curve to keep the bastard from getting too hot. I was hoping the extra fan meant better cooling with less noise. For the most part it does well at the cooling, it's just loud and annoying af....much more than I expected I guess......its not like there is really a way to test drive these things first before buying them. I may just end up putting my pc in the refrigerator so it stays cool and I dont have to hear it.



    Unfortunately not, these cards didnt drastically change in size from the 2080ti generation and they threw another 100-200w at the same size air cooler, hence the higher temps and faster fan speeds which is the noise you are hearing.  I game with a headset so I don't notice it but my 3080ti hybrid fans (and 3080 hybrid when I had it) hit 2500 RPM and are quite loud to keep the card under 60c.  Once my time in the HC queue is done I will be going with a full custom loop with 2x 360 rads to try to tame sound but for now, the headset suffices.  
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 09:06:38 (permalink)
    Headphones FTW! lol But in all seriousness though, mine doesn't get all that loud. Perhaps match my case fans sound at the most...
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 09:12:21 (permalink)
    What you can do and what I do a lot on my easier to run games is use a program like px1 to under power the card. Tell it to target a lower temp and to cut power. This will let you run cooler and the cost of max performance.

    These 3000 cards are night and day from the 1000 series when it comes to power draw and apparently the memory chips are just as bad, so I have a feeling I will be fine tuning a lot to keep noise and heat levels satisfactory when I get my 3070ti.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 09:13:17 (permalink)
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    Well when the gpu hits 70C the fan is set to be at 90%.



    90% is extreme, 2500 RPM or so, 3080 (ti) from all manufacturers  are often designed to run at 1700RPM-1800RPM at full load to provide more silent operation trading some performance. Temperature should not be an issue because chip can run high temperatures, memory too. You can test performance with high and default speed fan settings in Port Royal benchmark and then games to observe performance penalty, and it is small percentages of penalty.
    Longevity should not be an issue, I exhumated 9800GTX 15 years old which was always running very hot years, and it works without any issues even now and repasting is not even required.
     
    If you require silent operation and low temperature with the highest performance, you can consider liquid cooled variants.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 09:18:33 (permalink)
    I agree with you OP that Ampere runs hotter and louder than Pascal (and Turing). That's just the nature of the new architecture though.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 09:27:37 (permalink)
    I'm really hoping to score the 3080 ti hybrids in my notifies before the aircooled one. I'm running the 3070 ti ftw3 and yeah this card  got loud when I tested Cyberpunk on it. It's worth it though. I'd rather have a loud card than a weak performance card any day.

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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 09:42:47 (permalink)
    yes 30 series GPU put out more heat ...
     
    space shuttle ?  no not even close to a vacuum cleaner or even a hair dryer ....
     
    AS you have already mentioned not wanting to go hybrid or custom water cooled my suggestions:
     
    1) Change the location of your case - especially if it is on your desk ... distance is your friend, even a few feet
    2) Try keeping all 3 fans at the same speed RPM
    3) manually control fans & test different RPM to see if any harmonics are amplifying the sound
    4) Colder room temps ... after all the GPU temp is relevant to ambient temp ... crank the AC down
    5) case fan upgrade ... higher pressure & CFM ... number of intake vs exhaust fans ...
    6) case upgrade
     
     
    suggest you edit your first post & add your hardware list to it ... it would help
     

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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 10:26:46 (permalink)
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    I'm pretty sure that was an issue mainly with the 3090 with half the memory overheating due to placement,and that it didn't affect any other 30xx,....I think I recall that gamer nexus guy doing a video on it.... but I could be wrong; I am by no means an expert on this subject....however, I would think more people would be reporting that issue on the founders edition vs one with better cooling fan setup. Just a haunch.



    Not mainly the 3090s, it was an issue with GDDR6X, it runs hot. So if the memory cooling pads are sub par or wrongly sized, the chips will run very hot and the card will ramp the fans up to cool them.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 21:08:45 (permalink)
    it is air cooled and gpus get really hot so it needs loads of air flow. it kinda seems logical. also you could have looked at some review vids or comments before you got it.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 21:14:33 (permalink)
    I thought the same thing when I got the 3080 ftw3 ultra.  I can say that installing the hybrid kit made it run WAY quieter and would recommend that when they come out with it for your 3080ti since you have the air cooled version.  It's also worth noting that it's far easier to keep these cards cool than it is to let them get hot and then cool them down, meaning that setting an aggressive curve at lower temperatures will keep the card cooler at lower fan speeds than a curve that lets it get hot and then tries to cool it down.  It will be louder when you boot up the game but will stay quieter while you're playing.  For instance, before I load up a game, I have my fans set to 70% across all temps, and while I'm playing the temps stay lower with quieter fans than they did when I started them at 50% and had them ramp up more.
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    Re: 3080 Ti ftw3 ultra fan noise unbearable. 2021/06/22 21:28:36 (permalink)
    Can’t you change the fan curve? Was looking to get into the notify queue for 3080 ti might reconsider
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