kongfra


 
Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 
 
 
Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.
 
 
I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?
 
I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?
 
 
Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.
 
 

KingEngineRevUp

kongfra


 
Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 
 
 
Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.
 
 
I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?
 
I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?
 
 
Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.
 
 

I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.

kongfra

KingEngineRevUp

kongfra



Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 


Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.


I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?

I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?


Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.

I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.

 
 
Here is my score at power 100 - graphic 19385
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64726626 
 
and score with power 105
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140  graphic 19 233
 
 
 

kram36

Gato84
I received my 3080 TI XC3 Gaming, and I have some questions.
 
1) What tests should I run to see if my card actually come with the power cap?
 
2) What temps do you consider are normal/fine for this card (air cooling one)? Do you recommend me to change thermal pads or something to improve cooling? (not WC)
 
3) Do you guys purchased 3Dmark from Steam (29.99) to run the Time Spy benchmark? Is it worth it? Is it not free anymore?
 
Thanks.

Go into your motherboard bios, turn off Fast Boot and CSM. Download and install the latest Precision X1, run it so it will update your card on the first use of PX1. If you don't get an update then go to the Re-Bar section and check to see what bios is on the card. If you have the 12G-P5-3953-KR card the bios number should look like this.
 

 
 EDIT: Time Spy is free to run, you just can't turn off the demo. Download 3DMark from here, you will need an account to download it.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/settings/download/3dmark.zip/

kraade
The Logo is the only light 

Gato84
Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).
 
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?
 
I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84
Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.

It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84
Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.

It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.

Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?
 
I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84
Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.

It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.

Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?

I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.

In X1, the power slider shows 100. Should I use it as 105 (max)? Is it even safe to modify it to 105? (the GPU temp is automatically moved to 91)

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84
Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.

It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.

Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?

I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.

In X1, the power slider shows 100. Should I use it as 105 (max)? Is it even safe to modify it to 105? (the GPU temp is automatically moved to 91)

Yes, it’s perfectly safe to do so. The power and temp sliders are locked together unless you unlock them. All it does is allow the card to draw more power which means a bit more heat, so that fan curve you adjusted will work well. You aren’t using any custom BIOS or physically modifying the card, so you’re still operating within the designed power limit since it won’t allow you to go beyond 105%. You’ll notice a small improvement in Time Spy by adjusting the power limit, but you won’t see a huge increase unless you overclock.

Ok. Thank you for the help. I have one more question. Would you recommend undervolting to lower the temp (after maxing out the power slider)? Should I use MSI AB to do so? Because I do not know how to do it with X1.

EVGATech_LeeM

ObscureEmpyre
Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.

Just a reminder that physical damage will void your warranty.  Overclocking, on the other hand, will not.

ObscureEmpyre

Gato84

EVGATech_LeeM

ObscureEmpyre
Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.

Just a reminder that physical damage will void your warranty.  Overclocking, on the other hand, will not.

Sorry, I did not get it what does it means. Which one of the two (undervolting or overclocking) could void my warranty if the GPU get damaged? And which one is safest to perform without voiding my warranty in case something fails?

Neither will void your warranty if you’re using X1 especially, and AB typically has the same features as X1 with regard to overclocking and undervolting. I believe Lee was talking about something like shunt modding which would physically alter your card, potentially damaging it in the process.

gregcoss

ObscureEmpyre
I believe Lee was talking about something like shunt modding which would physically alter your card, potentially damaging it in the process.

I think Lee might have been making a joke about "castrating" your card. That would do some physical damage.