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So it seems when i said in earlier posts and threads the best i could get was 2130 for my core clock when running sli 2080ti kingpins. It seems that the card i had in the top slot was staying at 2130 even when i raised or lowered the slider in px1. See attached photo's. Both cards being tested individually show different clocks when using the same settings in px1. The card showing 2130 even when i adjust the slider in px1 higher or lower the clock always stays the same at 2130 after running the tests. For example the slider could be at +130 or +110 and the final test result shows as 2130 core clock in both tests. The other card doing the same thing +130 = 2175 clock in the tests and +140 shows 2190 in the tests and +120 shows 2160 in the tests. The card that is staying at 2130 is the same card when i first got it was staying at the 300mhz and showing 800 watts in px1. Now its looking like this card is defective and not boosting like its supposed to. I also reflashed the bios to see if it would make a difference and it didn't.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 18:45:30
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2055 is default so you look to be well above the curve at default.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 18:47:15
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One good and one average most likely.. all cards boost differently.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 18:54:03
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One good and one average most likely.. all cards boost differently.
Yes but the point is the card won't adjust like its supposed to. Yes cards boost different but they are still supposed to change when you change the clock speed.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
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Are we flashing the bios and expecting to get any sort of rma..?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 19:02:38
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Are we flashing the bios and expecting to get any sort of rma..?
Why would reflashing the bios with the bios evga provides to flash the card with void an rma?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 19:22:00
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Have you test each card on it's own yet?
Sounds like my FTW3 Cards with one being Great and the other well not so good.
The not so good card takes down the Great card in SLI to the level of the not so good card.
EVGA said that's Silicon Lottery, but each card performed within the Specs so I am stuck as you now seem to be.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 19:27:00
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Have you test each card on it's own yet?
Sounds like my FTW3 Cards with one being Great and the other well not so good.
The not so good card takes down the Great card in SLI to the level of the not so good card.
EVGA said that's Silicon Lottery, but each card performed within the Specs so I am stuck as you now seem to be.
I can see a card being lower performance then another card yes, but the card should still adjust up and down when the slider is moved, if its staying at 2130 even when it should lower itself that different then not being able to go higher. thats like letting of the gas pedal of your car and it won't slow down when its supposed to. Yes in the original post it says each one tested individually.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 19:35:04
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Is that not how SLI is suppose to work when no monitor is connected to the second card?
You are running PX1 As an administrator?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/04 19:40:06
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Is that not how SLI is suppose to work when no monitor is connected to the second card?
You are running PX1 As an administrator?
Yes PX1 as admin. But running a single card would be nothing to do with SLI for this problem. The card does this when its by itself and in SLI.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 04:47:33
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2055 is default so you look to be well above the curve at default.
If i put the slider to 0 for core clock its showing at 2010 though not 2055.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:07:53
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I have figured out how to get it above 2130 but this card requires more voltage then the other card does at all settings, this card is always 45 core clock below the other card at all identical settings because this card at default is only 2010 instead of 2055 like the good card is. Both cards run the memory at +1390 2098 with no issues at all.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:21:17
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I have figured out how to get it above 2130 but this card requires more voltage then the other card does at all settings, this card is always 45 core clock below the other card at all identical settings because this card at default is only 2010 instead of 2055 like the good card is. Both cards run the memory at +1390 2098 with no issues at all.
I would just return it, my fe gets higher core clocks than that for £800 less
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:29:29
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I have figured out how to get it above 2130 but this card requires more voltage then the other card does at all settings, this card is always 45 core clock below the other card at all identical settings because this card at default is only 2010 instead of 2055 like the good card is. Both cards run the memory at +1390 2098 with no issues at all.
I would just return it, my fe gets higher core clocks than that for £800 less
Yeah i just submitted a ticket to tech support. I love the cards but if +0 is 2010 it seems to me the card is not within default specs.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:34:21
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Maybe use the dim switch on the back of the card to add +25mv GPU voltage to the card that needs more voltage?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
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I have figured out how to get it above 2130 but this card requires more voltage then the other card does at all settings, this card is always 45 core clock below the other card at all identical settings because this card at default is only 2010 instead of 2055 like the good card is. Both cards run the memory at +1390 2098 with no issues at all.
I would just return it, my fe gets higher core clocks than that for £800 less
Yeah i just submitted a ticket to tech support. I love the cards but if +0 is 2010 it seems to me the card is not within default specs.
I just got my second card and can't even keep it stable above 2145mhz in sli under 40c which is ridiculous.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
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I have figured out how to get it above 2130 but this card requires more voltage then the other card does at all settings, this card is always 45 core clock below the other card at all identical settings because this card at default is only 2010 instead of 2055 like the good card is. Both cards run the memory at +1390 2098 with no issues at all.
I would just return it, my fe gets higher core clocks than that for £800 less
Yeah i just submitted a ticket to tech support. I love the cards but if +0 is 2010 it seems to me the card is not within default specs.
I just got my second card and can't even keep it stable above 2145mhz in sli under 40c which is ridiculous.
The best i could do in SLI was the 2130 but then it seems to be that the one card was holding back the other card. Now that i have figured out the difference in the 2 cards if i single them out i can get 2190 with no problem in the better card but still 2130 about tops with the other less then spectacular card. The tale of 2 cards.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:39:13
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You guys can verify forsure which card right? Remember how it is usually the cards are flipped in px1/ab in which card 2 is really card 1. Is that still going on?
Can you change the fan speed or turn them off for a test to make sure your looking at the right card that's slow?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:40:22
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You guys can verify forsure which card right? Remember how it is usually the cards are flipped in px1/ab in which card 2 is really card 1. Is that still going on?
Can you change the fan speed or turn them off for a test to make sure your looking at the right card that's slow?
Yeah the newest card I got is the **** one and it's being returned straight away, I didn't pay this much for 2080 ti fe performance
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:41:38
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You guys can verify forsure which card right? Remember how it is usually the cards are flipped in px1/ab in which card 2 is really card 1. Is that still going on?
Can you change the fan speed or turn them off for a test to make sure your looking at the right card that's slow?
When they are singled out the guessing game went away as far as which card.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:43:34
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Maybe use the dim switch on the back of the card to add +25mv GPU voltage to the card that needs more voltage?
Thats not going to do anything to help a card that is default at 2010 instead of 2055.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:50:07
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Maybe use the dim switch on the back of the card to add +25mv GPU voltage to the card that needs more voltage?
Thats not going to do anything to help a card that is default at 2010 instead of 2055.
Thought maybe the low voltage on the card was preventing it from the next higher bin. Maybe loadline settings would also help if it has more droop then the other card. Theirs dim switches on the back of the card for that as well. Just thinking that maybe that's one contributing factor in the difference of a good card and a bad card is the voltage.. unless every card that comes off the assembly line is identical and run at exactly the same idle and load voltage at default? Atleast try the loadline setting on the bad card. Not real sure what the do as it's just level 1 and level 2. Would it equate to rising the droop in 1 and 2 steps? Cant hurt to try it.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 08:57:08
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Maybe use the dim switch on the back of the card to add +25mv GPU voltage to the card that needs more voltage?
Thats not going to do anything to help a card that is default at 2010 instead of 2055.
Thought maybe the low voltage on the card was preventing it from the next higher bin. Maybe loadline settings would also help if it has more droop then the other card.
Theirs dim switches on the back of the card for that as well.
Just thinking that maybe that's one contributing factor in the difference of a good card and a bad card is the voltage.. unless every card that comes off the assembly line is identical and run at exactly the same idle and load voltage at default?
Atleast try the loadline setting on the bad card. Not real sure what the do as it's just level 1 and level 2. Would it equate to rising the droop in 1 and 2 steps? Cant hurt to try it.
Yeah but the dim switches shouldn't need to be messed with. I have no problems getting the voltage needed via the classified tool for what i'm doing its just with the one card it seems to need more voltage to do less then the other card by far.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 09:10:24
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Hook a dmm to the cards on the GPU voltage and take a reading at idle and load. Can be as easy as that to get a clear picture as what the real voltages are doing differently on ea card at defaults.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 09:16:44
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Gota be a real pain with 2 cards as we need to find ea cards sweet spot alone. Now ya got to find a perfect sweet spot for ea card that works great together.
Yeah I know, you feel that one card is bad or whatever clocking in a 2040 and not 2055 at stock.
I'm sure evga will point to the specs that claim 1770mhz boost clock so it's doing above that.
Nothing saying you cant return though.
Maybe it's just the software that puts more power on the 1 card when both are installed?
Have you ever tried flipping the card order to see how they clock in the different order?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 09:25:24
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Gota be a real pain with 2 cards as we need to find ea cards sweet spot alone. Now ya got to find a perfect sweet spot for ea card that works great together.
Yeah I know, you feel that one card is bad or whatever clocking in a 2040 and not 2055 at stock.
I'm sure evga will point to the specs that claim 1770mhz boost clock so it's doing above that.
Nothing saying you cant return though.
Maybe it's just the software that puts more power on the 1 card when both are installed?
Have you ever tried flipping the card order to see how they clock in the different order?
Yes and when the 2 cards are close together in specs its not so bad, but these are far enough apart that i would have to run both cards at different voltages in classified tool and both cards at different settings in PX1 as well. I have never had to do that before. I'll see what the response is from EVGA tech support, they have always treated me fair in the past when i have needed support.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 11:14:32
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dwexpress ya 2010 is low. Wonder how many cards shipped like that? and also what percentage 2055 lands at.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 13:02:42
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2055 is default so you look to be well above the curve at default.
If i put the slider to 0 for core clock its showing at 2010 though not 2055.
The advertised minimum default Boost Clock is 1700 MHz. Where are you finding 2050 MHz as the advertised default/expected/minimum/whatever boost clock?
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 13:04:12
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2055 is default so you look to be well above the curve at default.
If i put the slider to 0 for core clock its showing at 2010 though not 2055.
The advertised minimum default Boost Clock is 1700 MHz. Where are you finding 2050 MHz as the advertised default/expected/minimum/whatever boost clock?
He's saying that because most cards boost to that by default.
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Re: 2080ti Kingpin Stays at 2130
2019/05/05 19:16:40
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2055 is default so you look to be well above the curve at default.
If i put the slider to 0 for core clock its showing at 2010 though not 2055.
The advertised minimum default Boost Clock is 1700 MHz. Where are you finding 2050 MHz as the advertised default/expected/minimum/whatever boost clock?
He's saying that because most cards boost to that by default.
Not his apparently. I think EVGA will say that its performing as advertised.
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