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I recently got my 1080Ti FTW3 card and it's stock performance has been great with UHD gaming. I came from two 1080 FTW's and while I miss the SLI performance I got, they just ran WAY too hot in a 0 space SLI configuration. I did have a problem with the new card where it seemed that it was more sensitive to high speed HDMI cables, because my display would not stop flickering to a black screen with the new GPU until I bought a brand new certified HDMI cable. My previous 1080 FTW's never really had that problem in 4k/60p/deep color. ANYWAY, I decided to see how my new GPU fared with overclocking. I was new to overclocking current generation video cards so I looked up some guidance for Precision XOC. I started by switching my bios to the secondary mode which gave me a higher power cap. After many runs experimenting in Superposition's 4k Benchmark I've come to the conclusion my card will not stably run with anything over +50 on the core clock boost slider. This seems way lower than the standard "overclock in your sleep" +150 that most people use as a starting point. My GPU will get to around 59-60 degrees under max load with Superposition (way lower than the ridiculous temps I saw with my 1st Gen FTW's!) so my GPU Boost 3.0 will drop a step or two, but thats about it. Applying around +50(ish) core clock combined with pushing the voltage slider up a little bit will allow me to hover around 2025Mhz clock at load, but any higher clock speed than that for any length of time and Superposition crashes, or black screens, or even causes my HDMI cable to lose sync (more on that later). Bottom line, does a max +50ish clock / 2025Mhz max stable boost seem normal, or is something up? Here are some scores and performance metrics:    Here by bumping the voltage slider, I could maintain boost clocks a little longer and my score went a little higher. Messed with the memory a little too. 
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/27 16:45:21
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These things are already overclocked high enough to get close to 2000mhz. Which is pretty good.
My first FTW3 only allowed +20 on the core. Anything higher would be unstable in Battlefield 1. That brought me to around ~2000mhz exactly. Not great but honestly... 2100mhz wouldn't be much different at all in games.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/27 16:49:51
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These things are already overclocked high enough to get close to 2000mhz. Which is pretty good.
My first FTW3 only allowed +20 on the core. Anything higher would be unstable in Battlefield 1. That brought me to around ~2000mhz exactly. Not great but honestly... 2100mhz wouldn't be much different at all in games.
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Thanks, looks like the images I uploaded while composing the post timed out and purged themselves? Fixed! Also thanks for your comment.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/27 17:29:55
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/28 00:12:58
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Same here with my new FTW3.. Anything more than +50 and I get instability exactly as you destribe. The memory offset will only take +200 stable also. At +250 and I get random black screens - I backed that to 150 though just to be safe. I got my power limit at 127 and target set to the "temp limit" (90c) and voltage set to 100%. My card sits pegged at the voltage limit "1" pretty much constantly. I get 2025 max clock but that throttles back... Games run around 2ghz (between 2012 and 1987) and I am running 4k all the way. My instability issues were exactly as you reported yours, black screen and sometimes the HDMI handshake would need to be re-initiated to get my display back. I have gone through a couple 1080ti's before this card and this one is the best clocker but by a small margin but it's BY FAR the coolest running card of all of them.. I haven't see anything past 62c with the fan curve built into XOC which is so mild I can't hear the fans over my case fans. So my temps are very good for air. I had hoped for better core clocks but oh well. This FTW3 generally oozes of quality - I am happy with it. I cracked 9849 on Superposition optimized 4k. Seems about right for my system and 24/7 running speed.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/28 05:55:41
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After reading the forums here and over at overclock.net it appears the anything over 2Ghz is golden and about the ave. I have been sitting on 2 ftw3's for a couple of weeks waiting for gpu blocks from ekwb to install a custom loop for these bad boys as well as the cpu. I am looking forward in seeing what kind of oc's I can get on water. and what im going to get in game play in sli. I havnt seen to many folks over on the show us your cards putting up info yet. folks are still waiting for the cards. thanks for the information guys.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/28 10:07:15
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Lottery.
Also, your starting point is different, so +50 doesn't mean much. Why? I have a lower clocked 1080 Ti FE, and I put +112 on it....to get it to my normal gaming OC of 2000MHz.
The 1080 Ti maxes out at around 2050 to 2064MHz. Some lucky folks have chips that can reach 2100MHz, but they are the golden samples. Some folks have chips that can't get past 1950MHz. Them's the breaks in the game of the silicon lottery. In your case, you broke average (which, when you think about it is actually quite good considering the STOCK boost levels of these cards).
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/28 13:05:40
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My SC2 won't get anywhere near stable at 2000MHz
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/28 14:38:44
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Lottery.
Also, your starting point is different, so +50 doesn't mean much. Why? I have a lower clocked 1080 Ti FE, and I put +112 on it....to get it to my normal gaming OC of 2000MHz.
The 1080 Ti maxes out at around 2050 to 2064MHz. Some lucky folks have chips that can reach 2100MHz, but they are the golden samples. Some folks have chips that can't get past 1950MHz. Them's the breaks in the game of the silicon lottery. In your case, you broke average (which, when you think about it is actually quite good considering the STOCK boost levels of these cards).
^This. The FTW3 stock comes with an overclock of +89 compared to a FE before you even touched anything. You added +50 to that.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 07:19:44
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Its all lottery regardless of manufacturer, got mine to 2050 stable, 55 on the gpu offset 127 on PL and no volts (volts cause instability at least for me)...once she warms up drops to 2038. I'm perfectly fine with that :) besides the diff in FPS between 2000 and 2100 is like 1 frame, so anything over 2ghz is fluff...these cards are cool quiet beasts out of the box. One good thing is the mem oc on this card I hit lotto on as she clocks +800 stable (but I run it at +750) Superposition of 10254 4k optimized. to me anything over 2000ghz is icing. but I know how we still strive for higher, its human nature. I was guilty of chasing the 2075-2100 Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious magical setting.. lol but then I said to myself just enjoy the card. 
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 09:17:48
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It seems a lot of performance comes from a memory OC on these cards. The higher benchmarks that seem out of reach to some will never be obtained with only a high core clock anyway. Most cards seem to do about 2000-2062 on the core. The memory seems to have much more variation which is understandable seeing how there are 11 memory chips and all of them need to be up to the task. I see a lot of people only getting +200-300. Then others getting into the +800 range which is good for a substantial bump in benchmark performance. My card seems to sit around the middle. The core tops out at around 2050 and the memory about +550. Makes you wonder if only 1 of those memory chips could be holding you back from doing a heavy OC. Would be nice to be able to disable them 1 by 1. I'll take 8GB at +1000 for now. 
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 09:49:16
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Makes you wonder if only 1 of those memory chips could be holding you back from doing a heavy OC. Would be nice to be able to disable them 1 by 1. I'll take 8GB at +1000 for now.
Then you'd lose around ~27%(3/11) of your bandwidth as 3 memory controllers would be inactive every stride.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 10:28:04
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True but the idea would be cool, like PCIE disable jumpers or something. Maybe it's only 1 holding you back, and maybe then the clock offset would make up for the bandwidth deficiency.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 11:45:30
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True but the idea would be cool, like PCIE disable jumpers or something. Maybe it's only 1 holding you back, and maybe then the clock offset would make up for the bandwidth deficiency.
More likely that you'd break even, at best.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 15:13:55
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TIME TO POST MY RESULTS I recently purchased an 1080ti EVGA FTW3 and am gaming @1999mhz and 6003mhz mem 127% power target, +26 gpu offset, 500MHZ mem offset, 1.093v, temps max a 63 Celsius with aggressive fan curve. STABLE STABLE STABLE I can get 2012mhz @+39 gpu offset and can get 2025mhz @ +52 gpu offset but is not 100% stable ....my FTW3 crashes at that speed (AFTER 15 MIN IN UNIGENE HEAVEN) This gpu down clocks as low as 1924mhz when gpu boost sees fit or when temps get above 60 celcuis(THATS WHY I AM WATER COOLING AND ALSO I AM WATERCOOLING TO CURE THE UPGRADE ITCH) I currently have a custom loop ordered from EKWB and performance PC.....and will get FTW3 EKWB water block wen released in a couple weeks.... I AM GLAD I READ THIS THREAD CAUSE NOW I FEEL BETTER ABOUT MY PURCHASE!!!!!!! I posted in toms hardware also cause I felt me FTW3 was a dud and I could have gotten an founders edition with waterblock a lot sooner, or I could have waited to get a kingpin. here is a link to the thread http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3427146/evga-1080ti-ftw3-kingpin-custom-water-loop-overclocking.html#19750769
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 16:07:11
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TIME TO POST MY RESULTS
I recently purchased an 1080ti EVGA FTW3 and am gaming @1999mhz and 6003mhz mem
127% power target, +26 gpu offset, 500MHZ mem offset, 1.093v, temps max a 63 Celsius with aggressive fan curve. STABLE STABLE STABLE
I can get 2012mhz @+39 gpu offset and can get 2025mhz @ +52 gpu offset but is not 100% stable ....my FTW3 crashes at that speed (AFTER 15 MIN IN UNIGENE HEAVEN)
This gpu down clocks as low as 1924mhz when gpu boost sees fit or when temps get above 60 celcuis(THATS WHY I AM WATER COOLING AND ALSO I AM WATERCOOLING TO CURE THE UPGRADE ITCH)
I currently have a custom loop ordered from EKWB and performance PC.....and will get FTW3 EKWB water block wen released in a couple weeks....
I AM GLAD I READ THIS THREAD CAUSE NOW I FEEL BETTER ABOUT MY PURCHASE!!!!!!!
I posted in toms hardware also cause I felt me FTW3 was a dud and I could have gotten an founders edition with waterblock a lot sooner, or I could have waited to get a kingpin. here is a link to the thread
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3427146/evga-1080ti-ftw3-kingpin-custom-water-loop-overclocking.html#19750769
So are you happy with your card or unhappy with your card? Performance- NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti
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- 1569 MHz Base Clock + 430MHz (1999MHz)
- 1683 MHz Boost Clock + 316MHz (1999MHz)
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Luck of the Lottery
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/29 16:44:15
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corndog1836
TIME TO POST MY RESULTS
I recently purchased an 1080ti EVGA FTW3 and am gaming @1999mhz and 6003mhz mem
127% power target, +26 gpu offset, 500MHZ mem offset, 1.093v, temps max a 63 Celsius with aggressive fan curve. STABLE STABLE STABLE
I can get 2012mhz @+39 gpu offset and can get 2025mhz @ +52 gpu offset but is not 100% stable ....my FTW3 crashes at that speed (AFTER 15 MIN IN UNIGENE HEAVEN)
This gpu down clocks as low as 1924mhz when gpu boost sees fit or when temps get above 60 celcuis(THATS WHY I AM WATER COOLING AND ALSO I AM WATERCOOLING TO CURE THE UPGRADE ITCH)
I currently have a custom loop ordered from EKWB and performance PC.....and will get FTW3 EKWB water block wen released in a couple weeks....
I AM GLAD I READ THIS THREAD CAUSE NOW I FEEL BETTER ABOUT MY PURCHASE!!!!!!!
I posted in toms hardware also cause I felt me FTW3 was a dud and I could have gotten an founders edition with waterblock a lot sooner, or I could have waited to get a kingpin. here is a link to the thread
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3427146/evga-1080ti-ftw3-kingpin-custom-water-loop-overclocking.html#19750769
So are you happy with your card or unhappy with your card?
Performance- NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti
- 3584 Pixel Pipelines
- 1569 MHz Base Clock + 430MHz (1999MHz)
- 1683 MHz Boost Clock + 316MHz (1999MHz)
- 351.5GT/s Texture Fill Rate
Luck of the Lottery
after reading and researching about out FTW3 cards I would say I am satisified with 1999mhz STABLE. under water it will stay at those clock speeds. I AM NEVER HAPPY!!!! we have an expensive hobby and I ALWAYS want more for my money, HOWEVER, 1999mhz STABLE IS NOT A DUD, but it is more on lines of a solid overclock!!!!! besides , even if we got 2150mhz(ON THE HIGH END OF THESE CARDS, A GOLDEN CHIP IF YOU WILL) it would NOT be a noticeable difference in games coming from 1999mhz.... the 150mhz increase would not give you many more FPS. coming from two 780ti's in SLI, I would have to say I made a good upgrade choice!!!!!!!
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2017/05/30 07:02:24
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Its all lottery regardless of manufacturer,
got mine to 2050 stable, 55 on the gpu offset 127 on PL and no volts (volts cause instability at least for me)...once she warms up drops to 2038. I'm perfectly fine with that :) besides the diff in FPS between 2000 and 2100 is like 1 frame, so anything over 2ghz is fluff...these cards are cool quiet beasts out of the box.
One good thing is the mem oc on this card I hit lotto on as she clocks +800 stable (but I run it at +750)
Superposition of 10254 4k optimized.
to me anything over 2000ghz is icing. but I know how we still strive for higher, its human nature. I was guilty of chasing the 2075-2100 Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious magical setting..
lol but then I said to myself just enjoy the card.
Adjusting the voltage slider will increase the temperature threshold that the card uses to throttle the card when hot. So normally when the temps hit 60C it might throttle it down to 1.04V (for example) but if you increase the voltage slider then it will stay at 1.06 and run at the faster bin, unless the temps become a real problem and throttles on the higher temps too. Can't imagine that happening on FTW3 cards though. What you might run into is that card crashing when it's trying to run at 1.09 at the start. That's were the voltage curve comes into play. If you have multiple voltages running the same frequency then it will always chose the lowest voltage for that frequency. So having 1.06, 1.07, 1.08 and 1.09 all running at 2000MHz will cause the card to ignore everything above 1.06 and run at 1.06 with 2000Mhz, even at 60C (for example) with the slider maxed out, or half way or something.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2018/02/02 18:44:52
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Folks,
Is it possible to retain the XOC settings with the program unloaded? I mean, set once, close it and forget it?
Thanks.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
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Folks,
Is it possible to retain the XOC settings with the program unloaded? I mean, set once, close it and forget it?
Thanks.
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2018/02/02 21:01:31
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No way to save it into the EPROM or something similar?
Thanks!
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Re: 1080Ti FTW3 won't core overclock stably past +50. Luck of the Lottery, or bad card?
2018/02/02 21:59:51
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No way to save it into the EPROM or something similar?
Thanks!
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