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2017/07/28 18:20:19 (permalink)
Welp, As I noticed lastnight. none overclocked and fan profile at 100% @ 55"C, my top 1080 Ti hits about 90'C

Second GPU runs at less then 70, so found it a little odd. So.. Deciding to go the EVGA cooler route for the 280 CLC https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835288008&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Liquid+%2F+Water+Cooling-_-N82E16835288008&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwevLBRCGARIsAKnAJvcoEbGzeO0UF2-Ah9hONVd1-vTVZ0l-9rlPS3bbACm4TZBzmXG11p0aAqc6EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Would that help or is there something wrong with my 1080 Ti? I'm planning to swap the two around to rule out an issue.




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/28 18:36:51 (permalink)
    Swapping is a good test
     
    That is a CPU cooler in your link ---> do not know if they can be used on a GPU
     
    What is your case and case fan setup ?
     
     

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/28 19:23:23 (permalink)
    Because it uses asetek as its core, and more importantly, the way it attaches mounting brackets, it can be used on GPUs, but only if you find the right bracket. It won't be included as the CLC is being marketed as a CPU cooler and only have CPU brackets in the package.

    But on a slight tangent, it's not really worth buying this specific CLC, unless you plan on side mounting the GPU (with pcie riser cable). You should easily find something with similar cooling capability and for less $$ (since it most likely won't have RGB).

    Edit: also, what ever CLC gets used, care must be taken as the rest of the board will suffer if there is no cooling for them. I mean, aside from FE/reference shroud cards, all after market cards use single massive heat sink designs to cool all components (even split heatsink cards usually have the two attached somehow). And without proper cooling, you'll easily exprience what I went through with a hybridized Titan X Maxwell... a fried card. Because the GPU stayed cool, the stock blower fan never spun up enough to cool off the smaller, but also heat generating components (VRM, MOSFETs, etc). The new EVGA hybrid kits include additional parts for those small parts. Too bad they're usually out of stock.

    Isn't 90C past the stock thermal threshold (83C?)?

    Like Cool GTX, I am curious about the case airflow. Or lack of?
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/28 20:15:43 (permalink)
    Wrote that at work sorry.. was kinda hurry hurry. let me clear some things up.

    I plan on using the CLC on my 4790K stock CPU to keep the heat from the top of the card away.

    As far as cooling goes. I have the fastest CFM Fans that can be housed within the CoolerMaster HAF XM case. (Exclusion of HD bay as the one I had there originally died)
    http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/haf-xm/ ) Case

    200MM exhaust fan is next to the cards, its got a 120mm fan blowing air from the hd's which is initially being cooled by another 200mm

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835345039&cm_re=200mm-_-35-345-039-_-Product Side fan, front fan and 2x exhaust fans

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1PC4A20408 - Exhaust fan near mobo IO Shield.

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/EVGA-100-FS-C201-KR-ACX-ACTIVE-COOLING-EXTREME-CPU/44429810 my CPU cooler





    Front 200mm is intake, 120mm on the back of the HD tray blowing to the GPU's is intake (exhausting near gpus)
    200mm Side is exhaust
    140mm exhaust near io
    2 200mm Exhaust top
    post edited by Squall_Rinoa86 - 2017/07/28 20:18:54




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/28 20:33:45 (permalink)
    Personally I think you have too much exhaust and not enough intake.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 00:36:41 (permalink)
    Flipped gpus around, the top one now sits about 87'C instead of 90'C and throttling. No idea.. when its in the 2nd spot, it doesnt hit over 70.

    Also flipped one of my top exhaust fans to an in take, dropped the temps to 83'C so acceptable. Guessing I didnt have enough static pressure for fans. I'll look to swapping out my HD Cage 120mm to a faster one in a few weeks. Guess I'll hold off on the CLC cooler for now.




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 00:57:20 (permalink)
    Good idea with moving to a top mount CLC for the CPU. I think your generating to much heat in one area. I think you'll see some big difference in CPU temps and overall case temps.
     
    What sort of load are the GPU's under when your seeing those temps? Are you sure the fans are working correctly on the top card? I'm not sure how Precision X handles fan control for SLI.


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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 06:54:04 (permalink)
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    Good idea with moving to a top mount CLC for the CPU. I think your generating to much heat in one area. I think you'll see some big difference in CPU temps and overall case temps.
     
    What sort of load are the GPU's under when your seeing those temps? Are you sure the fans are working correctly on the top card? I'm not sure how Precision X handles fan control for SLI.


    100% load on BF4 and 200% res at 1440p. I have the gpu pegged to 100% but seems like the fans max out at 3717 rpm which seems very low imo. My 2 1070 ftw2 were a lot cooler.

    Going to order the CLC next week to drop temps more along with a new 120mm fan.
    post edited by Squall_Rinoa86 - 2017/07/29 19:21:40




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 07:31:11 (permalink)
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    Personally I think you have too much exhaust and not enough intake.
     
     
     
     


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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 07:49:41 (permalink)
    Front & Top Intake
    Rear Exhaust Fan CPU Fan Air Right out the Back Rear.
    Side Exhaust, seems the Side is Pushing Air into the GPUs and the GPUs are Pushing Air Back into the Side Fan.
    My Single Cards never went above 64C

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 15:38:28 (permalink)
    Idea.. what do you use for a smoke test




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 15:58:36 (permalink)
    Based on your picture, your entire issue is you have VERY LITTLE SPACE between the cards, which isn't allowing air INTO the "top" card to get good cooling.
     
     You need to figure out how to move the bottom card so it's not as close to the top card, or you need to replace the bottom card with a "short" card to allow at least ONE of the fans on the top card to get good airflow.
     
     Water cooling the top card should also cure the problem.
     

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/29 17:37:24 (permalink)
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    Based on your picture, your entire issue is you have VERY LITTLE SPACE between the cards, which isn't allowing air INTO the "top" card to get good cooling.
     
     You need to figure out how to move the bottom card so it's not as close to the top card, or you need to replace the bottom card with a "short" card to allow at least ONE of the fans on the top card to get good airflow.
     
     Water cooling the top card should also cure the problem.
     



    Cant move it. It's a Z97 board, the PCI-E under the current two is locked @ 4X 2.0

    next years tax returns will be a rebuild, of which i'm unsure if i'll go i7 6850K, or the i7 7700K and that'll be the leap to DDR4

    Both cards fan speed maxes out at 3717 but it fluctuates ALOT.
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/30 05:28:15 (permalink)
    Blower style coolers would give you better temps in your situation. Will the AIO help? Yep.


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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/30 05:55:55 (permalink)
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    Both cards fan speed maxes out at 3717 but it fluctuates ALOT.




     
    In your GPU OC software Increase hysteresis - its probably set to a default value of 0, try 3
     
    If your fan speed increases at say 70C, then with hysteresis set to "3" the GPU would have to cool to 67C before the fan would slow again
     
     

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/30 10:04:45 (permalink)
    IF changing the case is not an option then get rid of those oversized fans, they should replace with two 120s atleast in each place. 
    I would also change the side to intake as it is supposed to be.
    That is one of the better cooling cases but not if it is not set up properly.
    BTW your pics show lots of dust in the grills, you need to get someone with an air compressor to blow them out, canned air wont cut it.
     



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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/30 17:20:53 (permalink)
    Ordered the CLC, a new fan near the GPU's, Powelink x2 for the gpu cables... hoping to get this resolved...




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 10:10:00 (permalink)
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    Idea.. what do you use for a smoke test

    Incense Sticks or Smoke Gun.

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 11:43:33 (permalink)
    I would try the side as intake not exhaust.
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 12:43:20 (permalink)
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    Idea.. what do you use for a smoke test

    Incense Sticks or Smoke Gun.



    I'll Try the incense later. Ty :D




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 14:41:42 (permalink)
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    Ordered the CLC, a new fan near the GPU's, Powelink x2 for the gpu cables... hoping to get this resolved...





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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 17:01:22 (permalink)
    Question, for my gtx 1080ti SC black do the fans blow into the case and suck in air from the pci bracket from the outside? If so, will a fan blowing upward within my case help with temperatures?
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 17:52:18 (permalink)
    Generally takes it in from the side and front expelling it both inside and some out. Fan blowing on them from the side helps. It helped when I swapped side fan to intake




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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/07/31 18:22:29 (permalink)
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    Question, for my gtx 1080ti SC black do the fans blow into the case and suck in air from the pci bracket from the outside? If so, will a fan blowing upward within my case help with temperatures?


    I have NEVER seen a GPU that sucks air in from the bracket that came that way from the factory.
    They don't all blow air out EFFICIENTLY through those bracket holes, but they ALL blow out - by stock default.
    Most "fan-type" cards suck air in through the fan and blow the majority of it up and around in the case - which is OK if your case has very good ventilation OR if you don't have high-power GPUs, but is not good thermal management when you have multiple GPUs.
     A FEW fan-type cards and pretty much ALL blower-type cards have heatsink fins that are parallel to the PCI-E plug-in connector at the bottom of the board, they tend to blow more air out of the case then right back into it which can often help in multi-GPU setups as the hot air doesn't just recirculate IN the case as much.
     
     

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/08/01 09:38:19 (permalink)
    Your card on top is cooled by the heat of the bottom card.
    Put your hand over the card at the top, you will feel the heat.
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/08/01 22:47:44 (permalink)
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    IF changing the case is not an option then get rid of those oversized fans, they should replace with two 120s atleast in each place. 
    I would also change the side to intake as it is supposed to be.
    That is one of the better cooling cases but not if it is not set up properly.
    BTW your pics show lots of dust in the grills, you need to get someone with an air compressor to blow them out, canned air wont cut it.
     





    Actually.. that part isnt actually a dust filter, it was at one point and removed it but I have sense washed it.

    I'm actually needing to find a case that has room for a 280 CLC cooler. XM case does NOT.. and I had to jerry rig it for now till I can get an appropriate case.





    Evga shipped my powerlinks but they wont be here till most likely next week.
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/08/02 00:45:41 (permalink)
    You know you can get the power links from Amazon for cheaper than EVGA right?
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/08/02 03:26:39 (permalink)
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    You know you can get the power links from Amazon for cheaper than EVGA right?


    Paid $15 each and then used my evga bucks from folding. I spent like $28 And some change for 2 included in that was shipping also.
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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/08/03 15:47:50 (permalink)
    Your Rig looks Very Nice
     
    ACX type coolers - I like Full Tower case

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    Re: 1080 Ti HOT 2017/08/04 01:12:17 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Your Rig looks Very Nice
     
    ACX type coolers - I like Full Tower case


    I have used these fans sense 560 Ti. Never had an issue with heat, till now. Thinking I need a bigger tower, and maybe swap a 200mm for 2 140mm fans. The CLC helped, gpu temps dropped 10c but still not enough to drop temps to under 80 yet.




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