TheWereCat

AHowes
Ok.. do you need to reinstall the drivers when you flash the bios or no?

It is definitely recommended

What for?

AHowes
Is this XOC bios online still to grab? Thought I read awhile ago they removed it?

It's still up... https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/192806/192806

Thx!

rduranso
Just found this thread and installed the XOC vbios on my FTW3 11GB. My voltage is still being limited to 1.044v at any given time.
 
Testing with Superposition 8k optimized and +50mhz gpu clock and +1000mhz memory clock in Precision XOC.
 
Am I missing something simple or is a higher voltage impossible with this card?

No idea if it has any barring to the voltage or not but I was told one should remove and reinstall the graphics card drivers when you use a totally different vbios.
 
Did you also totally remove power to the card when switching the bios? Pull the PSU plug and hold in the power button on the PC for 20-30 secs to fully drain power before firing it back up after switching the bios switch?
 

Edome

rduranso
Just found this thread and installed the XOC vbios on my FTW3 11GB. My voltage is still being limited to 1.044v at any given time.
 Testing with Superposition 8k optimized and +50mhz gpu clock and +1000mhz memory clock in Precision XOC.
 Am I missing something simple or is a higher voltage impossible with this card?

Have you checked e.g. 1.093v is higher on the V/F curve than 1.043v?
If so, sounds like the card has a defective VRM.

You were correct - I needed to properly set the V/F curve in AB. Rookie mistake. I'm able to hit 1.093v now on the card using the XOC vbios!
 
Thanks for the help
 
 

going to test my power limit on my ftw 3 ill be back......

Man this thread was started 5 months ago. Still waiting for the fix.

Doubt it.. but they do know about it.

I though the xoc bios does fix it? If so then evga can fix the bios

AHowes
I though the xoc bios does fix it? If so then evga can fix the bios

XOC is a non-official leaked bios that has the power & voltage limit data sections complete removed.
The slave bios works on non-evga cards, so this indicates a possible 330W hard limit on FTW3.
 

vladoski
Yeah I thought bios from other manufacturers fixed this issue on the ftw3. If other bios works, I don't see why it would take 5 months update their own bios.

I haven't seen anyone exceeding the 330W limit on a non-xoc bios. We tested the Palit 350W bios a few posts back but the limit still stayed @ 330W.


 
 

330watt power limit equates to what?? 117% ??

Yes i've seen that post and hopefully team evga sees it as well!

Weeks ago....
 

ty_ger07
I have submitted this information to a handful of online news outlets in hopes that more light will be shed on this matter.  I hope that this will prompt EVGA to take this issue seriously.
 

EVGA has been ignoring their GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 graphics cards' power limit issue.
 
On July 11, 2017, a problem was reported on the EVGA forums regarding the EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 graphics card's power limit. 
https://forums.evga.com/m2693145.aspx
 
The issue reported is essentially that the card prematurely throttles well before its advertised power limit is reached.  Additionally, some owners of the FTW3 have reported that the boost clock frequency is very erratic and appears to be less stable than other GTX 1080 Ti cards which they have owned or tested.  Some users have reported that they have owned base or lower-model GTX 1080 Ti video cards which at a lower set clock frequency and/or at a lower set power limit sustained higher power consumption than their GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 video card and/or have received scores which exceeded their GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 video card's benchmark scores during synthetic benchmarking.
 
On September 6, 2017, EVGA Product Manager Jacob Freeman said "Looking into this."
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2712642
 
On September 15, 2017, Jacob Freeman said "We cannot seem to reproduce this year[sic], try using 3DMark11 or Furmark."
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2714804
 
Many tests were performed and many responses were provided by owners of the video card, but Jacob did not respond.
 
On September 20, 2017, a user reported that they believed that there was definitely an issue with the FTW3 and stated that they believe that the FTW3 has a BIOS issue.  That user even received a blue ribbon from either an EVGA forum moderator or an EVGA support staff for their discovery.  But, apparently, not much more attention by EVGA was given to the matter for quite some time.
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2716026


It wasn't until more than a month later on October 27, 2017 that Jacob Freeman finally responded saying "Sorry for the delay in updating on this. We have been working on this and will have an update soon."
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2726070


It has been more than one business week since that statement was made, and no additional information on the matter has been provided by EVGA.  EVGA customers who own the expensive GTX 1080Ti FTW3 have been living with the issue for nearly four months are are starting to get very vocal about about their dissatisfaction and have been using phrases such as 'false advertising', 'competitor', 'support', and 'reputation'.  To EVGA, one FTW3 owner stated, "The real problem is that you have known about this since before mid-July and have either denied it or you have avoided this forum post like the plague."
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2728285
 
 
Would you please consider creating a news article on this matter in hopes that it will give EVGA a kick in the butt?  There are quite a few FTW3 owners who are desperately looking for representation at this time.
 
Thank you for your consideration,
"ty_ger07" : EVGA Forum
 
 

PLEASE NOTE: EVGA's forum appears to have an ongoing issue with Google Chrome compatibility.  If you use the Chrome browser, the above links will likely not properly take you to each specified forum post.  Please use a browser other than Google Chrome to more easily find the posts which I refer to.

 
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Sajin
I think that's the reason why the kingpin extreme watercooling oc vbios has been taken offline.

Well Kingpin's all 3 stock bios already allow for 360W (+120%) so no reason for Nvidia to be against FTW3's 358W limit.
 
Also Zotac Arctic Storm supports 432W (360W+20%) and Galax/KFA2 Hall of Fame 450W (350W+29%), both with the stock bios.
(Funnily Zotac has the worst PCB/VRM quality of all 1080ti, while Galax/KFA2 has the best one.)

Well, power limit past 330W is not really important for gaming, especially when the GPU, when overclocked, tends to secretly throttle performance that is not visible on monitoring software. So far I've seen only Kingpin & HOF 1080ti can avoid this throttling (XOC bios doesn't help either).
 
For 1080 Ti the sweet-spot for performance/heat produced is @ 150-180W (power slider @ ~60% for FTW3). Memory OC goes straight to FPS, whereas only like 1/7 of core clock increase goes to fps while significantly increasing heat & power.