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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/09 16:38:02 (permalink)
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My spread sheet below
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OU-ZzQXY4ia_0WEbWCLr7vdufTSvSHT5pUfq5eN097s/edit#gid=230605514

That is your original vbios correct?


Yes the OC or Slave bios


 

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/11 09:20:42 (permalink)
Hello people come from Germany and I am glad that there is finally a solution.
BIOS does not work on my Hydro Copper 11G-P4-6599-KR
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 08:42:12 (permalink)
So because my FTW3 is red I can't use the fixed bios? (p/n 6796)
This is not resolved then.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 11:27:36 (permalink)
Until EVGA provides a new Bios to correct this issue on All the FTW3 Graphics Cards this issue is Not Resolved.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 11:43:35 (permalink)
I was hoping to at least use the fixed bios from Vince, since all hope seems to be lost that EVGA will actually do anything at this point.
The fact that I can't flash a bios because of the paint color on the GPU is even more ridiculous than this thread.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 12:13:30 (permalink)
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So because my FTW3 is red I can't use the fixed bios? (p/n 6796)
This is not resolved then.


You can, but you'll need to wait for someone to upload the .rom file.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 14:17:24 (permalink)
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So because my FTW3 is red I can't use the fixed bios? (p/n 6796)
This is not resolved then.


You can, but you'll need to wait for someone to upload the .rom file.


That Someone Needs To Be EVGA.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 14:32:46 (permalink)
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So because my FTW3 is red I can't use the fixed bios? (p/n 6796)
This is not resolved then.


You can, but you'll need to wait for someone to upload the .rom file.


That Someone Needs To Be EVGA.


Any user that can use the .exe's to update their vbios should be able to upload a copy of the .rom to the forums.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 16:27:31 (permalink)
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So because my FTW3 is red I can't use the fixed bios? (p/n 6796)
This is not resolved then.


You can, but you'll need to wait for someone to upload the .rom file.


That Someone Needs To Be EVGA.


Any user that can use the .exe's to update their vbios should be able to upload a copy of the .rom to the forums.


Ya gota be more specific here. The 6797 is for the elite cards that I need.

What are you talking about? Anyone that can use nvflash to make a copy of the 6797 just needs to upload that .rom file and who will edit it to work with the 6797 elite?

Or you talking if someone uses that Asus no limit bios? Then they can flash with the hybrid ftw3 bios?

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 17:55:53 (permalink)
I see the thread got bumped from being pinned again
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 18:33:12 (permalink)
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So because my FTW3 is red I can't use the fixed bios? (p/n 6796)
This is not resolved then.


You can, but you'll need to wait for someone to upload the .rom file.


That Someone Needs To Be EVGA.


Any user that can use the .exe's to update their vbios should be able to upload a copy of the .rom to the forums.


Ya gota be more specific here. The 6797 is for the elite cards that I need.

What are you talking about? Anyone that can use nvflash to make a copy of the 6797 just needs to upload that .rom file and who will edit it to work with the 6797 elite?

Or you talking if someone uses that Asus no limit bios? Then they can flash with the hybrid ftw3 bios?

Be more specific? I was being specific. Any person that owns a 6696/6698 FTW3 can give you a copy of the updated vbios using gpu-z/nvflash. No editing needs to be done. You can simply flash the 6696/6698 vbios to your card using the nvflash -6 command. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 18:39:00 (permalink)
?? Ok. So with nvflash it will let us flash the card with the wrong card bios but evga's bios flash .exe won't. Gotcha.

No prob here as I also have a ftw3 hybrid to snag the original bios from.

The -6 turns off flash protection.

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 18:42:26 (permalink)
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So with nvflash it will let us flash the card with the wrong card bios but evga's bios flash .exe won't. Gotcha.

The -6 turns off flash protection.

Exactly. -6 will allow firmware, and adapter pci subsystem id mismatch.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 18:47:20 (permalink)
Ok.. I'll be sure to try and upload the original ftw3 hybrid slave and master bios if there's some way to on the forums.

Will have to wait a day as I'm currently going to be reinstalling win10 tonight after upgrading to a sweet Asus maximus x apex board and i7 8700k cpu! :)

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 18:52:57 (permalink)
You should only be updating the slave. You'll need to put the updated slave vbios into a .rar file, and then upload the .rar file to a web hosting site such as mediafire.com. After you have uploaded the .rar file to the mediafire.com you can copy and paste the link to the file here.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 20:23:08 (permalink)
Bottom Line not fixed not sanctioned you must go rouge forget problem because it's now fixed....  EVGA off the hook....  BS

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:27:18 (permalink)
Flash it with this ROM and see if it works.
 
goo.gl/28Anw1
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:31:56 (permalink)
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Flash it with this ROM and see if it works.
 
goo.gl/28Anw1


Which rom is that?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:35:02 (permalink)
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Flash it with this ROM and see if it works.
 
goo.gl/28Anw1


Which rom is that?




 

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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:40:06 (permalink)
So if we flash this bios and the card bricks, does the warranty still cover the card? If something happens down the line and we send the card in can EVGA decline warranty service because of the altered bios?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:48:55 (permalink)
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So if we flash this bios and the card bricks, does the warranty still cover the card? If something happens down the line and we send the card in can EVGA decline warranty service because of the altered bios?


You'll be covered as long as you only flash the slave vbios. Leave the master alone.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:52:06 (permalink)
So we have to use the Hydro bios on the Elite version then or the regular FTW3 bios to flash? Thanks in advance Sajin.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 22:55:02 (permalink)
You should use the 6696 (regular ftw3) vbios on any of the air cooled cards. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 23:06:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Sajin 2018/03/13 15:19:12
Flash your card with this and then use the .exe bios to see if it'll flash. 
 
goo.gl/PG1Snv
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/12 23:10:03 (permalink)
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Flash your card with this and then use the .exe bios to see if it'll flash. 
 
goo.gl/PG1Snv


That will most likely work. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/13 12:55:23 (permalink)
Thanks worked great.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% 2018/03/13 15:15:15 (permalink)
Updated the op with instructions on how to update 6699, 6796, 6797, or 6694 cards.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/03/13 15:58:02 (permalink)
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Hey guys,
 
I know this has been discussed numerous times and most of those times the slave bios was not activating.
 
What I'm experiencing is this. Although precision XOC lets me move the power target slider to 127% the card is power limited at 117%.
 
Let me give you an example:
If I run a game that runs the GPU under 117% power then the card runs at 2100MHz constantly (every game I tried runs the card at around 100% power). If I run, let's say, Furmark, the card runs at around 1880MHz at 117%. If the slave BIOS was working correctly, then the card would go to 127% (at least this is what I understand). Precision XOC and Furmark both say that the card is power limited.
 
My GPU temps do not pass 37C, and the rest of the sensors are under 45C. Slave bios is 86.02.39.01.90.
 
Just to be clear: I am not saying that the card under-performs, on the contrary, it OCs to a stable 2100MHz during gaming with no frequency dipping whatsoever. The reason I'm opening this thread is that I believe that the slave bios, or something else is keeping the GPU from working as a FTW3 should.
 
I also contacted support but the tech just keeps giving me unrelated motivations like:
 
"Not hitting the power target is actually not a bad thing, it does mean that the card is able to reach the maximum performance set by GPU-Boost without requiring the full power target to do so.
Please also note that the power draw and power target used may vary from application to application even though you see 100% GPU load, and there may also be other limiting factors like temperature or stable voltage from the PSU, but the clock your card is reaching does see to be quite alright."
 
"The GPU clocks are controlled by Nvidia Drivers, and once the GPU clocks reaches maximum ( max Boost) Driver controls the power factor to certain limit even though power target is set to 127%.
If your GPU is giving Maximum performance at 117% it means you have one of the good GPU on the Graphics card. Which means Your GPU needs less energy to reach Peak performance.
But Some Graphics card may need 120% or upto 127% to get peak performance.
The Power Target and Temperature targets are supplementary to Nvidia Boost. Once Graphics card reaches peak of the performance at certain Frequency.
Driver controls the power target for the stability of the Graphics card, Please go through following link to know more about Nvidia GPU boost 2.0.
https://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/technology/gpu-boost-2/technology.
Nvidia Driver play main role to control overall performance, Even though the BIOS has set 127% power Target, "
 
In my opinion he is not on the subject even if I tried explaining three times already.
 
Any insight is appreciated.
 
Cheers.
 

 
 
 
THE VBIOSES LISTED HERE FIXES THE 117% LIMIT. 
 
How to properly update your cards vbios: (Only for 6696 & 6698 cards)
 
#1 If you own a 6696 download the ftw3.rar. If you own a 6698 download the ftw3_hybrid.rar.
#2 Extract all files to the desktop.
#3 Shutdown pc, unplug psu from wall, hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
#4 Move vbios selector switch to the slave position. The vbios selector switch can be located to the left of the two 8-pin power inputs on the card.
#5 Plug psu back into wall & boot pc.
#6 Open precision xoc and verify you're on the slave vbios. If you're on the slave vbios you should be able to slide the power target slider to 127% inside precision xoc. Close xoc.
#7 Use the secondary.exe to update the slave vbios. Shutdown pc, unplug psu from wall, hold case power on button for 30 seconds, replug psu back into wall & boot pc. Reinstall graphics drivers if necessary.
 
If you own a 6699, 6796, 6797, or 6694 you'll need to do the following...
 
#1 Download this file.
#2 Extract all files to your c:\ drive.
#3 Shutdown pc, unplug psu from wall, hold case power on button for 30 seconds.
#4 Move vbios selector switch to the slave position. The vbios selector switch can be located to the left of the two 8-pin power inputs on the card.
#5 Plug psu back into wall & boot pc.
#6 Open precision xoc and verify you're on the slave vbios. If you're on the slave vbios you should be able to slide the power target slider to 127% inside precision xoc. Close xoc.
#7 Run command prompt via administrator. 
- Windows 7: Press the start button and type "cmd", right click "cmd" in the list that pops up and select run as administrator.  
- Windows 8/10: Press the Windows Key & X keys together, right click "command prompt" and select run as administrator. 
#8 Type the following commands into the command prompt... "cd  c:\nvflash(3)" without quotes and hit enter. 
- Type "nvflash64 --protectoff" without quotes and hit enter. (Turns off write protection on the card. Some cards will need to have this disabled before you can flash the card so always perform this command before flashing.) 
- Type "nvflash64 -6 FTW3Slave.rom" without quotes and hit enter. 
#9 If you get an error stating "Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID <xxxx.xxxx> does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID <xxxx.xxxx>" just ignore the error (this error will cause no harm, it's just letting you know you are changing the subvendor name/subsystem id on the card.) Continue on flashing by pressing "Y" to override the error. nvflash should now flash the FTW3Slave.rom to your card and complete by saying the flash was successful. 
#10 Restart PC. (NVIDIA drivers should automatically detect and install the card, if not, you may need to uninstall the drivers and re-install them.)
#11 Download the ftw3.rar & extract all files to your desktop.
#12 Use the secondary.exe to update the slave vbios. Shutdown pc, unplug psu from wall, hold case power on button for 30 seconds, replug psu back into wall & boot pc. Reinstall graphics drivers if necessary.
 
Note: If you own a FTW3 that runs at 12 GHz on the memory you'll need to use msi afterburner to overclock the memory back to 12 GHz as you'll be installing a vbios that will run the memory at 11 GHz. If you own a FTW3 DT card you may notice instability as you just installed a regular ftw3 vbios onto your card.
 

@Sajin
Why did you not just create a New Thread under your own account that way you could have gotten a BR for your actions here.
Being that the OP is really no longer the owner of the First Post in this Thread and it would be unfair for the OP to receive BR for someone else's write up.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/03/13 16:16:18 (permalink)
Agreed
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117% (Issue has been fixed, see op 2018/03/13 16:36:37 (permalink)
This is the main thread for this issue. Instructions on how to flash the cards should be listed in this thread. The owner of the thread doesn't need to do anything to the first post anymore as the issue has been resolved. Other mods can see that I edited the op last.
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