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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 13:15:38
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Back to Old Bios (Lots of 1 and 16) (What do the prefcap numbers mean in gpu-z? You can find that info here.) I bet the difference or issue with the perf. caps was the Changing of Driver and Not the Bios. https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid_340e5d94f1294c728db0ec7e9864ec70 (Only I can See This Link)  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vzjXNWLWk6AD-odbBOKUp_iz_y_3WmiA2VnLMQvCQaQ/edit?usp=sharing I will run it one more time with not such a High CPU Overclock. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T7cTHI5tp9q5gkKBY1LDFpTGRTrjiOeIZNZx1eym71Y/edit?usp=sharingSame Still (Lots of 1 and 16) But how current is this Data? /*!
* Power. Indicating perf is limited by total power limit.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_POWER = 1,
/*!
* Thermal. Indicating perf is limited by temperature limit.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_THERMAL = 2,
/*!
* Reliability. Indicating perf is limited by reliability voltage.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_RELIABILITY = 4,
/*!
* Operating. Indicating perf is limited by max operating voltage.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_OPERATING = 8,
/*!
* Utilization. Indicating perf is limited by GPU utilization.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_UTILIZATION = 16,
/*!
* SLI GPUBoost Synchronization.
*/
NV_GPU_PERF_POLICY_ID_SW_SLI_GPU_BOOST_SYNC = 32, The value can be a combination of two or more flags, in which case they get added (technically OR'd). E.g.: 18 would be SW_THERMAL + SW_UTILIZATION (2 + 16)
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 14:17:38
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So what happens when you go back to a older driver and run the newer vbios?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 14:21:51
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So what happens when you go back to a older driver and run the newer vbios?
You going to pay me for my time a effort to go back  I see 1 and 16 are fine or is this Not True?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 14:23:06
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16 isn't fine when the gpu is being ran through superposition. You should only receive 1 when the power target is reached/hit.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 14:26:48
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16 isn't fine when the gpu is being ran through superposition.
OK this Driver 390.77 and the New Bios is what you are asking?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 14:27:56
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Sajin
16 isn't fine when the gpu is being ran through superposition.
OK this Driver 390.77 and the New Bios is what you are asking?
Yes, if that was the driver you were running when you got these results.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 14:28:49
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Sajin
16 isn't fine when the gpu is being ran through superposition.
OK this Driver 390.77 and the New Bios is what you are asking?
Yes, if that was the driver you were running when you got these results.
Yes it was.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 15:46:50
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Still see a 16 all over.
Maybe I killed my GPU with this Bios.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 15:48:06
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Still see a 16 all over.
Maybe I killed my GPU with this Bios.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 15:52:54
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Still see a 16 all over.
Maybe I killed my GPU with this Bios.
Testing now on the Normal Bios.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 15:58:00
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So then Sajin are you saying that we Should Not Use this Bios?
No, I'm just saying something isn't 100% right with it.
Should we or Should we not use this Bios if not 100%
I would wait for official word of EVGA before update my BIOS. Just IMO.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 16:09:29
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I even get a lot of 16 on the Normal Bios and With NO OC so their seems to be a break down somewhere Driver I bet.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/04 16:11:37
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 15:48:50
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Ok, so I did more testing... Hitting 16 isn't a problem. The reason we didn't get 16's in our other tests is because we had k-boost enabled. I just ran the following test with only afterburner voltage lock feature enabled which acts like k-boost... https://docs.google.com/s...JWo/edit#gid=675438818
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 15:50:48
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Now that we know that 16 isn't a problem your clock is still suffering from hitting other perfcaps.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 16:34:24
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Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 16:43:00
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Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file? I have never flashed a bios before and the thought of bricking $900 gpu worries me.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 16:44:56
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Sajin
Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file?
Yes.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 16:46:44
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Sajin
Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file?
Yes.
Is there a way to fix it if I screw it up? Rumor has it that I can mess up a one car funeral without to much effort.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 16:57:10
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Nice to see this finally fixed. Not a moment too soon! Wondering if Vince helped Evga with the BIOS 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 17:45:50
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Sajin
Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file?
Yes.
Is this "the" EVGA fix? Or is this "a" fix?
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 18:28:39
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Sajin
Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file?
Yes.
Is this "the" EVGA fix? Or is this "a" fix?
I think this is a fix. Not the official one from EVGA. I still would wait for an oficial word from EVGA about this issue being fixed or not.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 18:40:42
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Is there a way to fix it if I screw it up? Rumor has it that I can mess up a one car funeral without to much effort.
Yes. _Gir_
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Sajin
Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file?
Yes.
Is this "the" EVGA fix? Or is this "a" fix?
I'd say evga fix since it's coming from Vince.
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 19:05:22
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Is there a way to fix it if I screw it up? Rumor has it that I can mess up a one car funeral without to much effort.
Yes.
_Gir_
Sajin
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Sajin
Updated the op with a link to the fixed vbioses. Glad this issue is finally fixed.
So is this the solution we've been looking for? If so do we just run the exe file?
Yes.
Is this "the" EVGA fix? Or is this "a" fix?
I'd say evga fix since it's coming from Vince.
In his original post on the kingpin web site he posted he just stumbled across these bios's. 
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 20:24:21
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lo, he "stumbled across" the way to fix it in his lab and some how a bios appeared
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 20:51:18
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I will have to keep tabs on this now!
4.6 Ghz 4790k - Z97I Plus - 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid - 16 GB HyperX Savage 2133 DDR3 - Crucial MX500 1 TB - Seasonic SS 660XP Platinum
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 20:51:54
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lo, he "stumbled across" the way to fix it in his lab and some how a bios appeared
Probably found it under desk
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 22:59:06
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Thanks evga, so much for it not being an issue.... Turns out we were not crazy after all
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/05 23:55:14
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Thanks evga, so much for it not being an issue.... Turns out we were not crazy after all
OMG, finally. Been off the forums a while and today I got a notification that Sajin posted. Nice to see it finally solved, although they should post it publicly so everyone knows. Great job to everyone who contributed!
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Re: 1080 TI FTW3 watercooled Slave BIOS doesn't go over 117%
2018/03/06 07:48:33
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So I just received a my brand new 1080 Ti FTW3 this morning and had to head in to work.  So sadly I haven't hooked it up yet, but I checked the BIOS switch on the card because I've heard some people finding this switch broken on arrival. Interestingly mine is labelled "Normal" and "OC", and not "Master/Slave". Side note: I did see many Youtuber's requesting this like JayzTwoCents so either EVGA is listening or it's blind luck.. but I digress. I came across this thread today after wanting to learn more about the "Master/Slave" BIOS's and then all kinds of shock and horror struck me reading this thread has been going on for so many months! As a first time EVGA owner I've been wondering all day if I made the right decision to get this particular card, considering it's price tag. I'll do some testing when I'm finally off work and see if my cards behavior is the same and report back. While it's nice to see the community rally behind this issue, and even go so far as to find a solution.. I'd expect EVGA to at least keep everyone apprised of progress developments, and possible fixes. Last thing.. as a newcomer to the EVGA brand, I have some concerns and doubts already. I moved to EVGA from MSI because I heard the customer support was excellent, I hope that move wasn't in error.
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