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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/05 19:13:32 (permalink)
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what in the heck does DT stand for please tell me
 




I asked the same thing a little higher up and the answer was downturned.

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/05 19:56:40 (permalink)
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what in the heck does DT stand for please tell me
 


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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/05 20:28:38 (permalink)
 
D-Tuned or Down Tuned.

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/05 21:33:11 (permalink)
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what in the heck does DT stand for please tell me
 


Within 10 posts of yours, that had been answered.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/06 02:17:26 (permalink)
It still boggles my mind that anyone would buy a graphics card that costs over $600 and for it to have "Down Tuned" in its description. I wonder what marketing genius thought of this? Remember the day when we would buy graphics cards and on the boxes there would be like aliens or beasts or some insane graphic on them? The card would be named something crazy too like Dominator or something? And now again I say it's bad enough to buy a non overclocked card but for it to be named after its deficiency is just insane!  Personally if I pay over $600 for something it's not going to have a description that it's been scaled back somehow!  Please someone tell me am I missing something here? Am I the only one that's thinking this way? Does anyone else see where I'm coming from?
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/06 03:54:15 (permalink)
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It still boggles my mind that anyone would buy a graphics card that costs over $600 and for it to have "Down Tuned" in its description. I wonder what marketing genius thought of this? Remember the day when we would buy graphics cards and on the boxes there would be like aliens or beasts or some insane graphic on them? The card would be named something crazy too like Dominator or something? And now again I say it's bad enough to buy a non overclocked card but for it to be named after its deficiency is just insane!  Personally if I pay over $600 for something it's not going to have a description that it's been scaled back somehow!  Please someone tell me am I missing something here? Am I the only one that's thinking this way? Does anyone else see where I'm coming from?




I bought my 1070 FTW DT without fully grasping the "DT" until after I had used mine for a bit.

Glad it worked out that way, I might have missed out on an awesome card.



It's a combination of voltage required/temperature generated, with the voltage and fans cranked my card easily exceeds that and overclocks better than many straight FTW cards I have seen.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/06 09:44:18 (permalink)
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It still boggles my mind that anyone would buy a graphics card that costs over $600 and for it to have "Down Tuned" in its description. I wonder what marketing genius thought of this? Remember the day when we would buy graphics cards and on the boxes there would be like aliens or beasts or some insane graphic on them? The card would be named something crazy too like Dominator or something? And now again I say it's bad enough to buy a non overclocked card but for it to be named after its deficiency is just insane!  Personally if I pay over $600 for something it's not going to have a description that it's been scaled back somehow!  Please someone tell me am I missing something here? Am I the only one that's thinking this way? Does anyone else see where I'm coming from?




I bought my 1070 FTW DT without fully grasping the "DT" until after I had used mine for a bit.

Glad it worked out that way, I might have missed out on an awesome card.



It's a combination of voltage required/temperature generated, with the voltage and fans cranked my card easily exceeds that and overclocks better than many straight FTW cards I have seen.


In that case it should have been name "EVGA FTW WAS"   WAS:  What a Surprise! hahah!  
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/08 03:12:32 (permalink)
Well this is confusing, and I understand why EVGA did this, but as a first time customer, EVGA is appearing to be more and more like MSI every day. 

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/08 20:31:52 (permalink)
I have a couple 1070 FTW DT cards at home. I'll report back on Monday it's boost clocks, see what they go to. Working the next few nights and hoping to get my HB bridge on Monday (200Hz Acer Z35). I will of course do some overclocking of my own. Also if anybody has any stress tests they would like to see done, I'll look into it.

I apologize if somone has done this already and reported their findings, only read the first 4-5 pages and skipped to here. Not going to read 16 pages of pointless bickering.

I knew exactly what I was buying, but didn't care. I'm coming from two reference GTX680's in SLI.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/23 07:26:07 (permalink)
So I got here from Google because I was shopping, saw the DT, and hadn't heard of it before. Amazon has the DT priced higher than the FTW, and I almost bought the downturned card because of price, thinking it must be a new bin above FTW.
 
I like the idea of a ritzed-out card with the top end PCB, more power pins, etc, but reliable stock clocks. I don't think "DT" conveys that in any way.
 
Great product, garbage marketing.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/26 11:01:21 (permalink)
Here's a Non DT for all you doubter's. I have done nothing to the clocks - this is out of the box and no fiddling. The DT isn't set up to do this (See Pic) at Stock complaining about a name is ridiculous.  Every  manufacturer is doing something similar - EVGA has part numbers ( P/N: 08G-P4-6286-KR/P/N: 08G-P4-6284-KR) and show their differences .  This whole thing reminds me of the complaints about what KR vs AR is and what it stands for in the P/N . Research what your purchasing and know what your getting. Taking a chance to save 5%... when your spending over $600  on anything is just (FILL IN THE BLANK). I was more disappointed that you couldn't back order a product from any vendor so they are supporting the Frenzy that they all know it would create. yet I still managed to get this for $679.99 thru NE ... this card clocks to the demand to what your running so your not having to mess with clocks and actually spend no time checking your card clock. Just don't give in to the supply and  demand rip off's Go to   this actually works - get the stuff you want at the right price ! I know it sounds like an ad but I share things that work for me .    
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/26 11:04:29 (permalink)
Bah  EVGA  blocking my link "  nowinstock...net"   look it up it works  
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/09/26 11:10:43 (permalink)
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Here's a Non DT for all you doubter's. I have done nothing to the clocks - this is out of the box and no fiddling. The DT isn't set up to do this (See Pic) at Stock complaining about a name is ridiculous.


There are DT cards doing the exact same clocks at stock, and many DT cards overclocking far further than this.

What were you using to out a load on the card? 45c at 50% fan (approximate fan speed) is really low, so it makes it seem like there is no load on the card. Run Firestrike Extreme for 10 minutes and then grab the temps. . Use GPU-Z sensor tab to track clocks and temps, so that you don't have to close the benchmark to see them.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/06 00:02:20 (permalink)
I have a 08G-P4-6284-KR, all programs report it as having a base clock of 1607 and a boost clock of 1733. When the GPU is under load, all programs report its clock speed to be 1860.
If i try to overclock it even by 50mhz 3dmark gives the error "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG: ID3D11DeviceContext::FinishCommandList:"
 
Is my gpu reporting the wrong base and boost clocks? Does it think that it is a normal FTW card?
 
Thanks in advance.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/12 00:41:07 (permalink)
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Here's a Non DT for all you doubter's. I have done nothing to the clocks - this is out of the box and no fiddling. The DT isn't set up to do this (See Pic) at Stock complaining about a name is ridiculous.


There are DT cards doing the exact same clocks at stock, and many DT cards overclocking far further than this.

What were you using to out a load on the card? 45c at 50% fan (approximate fan speed) is really low, so it makes it seem like there is no load on the card. Run Firestrike Extreme for 10 minutes and then grab the temps. . Use GPU-Z sensor tab to track clocks and temps, so that you don't have to close the benchmark to see them.

Not out of the box and not without extra fiddling...  I'm not going to get into ridiculous contest  over (temps - benchmarking) my non DT works as advertised and thought I'd share it -  I don't have to close anything during benches to get a screen shot  ... Just like Daxzor is sharing their experience on a DT-  I shared mine on a Non DT. do with it as you will. 
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/14 14:24:21 (permalink)
To everyone making car analogies: You guys do realize that Car Manufacturers usually offer different engines, packages etc. for the same car model, right? 
 
 
I'm not saying there isn't a legitimate gripe here, just the fact that car analogies don't really support your cause. Not in the sense that you all are using it at least. 
 
If anything I'd say EVGA is doing exactly what the car manufacturers do. 
 
 
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/14 14:32:31 (permalink)
Plus it's super simple you guys: 
'Real" FTW -- EVGA overclocked it, put in the work on these cards to ensure stability and Warrant it so they're charging a bit more for it. 
'Fake" FTW -- EVGA did not overclock it and left it up to the user to fiddle around with. So Enthusiasts who really know what they're doing can tinker with it the way they like. 
 
You have a choice and choice is never a bad thing. 
 
And above all else they're a business and they are incentivized by profits. So in the end it's up to the consumer to make informed decisions on their purchases based on their needs. 
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/22 00:56:12 (permalink)
I was looking for a standard/base clocked version and found this FTW DT version.
This is definitely what i'm looking for.
Thanks EVGA!




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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/22 03:37:24 (permalink)
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Plus it's super simple you guys: 
'Real" FTW -- EVGA overclocked it, put in the work on these cards to ensure stability and Warrant it so they're charging a bit more for it. 
'Fake" FTW -- EVGA did not overclock it and left it up to the user to fiddle around with. So Enthusiasts who really know what they're doing can tinker with it the way they like. 
 
You have a choice and choice is never a bad thing. 
 
And above all else they're a business and they are incentivized by profits. So in the end it's up to the consumer to make informed decisions on their purchases based on their needs. 





I would like to add one thing to that,  the "fake" or DT cards were in fact OCed, and failed EVGA's stability tests at the higher clocks, but passed as reference clocks. they are not, as it might seem, untested cards.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/22 04:16:24 (permalink)
The important thing here is 'choice'. As a consumer you can choose what card you wish to buy.

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 05:49:03 (permalink)
Has anyone tried to overclock the DT version? Eventhough you won't achieve the same results as a non DT?

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 05:58:40 (permalink)
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Has anyone tried to overclock the DT version? Eventhough you won't achieve the same results as a non DT?




Ofcourse. I've read this post in which a guy said his DT actually clocked higher than is regular FTW. Can't recall what post it was exactly. It ran somewhere around 2100mhz. 
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 06:37:55 (permalink)
Madness...
I been tweaking abit in EVGA Precision, and I am currently running 2012mhz gpu clock, 5500mhz memory clock, voltage is 1043 and the gpu temp is around 70-75 celsius.
I am new to overclocking GPU's, but is this a good result considering its a DT? And what is a safe voltage for the GPU?

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 06:51:44 (permalink)
Hell yeah, thats a very fine result fro a DT! 
 
I personally am running around 2050mhz stable in games, but that is with the card under water (MSI gtx1080). Memory is at 5400mhz. I haven't really won nor lost the sillicon lottery, it's just (a bit below) average. But that's under water.
 
Regarding the fact yours is running on air... That's certainly not bad at all. 
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 06:52:55 (permalink)
LOL at your 1080 and it's slow core clocks, my 1070FTW DT laughs


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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 06:58:56 (permalink)
Ehm, good sir, that is at a GPU temperature of 34 degrees. As you might know, Pascal had turbo boost 3.0 and is very dependant on the core temperature. I bet you can't maintain clocks above 2100mhz in-game.
 
On a side-note, I see your 1080 runs slower than mine and that's at 45 degrees as well. We're talking in-game here, get real. When cold, my 1080 boosts over 2.1Ghz as well
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 07:37:52 (permalink)
I could probably run mine at 2100mhz, but I'm new to this so I'm not quite ready to push it to its limit.
If I run it at 120% Power target, will it reduce the lifespan of the GPU?

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 07:45:21 (permalink)
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Ehm, good sir, that is at a GPU temperature of 34 degrees. As you might know, Pascal had turbo boost 3.0 and is very dependant on the core temperature. I bet you can't maintain clocks above 2100mhz in-game.
 
On a side-note, I see your 1080 runs slower than mine and that's at 45 degrees as well. We're talking in-game here, get real. When cold, my 1080 boosts over 2.1Ghz as well




It's water cooled, it has not been over 43c since I tossed an EK block on it.
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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/10/27 08:56:10 (permalink)
So the card does not run on 2000mhz for me. Tried it in Battlefield 1, FPS wasn't stable, and after 30 minutes, it started smelling like something was frying :D
So maybe it need the hybrid kit to run it that high. 
I returned it to normal, but changed it to run at the default FTW clock (1721mhz) and mem clock at 5500. Seems fine now.

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Re: 1080 FTW DT 2016/11/04 16:07:12 (permalink)
My dt run stable at 2076/2063mhz +220/120% in all games i tested and futuremark. (for some reason it starts at 2076 then settle in at 2063mhz)
Was thinking about returning it with the memory cooling problems, but decided i liked it so i just ordered the free thermal pads. 


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