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I’m new and my post is asking for suggestions. Back in 2013 I used a GeForce 500 series EVGA card for my first PC build. My grandson plays Steam games and has not had problems running any games so far. He is asking me to build him a PC and I would like to use EVGA similar to my GeForce but newer version. Maybe something under $500. Any advise will be appreciated and thank you. Tony G.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/02 20:38:45
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If you go to the B-Stock page, there's some decently priced cards there, and they come with 1 year warranty direct from EVGA. If you scroll way down near the bottom of that page, I see a GTX 1080 SC Gaming card for $399.99 (part number P/N: 08G-P4-6183-RX), even better a 1080 FTW and a 1080 SC2 there for $449.99.. better still a few 1080TI cards for just over $600. The 1080 cards are great cards able to handle pretty much anything out there today quite well, and certainly a significant step up from the 500 series. The latest 2080 series have become very expensive at well over $1,000 new. Also consider upgrading the CPU - I don't know what you have now, but if it's too slow it may bottleneck with the newer graphics card. I'd avoid buying off EBay, that place is full of scammers, which I why I recommend the EVGA.com B-stock page so at least you have some warranty with it.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/03 06:01:01
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If your budget for the video card is $500, I would suggest checking out a RTX 2070 or RTX 2060 super. Nereus
If you go to the B-Stock page, there's some decently priced cards there, and they come with 1 year warranty direct from EVGA. If you scroll way down near the bottom of that page, I see a GTX 1080 SC Gaming card for $399.99 (part number P/N: 08G-P4-6183-RX), even better a 1080 FTW and a 1080 SC2 there for $449.99.. better still a few 1080TI cards for just over $600. The 1080 cards are great cards able to handle pretty much anything out there today quite well, and certainly a significant step up from the 500 series. The latest 2080 series have become very expensive at well over $1,000 new. Also consider upgrading the CPU - I don't know what you have now, but if it's too slow it may bottleneck with the newer graphics card. I'd avoid buying off EBay, that place is full of scammers, which I why I recommend the EVGA.com B-stock page so at least you have some warranty with it.
eBay does have it's fair share of people just trying to toss their problems onto others. However, this isn't really an issue since the eBay money back guarantee overrides anything the seller claims about returns. Personally, I have been buying used video cards off eBay for quite some time.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/03 11:56:41
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Agreed with a 2060 Super or 2070 choice.......
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/03 13:50:42
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2060 Super is going to be your sweet spot of price to performance on a budget.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/03 15:11:14
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It's close.. 1080 Ti beats the 2070 Super [ link] 2060 Super, 2070 vanilla, and 1080 vanilla are very close... The 20XX cards are going to give you ray tracing (new tech), although there's not many games that use it yet. That 2070 XC Gaming that Vlada011 mentioned above is pretty good for $500, but it's out of stock. If you use someone's Associate Code (like the one in my signature) you get 5% off btw.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/03 17:41:23
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It's close..
1080 Ti beats the 2070 Super [link]
2060 Super, 2070 vanilla, and 1080 vanilla are very close...
The 20XX cards are going to give you ray tracing (new tech), although there's not many games that use it yet.
That 2070 XC Gaming that Vlada011 mentioned above is pretty good for $500, but it's out of stock.
If you use someone's Associate Code (like the one in my signature) you get 5% off btw.
The GTX 1080Ti is a great card but still cost too much for used. It's also getting left behind as they keep updating the drivers on the RTX 2000 series stuff. The RX 5700 isn't too bad at it's price point either: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_rx_5700_rog_strix_review,13.html If you do go AMD, make sure to get a nice aftermarket version like the Sapphire Pulse or Asus Strix... Just don't buy the reference model with the blower fan. They keep the fan speed low to keep the noise down, but it's at the cost of a higher GPU temperature.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/03 21:39:43
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/04 01:55:57
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GTX1080Ti is off course better then any RTX2070 but he need to find good card with enough warranty.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/04 07:19:47
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Thank you for info on systems configuration. 500 figure would be for graphic card only.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
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What Resolution is the Monitor your going to use ? What type of connections (cables) does the monitor support ? What MB & CPU ? What case are you using ? - getting the heat out of the case is important Buy On EVGA.com & Save 5% on GPU Purchase --- when you Use Anyone's Associate Code 
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/04 17:48:49
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Re: Monitor- will have to go with whichever card I decide on. I understand monitors are really high def now.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/04 18:14:15
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I looked at B-Stock cards and was wondering if any manuals/specs are included.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/04 19:03:04
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Re: Monitor- will have to go with whichever card I decide on. I understand monitors are really high def now.
Wanted to Know the monitor resolution, it would help make - the best recommendation for a GPU Will it be used to game @ ? @ 1080 --- 1660 Ti would work fine @ 1440 --- 2060 Super
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/04 19:08:50
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I looked at B-Stock cards and was wondering if any manuals/specs are included.
Bare Card - no case badges, posters or other items Graphics Card: No Accessories B-Stock Products are units which may have small scratches, small dents, or noticeable use. B-Stock products are Factory Recertified to meet the performance and reliability of a new product of the same model. B-Stock products do not come with any optional accessories and only include the accessories required to use the product as listed below. All B-Stock products include a 1 Year Limited Warranty. Warranty Terms You can Look on EVGA.com or do a Web search to read Specs
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/06 19:40:56
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Yes, mostly games
Hey all. Thanks to you all for help on system build. Here’s what I’d like to start with.
CPU: Intel Core i5 9400F
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Case - Corsair CC-9011075-WW
2 8GB RAM modules - any brand
EVGA motherboard - - - any that’s compatible with Intel
EVGA power supply - - - Don’t know how much power needed
HDD —
As for SSD I don’t know beans about this except that it’s for storage. If my build needs it
Please explain
I’ll need CPU cooler but don’t know what will work with above -
Hope I’ve included everything.
I can budget at least 1,500. Mouse, keyboard, monitor will be separate purchase.
Grandson Ben and I will try to configure this pc together. Hope we don’t run into any problems
Thanks again.
Tony & Ben
Spring, Tx
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/06 20:54:54
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For EVGA motherboard that will mean their Z390 series to go with that CPU. Memory I would go with GSkill Trident Z series. As fast as you can afford in the budget in the DDR4-3200 to 3600 range. SSD is a non mechanical HDD. It uses flash memory like a USB stick or SD card but MUCH faster. I'd recommend at least a 250-500GB for Windows then you can always use a 7200 RPM HDD for more storage etc. Western Digital black series is always good for that.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/07 04:54:03
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BuddyBug
Yes, mostly games
Hey all. Thanks to you all for help on system build. Here’s what I’d like to start with.
CPU: Intel Core i5 9400F
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Case - Corsair CC-9011075-WW
2 8GB RAM modules - any brand
EVGA motherboard - - - any that’s compatible with Intel
EVGA power supply - - - Don’t know how much power needed
HDD —
As for SSD I don’t know beans about this except that it’s for storage. If my build needs it
Please explain
I’ll need CPU cooler but don’t know what will work with above -
Hope I’ve included everything.
I can budget at least 1,500. Mouse, keyboard, monitor will be separate purchase.
Grandson Ben and I will try to configure this pc together. Hope we don’t run into any problems
Thanks again.
Tony & Ben
Spring, Tx
I would recommend moving to something newer than a GTX 1080 Ti unless you have all ready purchased it... Here is an idea of where it performs compared to newer cards: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_2070_super_gaming_x_review,10.html
As mentioned before, the RTX cards keep getting performance increases on each new driver release. With a $1500 budget, i'd build something like this: Motherboard: Processor: Intel i7 9700KF$319 This processor has a boost clock of 4.9GHz which is why it's one of the best gaming processors out right now. Anything lower, I highly recommend looking towards AMD Ryzen... Something like the R5 3600X. CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC$59 You can go with a cheaper option, but you really can't get better fans than the ones on this unit. They are RGB, go up to 2400RPM and they use magnetic levitation bearings. If you go cheap, get something like a Hyper 212. Motherboard: EVGA Z390 FTW$229 RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 3600MHz$109 Video Card: Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super
$500 SSD: HP EX 950$139 A few things to know about SSD's: - They are a lot faster than platter drives, transfer rates on a platter drive top out around 200MB/s while something like the SSD I recommended transfers at 3500MB/s.
- This means quicker load times into games and programs, even things like browsing the internet will be vastly different.
- SSD's have no moving parts, so you don't hear the click clacking from your case.
- SSD's have a limited amount of times they can write data, when selecting a SSD, make sure to look for their TBW (Tereabyte Write) ratings. Like the one I have recommended can write up to 650TBW which is pretty decent for that price range. Just be careful if you want to go cheaper, you usually take a big hit on the TBW ratings.
PSU: EVGA 750G+$109 You really don't even need this much power. The review posted above only recommends a 550w PSU as the lowest if you have a RTX 2070 Super. This review of the GTX 1080 Ti calls for 650w or higher. Either way, this will be enough and give you headroom to ensure the PSU will last you 10+ years. Pretty close to $1500 without the price of the case.
post edited by RainStryke - 2019/09/07 04:57:51
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/07 07:16:28
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Thank you, all that info helps much.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/07 07:26:22
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Thank you Rainstryke. Have not purchased any components yet. I like your recommendations. It’s been 6 years since my last build and that old pc is still humming. I also forgot to mention if extra fans would be needed. Case probably comes with a few.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/07 07:51:26
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I'll be selling some gear from my previous build soon, although you probably want new items. i7-8700k, ASUS ROG Maximum XI Hero (Z370), probably a 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD, and if you live in NYC I have a case you can have for free if you can pick it up - Corsair Carbide Air 540. I also have an EVGA CLC 280 CPU cooler brand new I'll be selling cheap.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/08 15:55:20
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I feel pretty confident with your recommendations. Will that Corsair case handle the components?
I prefer it because I don’t care for lights all over the PC like someone said — a disco show.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/08 19:36:26
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BuddyBug
I feel pretty confident with your recommendations. Will that Corsair case handle the components?
I prefer it because I don’t care for lights all over the PC like someone said — a disco show.
Interesting... Yeah, I used to hate the LED's but they have grown on me. They don't really provide any functionality to your build though, it's all aesthetics.  If you don't care about LED"s and stuff, then you can save some money on the RAM and get this Corsair RAM instead: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236538
If functionality is your focus, then i'd also suggest this Noctua CPU cooler: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835608040?Description=noctua&cm_re=noctua-_-35-608-040-_-Product A lot of fan manufactures have started to mimic them, but they are the first to come up with the technology to change the tone of the fan noise with the design on the fins to make the quietest fans on the market and i'm pretty sure they are still the best.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/08 20:10:36
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If functionality is your focus, then i'd also suggest this Noctua CPU cooler:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16835608040?Description=noctua&cm_re=noctua-_-35-608-040-_-Product
A lot of fan manufactures have started to mimic them, but they are the first to come up with the technology to change the tone of the fan noise with the design on the fins to make the quietest fans on the market and i'm pretty sure they are still the best.
Glad Noctua have finally started making fans that are not those ugly shades of brown.. I mean yes they certainly are good fans, and the ugly color made them instantly recognizable so it became a kind of badge of quality, but ughh.. As an alternative, I strongly recommend BeQuiet fans. German engineered so relatively expensive, but the quietest and best quality fans I've used to date, and certainly best noise/performance ratio I've ever used as both case and radiator fans (different models of course), and I've used a ton of different fans over the years, including Noctua (albeit some years back). I'd recommend AiO (all in one) water cooled CPU over air cooled any day though, and the price is pretty close too - the Noctua cooler you recommended is $65, you can get an EVGA CLC240 for $85 right now, or an EVGA CLC120 for just $45 right now. I have a CLC120 running on my wife's rig on an i7-7700k CPU, keeps the CPU nice and cool no worries.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/08 21:36:13
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/12 14:00:11
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On that GSkill storage would I install windows into that? If I’m also installing HDD would I not connect that until windows installed? Flyinion, I have brand new cd OEM system builder pack windows pro 7 that I never used - Think it would be okay to use rather than buying windows 10? Thank.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/12 14:31:16
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On that GSkill storage would I install windows into that? If I’m also installing HDD would I not connect that until windows installed? Flyinion, I have brand new cd OEM system builder pack windows pro 7 that I never used - Think it would be okay to use rather than buying windows 10? Thank.
On a new system with motherboard and CPU from the last couple of years, definitely not. You might be able to get it to install, but good luck finding drivers, and you'll get no real support from the motherboard mfr. either. As far as the installation and whether to leave drives unplugged, you can definitely do that. If you don't, you'll need to tell windows explicitly where to install. I made the mistake of just telling windows to use my faster SSD but I didn't create any partitions/etc. on it so when I loaded into windows I found out it had indeed put Windows on that SSD but it had put the small 500MB etc. recovery partitions that are part of a UEFI mode install onto my other SSD. I ended up wiping it out and reinstalling again and got everything where I wanted it. Thankfully a fresh install of Win10 on an SSD only takes about 10-15 minutes though vs the old days of like an hour or more. One thing I'm confused about is you mention GSkill storage? I didn't realize it until now but I guess they actually do make SSD's, are you looking at one of those? I know I personally mentioned using GSkill RAM. In my personal system I have Windows and a few things installed on this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07M7Q21N7Everything else goes on this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0786QNSBD though I was originally going to use this instead https://www.amazon.com/Black-4TB-Performance-Hard-Drive/dp/B0792G331G until I realized mechanical drives were very noisy in my new case and I decided to splurge and go all SSD instead. That may change though as I might be getting a new case and HDD's might be quieter in it. I'd still like to get a couple high TB capacity spinners to host ripped and encoded blu-rays from my collection since they're a lot cheaper per TB than an SSD.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/13 08:23:50
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Sorry flyinion I meant using m.2 storage for windows install.
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Re: New graphics card for new pc build
2019/09/13 08:48:45
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One thing you can do is also see what happens on a midweek madness deal on the EVGA site. I got my 2070 XC Ultra that way and yeah the warranty is only one year but I saved enough to make it worth going used. My 850W G3 PSU is also from a Midweek madness but I figured if they are going to offer a 10 year warranty and it's working out of the box and a year after I think it will hum along for a long time.
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