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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:34 PM (permalink)
They should.
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Thursday, December 17, 2020 6:55 PM (permalink)
Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:05 PM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference

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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:09 PM (permalink)
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So I want to be an optimist and assume that EVGA will release a special bios update for the XC3 ultra hybrids.  Right guys?  RIGHT?!?  
 
 


Probably not, every card with 2x 8-pin seems to all foll the same rules, they don't go above 370-375W and this might have been baked into the reference design itself.
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:28 PM (permalink)
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So I want to be an optimist and assume that EVGA will release a special bios update for the XC3 ultra hybrids.  Right guys?  RIGHT?!?  
 
 


Probably not, every card with 2x 8-pin seems to all foll the same rules, they don't go above 370-375W and this might have been baked into the reference design itself.



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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:49 PM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference


I think there might possibly be a difference in the XC3 Ultra Hybrid Bios. I was watching this video on youtube titled "Unboxing Evga XC3 3080 Ultra hybrid" (I cant post links yet due to not having enough posts) He shows gameplay at the end and his clocks are sustained at 2000+ which I cant achieve at all even with my XC3 Ultra with a waterblock and mine peaks at 47 C underload
post edited by huypho101! - Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:52 PM
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Friday, December 18, 2020 0:22 PM (permalink)
Use the KFA2-390W bios its the best for 2 plug cards.
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Friday, December 18, 2020 12:51 AM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference


I think there might possibly be a difference in the XC3 Ultra Hybrid Bios. I was watching this video on youtube titled "Unboxing Evga XC3 3080 Ultra hybrid" (I cant post links yet due to not having enough posts) He shows gameplay at the end and his clocks are sustained at 2000+ which I cant achieve at all even with my XC3 Ultra with a waterblock and mine peaks at 47 C underload


 
That's my video :-D  You should see my recent one with cyberpunk.  https://www.youtube.com/w...amp;ab_channel=fugly16

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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Friday, December 18, 2020 4:33 PM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference


I think there might possibly be a difference in the XC3 Ultra Hybrid Bios. I was watching this video on youtube titled "Unboxing Evga XC3 3080 Ultra hybrid" (I cant post links yet due to not having enough posts) He shows gameplay at the end and his clocks are sustained at 2000+ which I cant achieve at all even with my XC3 Ultra with a waterblock and mine peaks at 47 C underload


 
That's my video :-D  You should see my recent one with cyberpunk.  


Tis I' Langyman20 on youtube who asked for your bios version in the comments lol
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Friday, December 18, 2020 10:25 PM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference


I think there might possibly be a difference in the XC3 Ultra Hybrid Bios. I was watching this video on youtube titled "Unboxing Evga XC3 3080 Ultra hybrid" (I cant post links yet due to not having enough posts) He shows gameplay at the end and his clocks are sustained at 2000+ which I cant achieve at all even with my XC3 Ultra with a waterblock and mine peaks at 47 C underload


 
That's my video :-D  You should see my recent one with cyberpunk.  https://www.youtube.com/w...amp;ab_channel=fugly16


Why your gpu usage was arnd 70%
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Friday, December 18, 2020 10:32 PM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference


I think there might possibly be a difference in the XC3 Ultra Hybrid Bios. I was watching this video on youtube titled "Unboxing Evga XC3 3080 Ultra hybrid" (I cant post links yet due to not having enough posts) He shows gameplay at the end and his clocks are sustained at 2000+ which I cant achieve at all even with my XC3 Ultra with a waterblock and mine peaks at 47 C underload


 
That's my video :-D  You should see my recent one with cyberpunk.  https://www.youtube.com/w...amp;ab_channel=fugly16




You can easily have GPU-Z read your bios and take a screenshot for us here to see it. This is what we have on GPU-Z
 
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/227530/227530
 
GPU Device Id: 0x10DE 0x2206
Version: 94.02.26.88.92
PG132 SKU 30 VGA BIOS
Copyright (C) 1996-2020 NVIDIA Corp.
GPU Board
Connectors
1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
Board power limit
Target: 340.0 W
Limit: 366.0 W
Adj. Range: -71%, +8%
Thermal Limits
Rated: 83.0C
Max: 91.0C
Memory Support
GDDR6X, Micron
Boost Clock: 1755 MHz
 
366W + 8% = 395.28W
 
This bios gives you XC3 guys the closes bios to 400Ws.
 
The problem? The fans are split. You will have two fan controllers, one controls the radiator fans and the other controls the single blower fan. 
 
How does that relate to that relate to the 3rd fan will have to be observed. I recommend someone play and synch the fans together and see if all 3 fans spin. If so, you guys have a a 400ish bios!
 
EDIT: Or it's possible the +8% is accounted for and that is 340W + 8% = 366W :( 
 
 
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - Friday, December 18, 2020 10:37 PM
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:45 AM (permalink)
Would love that EVGA bumped up the power limits for XC3 Ultra.
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:26 AM (permalink)
Just depends on the area

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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 4:52 AM (permalink)
Releasing a higher power limit doesn't make sense to me on the xc3 not because it's a bad card, but because it only has two 8 pins instead of 3 like the ultra and that the xc3's heat sink is significantly smaller. I guess you could buy a hybrid kit from evga to oc, but i don't think two 8 pins can draw that much power can they? I mean the pcie offers 75 watts what are the 8 pins 150 watts each? So about 375? 
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:14 AM (permalink)
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Releasing a higher power limit doesn't make sense to me on the xc3 not because it's a bad card, but because it only has two 8 pins instead of 3 like the ultra and that the xc3's heat sink is significantly smaller. I guess you could buy a hybrid kit from evga to oc, but i don't think two 8 pins can draw that much power can they? I mean the pcie offers 75 watts what are the 8 pins 150 watts each? So about 375? 



Other cards (Gigabyte and Galaxy) have 390W limits.
80W from the slot and 155W per 8 pin (so 5W above spec)
The Galaxy card has the same VRM layout and cooler size.
The Gigabyte one has 1 extra phase and a worse cooler.

Then you have the 3090FE (it uses 2 plug 8pin pin adapter)
It pulls 75W from the slot and 162.5W per 8pin plug.

I dont expect they will release a bios tho since they are pritty firm on it.
No more then 150W per 8pin plug. And 66W on the slot as per the ATX PCI-E slot 12v edge connector spec.
The 75W spec people quote is 12V (66w) and 3.3V (9w).
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 7:38 AM (permalink)
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Releasing a higher power limit doesn't make sense to me on the xc3 not because it's a bad card, but because it only has two 8 pins instead of 3 like the ultra and that the xc3's heat sink is significantly smaller. I guess you could buy a hybrid kit from evga to oc, but i don't think two 8 pins can draw that much power can they? I mean the pcie offers 75 watts what are the 8 pins 150 watts each? So about 375? 



Other cards (Gigabyte and Galaxy) have 390W limits.
80W from the slot and 155W per 8 pin (so 5W above spec)
The Galaxy card has the same VRM layout and cooler size.
The Gigabyte one has 1 extra phase and a worse cooler.

Then you have the 3090FE (it uses 2 plug 8pin pin adapter)
It pulls 75W from the slot and 162.5W per 8pin plug.

I dont expect they will release a bios tho since they are pritty firm on it.
No more then 150W per 8pin plug. And 66W on the slot as per the ATX PCI-E slot 12v edge connector spec.
The 75W spec people quote is 12V (66w) and 3.3V (9w).


maybe they have a reason not to allow it to be open. Probably not designed for it considering. 
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:25 AM (permalink)
Out of curiosity, has anyone given the TUF 3080 OC bios a try yet?
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:52 PM (permalink)
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Are there any gains to be made by flashing the XC3 Ultra Hybrid bios onto a well cooled XC3 Ultra (air cooled)?




Can't imagine there is any difference


I think there might possibly be a difference in the XC3 Ultra Hybrid Bios. I was watching this video on youtube titled "Unboxing Evga XC3 3080 Ultra hybrid" (I cant post links yet due to not having enough posts) He shows gameplay at the end and his clocks are sustained at 2000+ which I cant achieve at all even with my XC3 Ultra with a waterblock and mine peaks at 47 C underload


 
That's my video :-D  You should see my recent one with cyberpunk.  




You can easily have GPU-Z read your bios and take a screenshot for us here to see it. This is what we have on GPU-Z
 

 
GPU Device Id: 0x10DE 0x2206
Version: 94.02.26.88.92
PG132 SKU 30 VGA BIOS
Copyright (C) 1996-2020 NVIDIA Corp.
GPU Board
Connectors
1x HDMI
3x DisplayPort
Board power limit
Target: 340.0 W
Limit: 366.0 W
Adj. Range: -71%, +8%
Thermal Limits
Rated: 83.0C
Max: 91.0C
Memory Support
GDDR6X, Micron
Boost Clock: 1755 MHz
 
366W + 8% = 395.28W
 
This bios gives you XC3 guys the closes bios to 400Ws.
 
The problem? The fans are split. You will have two fan controllers, one controls the radiator fans and the other controls the single blower fan. 
 
How does that relate to that relate to the 3rd fan will have to be observed. I recommend someone play and synch the fans together and see if all 3 fans spin. If so, you guys have a a 400ish bios!
 
EDIT: Or it's possible the +8% is accounted for and that is 340W + 8% = 366W :( 
 
 


I don't think thats accurate because my card is power throttles at around 320-330 Watts causing my core clock to drop down even with a waterblock
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Sunday, December 20, 2020 9:15 AM (permalink)
I also have a XC3 that I really wish had a better power limit. Cant get anything above 335w and trust me that’s the high end. I want to get the hybrid kit so would love a better bios
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Sunday, December 20, 2020 5:08 PM (permalink)
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I don't think thats accurate because my card is power throttles at around 320-330 Watts causing my core clock to drop down even with a waterblock

That's exactly the issue here, I don't want an extreme increase, I would just love to be able to use 350-360w, and not throttle at about 320. It makes no sense, and the power slider being pushed to 108% does basically nothing.
 
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:14 PM (permalink)
Bros I fell for the trap and got the XC3 Hybrid from notification, wish I had waited for a 3pin now that this POS is gimped to 330 watts by EVGA. unfortunate really 
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Sunday, January 03, 2021 10:28 PM (permalink)
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Bros I fell for the trap and got the XC3 Hybrid from notification, wish I had waited for a 3pin now that this POS is gimped to 330 watts by EVGA. unfortunate really 


Welcome. EVGA doesn't seem to care here, so...yeah. I don't even understand why, it's not a very hard thing to do.
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Monday, January 04, 2021 2:32 PM (permalink)
I've seen peaks of 485w from my 3080 FTW3 hybrid with the xoc bios (450w).
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Monday, January 04, 2021 5:54 PM (permalink)
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Bros I fell for the trap and got the XC3 Hybrid from notification, wish I had waited for a 3pin now that this POS is gimped to 330 watts by EVGA. unfortunate really 


Welcome. EVGA doesn't seem to care here, so...yeah. I don't even understand why, it's not a very hard thing to do.


Yeah bro I would be happy if they just gave us the 375 watts that the FOUNDERS has and this card is within spec with 2x8pin + PCI slot.
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Monday, January 04, 2021 10:02 PM (permalink)
Question is why did it not come STOCK with the ability to use 375W which is to spec. So currently the card is not even running to spec. We should not need a "new" BIOS, this is stupid. 

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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Tuesday, January 05, 2021 1:57 PM (permalink)
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Bros I fell for the trap and got the XC3 Hybrid from notification, wish I had waited for a 3pin now that this POS is gimped to 330 watts by EVGA. unfortunate really 


Welcome. EVGA doesn't seem to care here, so...yeah. I don't even understand why, it's not a very hard thing to do.


Yeah bro I would be happy if they just gave us the 375 watts that the FOUNDERS has and this card is within spec with 2x8pin + PCI slot.




This very much.  

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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:58 PM (permalink)
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I tried to get in touch with Jacob on Twitter today and he actually confirmed that there's no plan to increase power limit on the XC3 due to cooling and VRM solutions.
It sucks because I have great temps on my 3080 XC3 Ultra but the card just can't sustain 2.0Ghz under heavy load (sometimes not even 1900), and it's all because of the power limit. 320w is extremely restrictive, i feel like even a small bump into the 350-360 could be great for us.
I really hope they'll reconsider, I don't think an extra 40w would set my card on fire.


Yeah I have an xc3 ultra but under a hybrid kit, my temps don't seem to go higher than like 59c now, the card could give me a lot more
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Tuesday, January 05, 2021 4:39 PM (permalink)
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I tried to get in touch with Jacob on Twitter today and he actually confirmed that there's no plan to increase power limit on the XC3 due to cooling and VRM solutions.
It sucks because I have great temps on my 3080 XC3 Ultra but the card just can't sustain 2.0Ghz under heavy load (sometimes not even 1900), and it's all because of the power limit. 320w is extremely restrictive, i feel like even a small bump into the 350-360 could be great for us.
I really hope they'll reconsider, I don't think an extra 40w would set my card on fire.


Yeah I have an xc3 ultra but under a hybrid kit, my temps don't seem to go higher than like 59c now, the card could give me a lot more



So then EVGA is charging more money for a "reference" card that has worse components then then founder's card which is a reference design. This really puts a bad taste in my mouth about EVGA as a company. 
 
I guess we will need to resort to a 3rd party BIOS for that extra headroom, what a shame. 
 
Talk about gimping even their own Hydro/Hybrid cards with this power limit. 
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Tuesday, January 05, 2021 10:43 PM (permalink)
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I tried to get in touch with Jacob on Twitter today and he actually confirmed that there's no plan to increase power limit on the XC3 due to cooling and VRM solutions.
It sucks because I have great temps on my 3080 XC3 Ultra but the card just can't sustain 2.0Ghz under heavy load (sometimes not even 1900), and it's all because of the power limit. 320w is extremely restrictive, i feel like even a small bump into the 350-360 could be great for us.
I really hope they'll reconsider, I don't think an extra 40w would set my card on fire.


Yeah I have an xc3 ultra but under a hybrid kit, my temps don't seem to go higher than like 59c now, the card could give me a lot more



So then EVGA is charging more money for a "reference" card that has worse components then then founder's card which is a reference design. This really puts a bad taste in my mouth about EVGA as a company. 
 
I guess we will need to resort to a 3rd party BIOS for that extra headroom, what a shame. 
 
Talk about gimping even their own Hydro/Hybrid cards with this power limit. 


No it's an xc3 ultra with the hybrid kit added, it's still running the xc3 bios because I heard questionable things from the hybrid bios
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Re: XC3 bios update? Show the same love you gave to FTW3 Friday, January 08, 2021 1:03 AM (permalink)
so... we are not having a bios update? very frustrating.. i will start thinking of returing the card at this point...
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