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[EDIT: See latest post at bottom!] So I managed to kill my previous motherboard in an overclocking adventure... ...well...I mean...not quite. I'd decided my CPU was too hot, so I wanted to remove the HSF and clean the surfaces off and re-apply the thermal paste. However, the Cooler Master HSF I was using was impossible to remove! The HSF was attached via a nut-and-bolt system through the motherboard mounting holes, except the nuts had very smooth sides and no grooves to use a screwdriver with. So I had to use pliers, and twisting, and bending, and... ...well, it was ugly. And bang up the motherboard. Might have still worked, but I was, like, Frack it! Didn't like that system, anyway!  And off we go with a new one!  Check out that cable management, though! Mind-blowingly bad, isn't it? LOL! I have NO IDEA how folks manage to get so much cleaner/tighter cable management on their case interiors. I wonder if they have the same number of hard drives I do? That's easily the most challenging thing to get cable management under control for...I've got 5 hard drives and the optical drive, so...loooootta wires going everywhere! That said, I definitely DO know how to do cable hiding...the outside of the case is quite tied-down, and cables behind the system are all wrapped and such for a set of pretty clean lines, overall.  I just got no idea how you guys manage it all on the *inside* of the system! Less hard drives? Bigger cases? I have no idea! Oh, and I swapped out the Blu-Ray player for something shinier.  Other major changes from the previous system include: Motherboard (obviously): Biostar TP67B+ -> Asus P8Z68-V CPU cooling (again, obviously): Coolermaster Hyper N 520 (air) -> Corsair H70 (water) ...and while I was at it, I figured what the heck, and so... CPU: Intel Core i5 2400 -> Intel Core i7 2600K PSU: Corsair 'Builder' series CX500 -> Corsair 'Enthusiast' series TX750 With this CPU's oomph, motherboard support for it, and new PSU...this system is built for SLI! Don't have that, yet - saving up some eVGA Bucks by Folding away - but Real Soon, Now (tm)!! Until, then...it's pretty impressive, still! Nice card! 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/06 22:47:28
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a lot of us have full ATX cases so we can route the cables behind the mobo tray like so (i've since cleaned it up)  i went from a mid tower case where it was a HUGE mess  to a full HAF932 case which looked better  that is till i upgraded to SLI 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/06 22:50:22
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That case was poorly designed for cable management. Part of your problem. It is why the Antec 300 is not recommended. Also your PSU is not modular, that helps a lot. Zip Ties/Cable Ties of some sort is your best option and try and hide as much as possible.
The CPU Power cable can be run underneath the GPU on the left. I know it is possible. I do it to ALL of my builds. As far as the rest of your cables, well you case is the limiting factor.
Other than that, looks good.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/06 22:52:08
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a lot of us have full ATX cases so we can route the cables behind the mobo tray like so (i've since cleaned it up) Ah, I think I see a key difference - in your full-tower system, the hard drives are mounted 'sideways', while in the mid-tower I have, they are 'front to back', so no matter *how* clean I try to tie the cables down, I'm going to have a pile of wires sticking out their backs and into the main space of the case. With them sideways like that...yeah, you can route them behind the mobo tray and it works way better! I once did have a case that I realize I could have done that on, now - an ancient nForce2 system in a Thermaltake tower...  ...but I think even in that one, I mounted the 'sideways' drives in with the cables 'sticking out' instead of behind the mobo tray! LOL!
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/06 22:59:21
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loveha The CPU Power cable can be run underneath the GPU on the left. I know it is possible. I do it to ALL of my builds. As far as the rest of your cables, well you case is the limiting factor.
I think I *may* have tried that...will have to tinker with that some to see what is possible, but I seem to vaguely recall that the X-Fi was actually the limiting factor. Looking at it more closely, though...hmmm. That just might work. And it would definitely be a big step towards cleaning up the look a bunch, even if the cabling coming off the drives proves impossible to really deal with!
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/06 23:29:33
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Damn that is pretty bad. But I have seen worse. 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/06 23:35:41
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 05:35:03
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As far as the cable management, even alot of the new mid-tower designs are starting to incorprate cable managment features like the full tower cses have been doing for a while now. Also congrats on the upgrade. I'm sure you'll love it.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 09:56:58
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Uh guys, I think the pic listed above has nothing on this.... 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 10:31:00
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^ Looks more like spaghetti than wires 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 11:05:15
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If you don't want another chassis with better cable management then you can take a drill and a dremel and start making your own chassis modded routing holes provided there is enough space behind the right cover to put all the cables.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 11:46:26
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yeah and the reason there is no screw holes on the back of the n520 is because there is a specific adapter you use to get the bolts on and off, or you can use a wrench, either way too late for that
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 17:47:54
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A few pieces of good advice in this thread motivated me to take another whack at the cable management. Indeed, as [link=showprofile.aspx?memid=738685]loveha[/link] noted, the CPU power cable could be run under the video cards. It was a *bit* trickier getting it under the X-Fi, owing to some caps on the motherboard being right in the spot under the card the line would run past...but it did fit. But running many more of the power supply lines right out the back of the case from the buttom, and then running them back in higher up...rather than letting them run directly to the device they are plugged into...also cleaned up a lot of things. Unfortunately, there is only so much that could be done. As noted, the lack of a modular PSU really hurts this effort. I could take out at least 2 of the major chains of adapters coming out of the PSU, if it had been modular, as I don't need them. And the hard drive bays really do mean that the drives leave their junk 'dangling' into the case. Annoying. Some flatter adapters (rather than power and SATA cables that need to be plugged in 'straight' in or at odd right angles) would also help. STILL! I think this is an improvement - no? 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 19:09:06
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Looks much better. I spend more time with Cable management, than I do when assembling the rig.
Then again, my case is HUGE so cable management is super easy.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 20:06:31
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We must have gone to the same cable management school.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/07 20:06:59
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Case size does seem like it would make a huge difference - just being able to rotate the drives 90 degrees (sideways instead of front to back) would make all the difference in the world. Cables would very nearly be entirely all hidden, then!
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 00:13:27
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much improvement! I'll give you a +1 for that effort. 
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 02:49:54
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much improvement!
I'll give you a +1 for that effort.
second that.. +1..!
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 03:17:45
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Much better effort that in the original post that is for sure.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 06:48:37
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Great job!! I'll +1 ya...
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 12:30:28
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thats much better
but I sure you can still do better
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 12:57:58
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voodoo do-er
thats much better
but I sure you can still do better
Looking at it, I do still see something of a rat's nest. Still, I'm really unsure how much more could be done. Note how many drives I've got in there...  This is partially exacerbated by the optical drive taking up the ENTIRE width of the case - it's flat on the back of the case, up there, so you cannot run any wires that go to it (or the case's front panel devices right above it) "behind" (really 'beside') the thing...they have to be in the main space of the case to plug in. Pretty much all the remaining cabling visible is related to the drives or the case's front panel devices (which only barely reach to the motherboard headers as it is) Without buying a set of different (flatter) SATA cables, I'm not really sure what else could be done for it...
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/08 15:59:26
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I do have at least one more idea...
My intent is to SLI the 560 Tis, which, if I leave the X-Fi where it is, I *think* will block the fan for the lower 560.
Now, I've got a '1x' PCI-E slot just above the top 560 (what is now my only 560). If I move the X-Fi up there, than the case's front panel audio cable running to it I could pull tight across the top of the 560, and run it behind the drive bay area, there (letting me run it down the side over the optical drive slot, kinda).
That might work, and would eliminate another cable from view. And I may have to do it, anyway, to make sure that airflow to the (future) lower 560 Ti is not blocked.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/10 03:58:25
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I'll have to say, that's some pretty good cable management despite the Antec 300 case. I've owned one in the past and it was a disaster.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/10 04:39:59
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I do have at least one more idea...
My intent is to SLI the 560 Tis, which, if I leave the X-Fi where it is, I *think* will block the fan for the lower 560.
Now, I've got a '1x' PCI-E slot just above the top 560 (what is now my only 560). If I move the X-Fi up there, than the case's front panel audio cable running to it I could pull tight across the top of the 560, and run it behind the drive bay area, there (letting me run it down the side over the optical drive slot, kinda).
That might work, and would eliminate another cable from view. And I may have to do it, anyway, to make sure that airflow to the (future) lower 560 Ti is not blocked.
You should be fine if you pop another 560 in there, it shouldn't block the fan at all.
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/10 04:49:18
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I got my girlfriend the Corsair 650D....and just gotta say....for a mid tower case...it is the cleanest looking case for cable managment...i have ever seen....almost made me want to steal it and give her my antec 1200...but then i realized it would be way to full :p
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Re:Worst cable management ever? MAYBE! (AKA: Update to my first system posted to Mods Ri
2012/01/10 05:42:30
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Put simply you have fallen into a trap that many others fall into in their early outings into PC building (I did it, most others here probably did too) and that is cheaping out on the case... until you really get into building your first thoughts are "well..a case, it's just a box isnt it? how different can they be? as long as it looks nice..."
If you want a very cheap case from a decent name that isn't too big and has excellent cable management for its size and price, I recommend the NZXT Beta EVO, its all black including the interior, has cable routing holes with space behind the mobo tray, has a bottom mounted power supply fitting, looks pretty cool, all tool less fittings except the expansion slots and costs around $45 US, it even has watercooling holes with grommets in the back lol and is great for airflow as well :)
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